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    How about a spinning back fist in Boxing?

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 1:28 PM ET #1

    What do you think? A spinning back fist in boxing? It my bring back some of the lost viewers who left to MMA.  Don't get me wrong I love boxing the way it is, but something fresh and new will bring back the talk and notice which boxing  deserves.
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    What do you think? A spinning back fist in boxing? It my bring back some of the lost viewers who left to MMA.  Don't get me wrong I love boxing the way it is, but something fresh and new will bring back the talk and notice which boxing  deserves.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 6:25 PM ET #2

    No comments?
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    No comments?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #3

    mma is not even close to boxing ,  if mayweather and pacquiao fight they are going to get 50 million each, the top mma guys get around 3-400,000 per fight, right now it's like comparing rugby to the NFL, not even close, they are 2 different sports, the topic of boxing vs mma should not even come up, when I talk about nebraska football, the guy next to me does not start talking  to me about rugby,  spinning back hand in boxing, that's what muay thai is for. boxing is not loosing any fans to mma,  mma is just getting a lot of teens and young adults to take an interest, if you were a boxing fan before mma went main stream, then your still and boxing fan,  
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    mma is not even close to boxing ,  if mayweather and pacquiao fight they are going to get 50 million each, the top mma guys get around 3-400,000 per fight, right now it's like comparing rugby to the NFL, not even close, they are 2 different sports, the topic of boxing vs mma should not even come up, when I talk about nebraska football, the guy next to me does not start talking  to me about rugby,  spinning back hand in boxing, that's what muay thai is for. boxing is not loosing any fans to mma,  mma is just getting a lot of teens and young adults to take an interest, if you were a boxing fan before mma went main stream, then your still and boxing fan,  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 7:49 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

    mma is not even close to boxing ,  if mayweather and pacquiao fight they are going to get 50 million each, the top mma guys get around 3-400,000 per fight, right now it's like comparing rugby to the NFL, not even close, they are 2 different sports, the topic of boxing vs mma should not even come up, when I talk about nebraska football, the guy next to me does not start talking  to me about rugby,  spinning back hand in boxing, that's what muay thai is for. boxing is not loosing any fans to mma,  mma is just getting a lot of teens and young adults to take an interest, if you were a boxing fan before mma went main stream, then your still and boxing fan,  

    So are you going to answer the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

    mma is not even close to boxing ,  if mayweather and pacquiao fight they are going to get 50 million each, the top mma guys get around 3-400,000 per fight, right now it's like comparing rugby to the NFL, not even close, they are 2 different sports, the topic of boxing vs mma should not even come up, when I talk about nebraska football, the guy next to me does not start talking  to me about rugby,  spinning back hand in boxing, that's what muay thai is for. boxing is not loosing any fans to mma,  mma is just getting a lot of teens and young adults to take an interest, if you were a boxing fan before mma went main stream, then your still and boxing fan,  

    So are you going to answer the question?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #5

    Its illegal to hit with the back portion of the glove thats why there are no responses. its a silly suggestion and is void of all boxing common sense
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    Its illegal to hit with the back portion of the glove thats why there are no responses. its a silly suggestion and is void of all boxing common sense
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 1:08 AM ET #6

    I think a spinning back fist would be great for the sport.  And the crane kick.
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    I think a spinning back fist would be great for the sport.  And the crane kick.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 1:01 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywoodturf:

    No comments?

    Nobody wants to comment because its a stupid question. Boxing never lost anyone to MMA. MMA has all the beer drinking hillbillies that watch Nascar. Don't believe the hype. How many boxers have jumped to MMA to take a 900% pay cut? I've been to a live UFC show and it was so boring I left to hit a bar down the street.

    Danno is funny. Love the sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywoodturf:

    No comments?

    Nobody wants to comment because its a stupid question. Boxing never lost anyone to MMA. MMA has all the beer drinking hillbillies that watch Nascar. Don't believe the hype. How many boxers have jumped to MMA to take a 900% pay cut? I've been to a live UFC show and it was so boring I left to hit a bar down the street.

    Danno is funny. Love the sarcasm.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 5:04 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I think a spinning back fist would be great for the sport.  And the crane kick.
      nicely played danno,    nicely played
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I think a spinning back fist would be great for the sport.  And the crane kick.
      nicely played danno,    nicely played
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 11:00 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Nobody wants to comment because its a stupid question. Boxing never lost anyone to MMA. MMA has all the beer drinking hillbillies that watch Nascar. Don't believe the hype. How many boxers have jumped to MMA to take a 900% pay cut? I've been to a live UFC show and it was so boring I left to hit a bar down the street.
    Nobody wants to comment because its a stupid question, then if you replied that would make you STUPID! lolol

    Danno is funny. Love the sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Nobody wants to comment because its a stupid question. Boxing never lost anyone to MMA. MMA has all the beer drinking hillbillies that watch Nascar. Don't believe the hype. How many boxers have jumped to MMA to take a 900% pay cut? I've been to a live UFC show and it was so boring I left to hit a bar down the street.
    Nobody wants to comment because its a stupid question, then if you replied that would make you STUPID! lolol

    Danno is funny. Love the sarcasm.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 11:03 PM ET #10

    Maybe I am stupid do to being a sparring partner with the # 5 ranked Cruserweight fighter in the world Troy Ross when I was 13 years old. F@@K can he hit hard, not like all your girl comments and this post.  
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    Maybe I am stupid do to being a sparring partner with the # 5 ranked Cruserweight fighter in the world Troy Ross when I was 13 years old. F@@K can he hit hard, not like all your girl comments and this post.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 11:12 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Its illegal to hit with the back portion of the glove thats why there are no responses. its a silly suggestion and is void of all boxing common sense

         No kinding its illegal in boxing, and so is punching in the balls in MMA which was not years ago here is a guy who can except change. Thats the problem with boxing, it has not evolved and you guys are part of that problem, because your smart right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Its illegal to hit with the back portion of the glove thats why there are no responses. its a silly suggestion and is void of all boxing common sense

         No kinding its illegal in boxing, and so is punching in the balls in MMA which was not years ago here is a guy who can except change. Thats the problem with boxing, it has not evolved and you guys are part of that problem, because your smart right?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 1:43 AM ET #12

    I am better than you mentally, spiritually and physically(88-2-68ko's as an amateur, will be a pro in a couple of months), if you are bragging about boxing that happened in ontario, than you should shut the fuck up, I  originally come from ontario too, but the boxing their is bush league, just like you, that's why I moved to montreal, the only place in canada for a real fighter to live. you asked a stupid question in the beginning and now are upset because nobody takes you side, put your tail between your legs and take the loss box, or you could come to champs gym, hard knocks or underdog gym, I rotate between the 3,  all you have to do is ask for thesoulpurpose and then you would see what a real fighter is all about, you bush league box.
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    I am better than you mentally, spiritually and physically(88-2-68ko's as an amateur, will be a pro in a couple of months), if you are bragging about boxing that happened in ontario, than you should shut the fuck up, I  originally come from ontario too, but the boxing their is bush league, just like you, that's why I moved to montreal, the only place in canada for a real fighter to live. you asked a stupid question in the beginning and now are upset because nobody takes you side, put your tail between your legs and take the loss box, or you could come to champs gym, hard knocks or underdog gym, I rotate between the 3,  all you have to do is ask for thesoulpurpose and then you would see what a real fighter is all about, you bush league box.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 2:15 AM ET #13

    now that I think about it troy ross is about 36 or 37 now, you said that you sparred with him when you were 13, so either you are talking about something that happend a very long time ago when he was around that age too, or I call your bluff as I know troy's people and not even ontario's bush league boxing would put a 13 year old in with someone like troy( who is a C class fighter) unless he was just training\teaching you, so either your living in the past and your best moment was sparring with a C class fighter or you are straight up lying,  
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    now that I think about it troy ross is about 36 or 37 now, you said that you sparred with him when you were 13, so either you are talking about something that happend a very long time ago when he was around that age too, or I call your bluff as I know troy's people and not even ontario's bush league boxing would put a 13 year old in with someone like troy( who is a C class fighter) unless he was just training\teaching you, so either your living in the past and your best moment was sparring with a C class fighter or you are straight up lying,  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 1:02 PM ET #14

    Punching in the balls was never legal in MMA and completely changing boxing to allow spinning back fists is retarded
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    Punching in the balls was never legal in MMA and completely changing boxing to allow spinning back fists is retarded
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 1:37 PM ET #15

    Hollywoodturf: Besides many obvious reasons, turning your back and being exposed to being punched in the back of the head would be a top concern if this were to be taken seriously. That's why rabbit punches are considered so serious as they can easily cause cervical damage and lead to serious injury or death. One of boxing's worst tragedy's involved one of boxing's most electric fighters and on his way to being considered among the top of all-time greats was Gerald McClellan. Nigel Benn constantly hit McClellan with rabbit punches and headbutts, McClellan was hospitalized after the fight. When McClellan was discharged to the care of his family, he was completely blind, 80% deaf and could no longer walk unassisted. His condition has improved slightly in the sixteen years since tragedy befell him, but he is still a pale shadow of the man he once was.
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    Hollywoodturf: Besides many obvious reasons, turning your back and being exposed to being punched in the back of the head would be a top concern if this were to be taken seriously. That's why rabbit punches are considered so serious as they can easily cause cervical damage and lead to serious injury or death. One of boxing's worst tragedy's involved one of boxing's most electric fighters and on his way to being considered among the top of all-time greats was Gerald McClellan. Nigel Benn constantly hit McClellan with rabbit punches and headbutts, McClellan was hospitalized after the fight. When McClellan was discharged to the care of his family, he was completely blind, 80% deaf and could no longer walk unassisted. His condition has improved slightly in the sixteen years since tragedy befell him, but he is still a pale shadow of the man he once was.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 3:07 PM ET #16

    BTW- Watch Kickboxing if you want spinning backfists. Also, if you were to add it to boxing, before someone turns around to throw it they'll be punched in the back of neck or head and probably injured permanently.
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    BTW- Watch Kickboxing if you want spinning backfists. Also, if you were to add it to boxing, before someone turns around to throw it they'll be punched in the back of neck or head and probably injured permanently.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 8:53 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Punching in the balls was never legal in MMA and completely changing boxing to allow spinning back fists is retarded

    Incorrect. There was an early UFC fight where the guy did nothing BUT punch in the balls. I believe this might have been somewhere post Royce, pre weight classes. UFC 5-8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Punching in the balls was never legal in MMA and completely changing boxing to allow spinning back fists is retarded

    Incorrect. There was an early UFC fight where the guy did nothing BUT punch in the balls. I believe this might have been somewhere post Royce, pre weight classes. UFC 5-8?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 9:36 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    Hollywoodturf: Besides many obvious reasons, turning your back and being exposed to being punched in the back of the head would be a top concern if this were to be taken seriously. That's why rabbit punches are considered so serious as they can easily cause cervical damage and lead to serious injury or death. One of boxing's worst tragedy's involved one of boxing's most electric fighters and on his way to being considered among the top of all-time greats was Gerald McClellan. Nigel Benn constantly hit McClellan with rabbit punches and headbutts, McClellan was hospitalized after the fight. When McClellan was discharged to the care of his family, he was completely blind, 80% deaf and could no longer walk unassisted. His condition has improved slightly in the sixteen years since tragedy befell him, but he is still a pale shadow of the man he once was.
    I respect gerald as much as any fighter to ever walk between the ropes, not sure if you read the story, but going into the last couple of rounds, he knew something was wrong, he was even talking to his dead dog, who had died a few days before the fight, he mentioned that if something did not change than he would be seeing him sooner rather than later,   the pain that he was feeling expecially going into the last round must of been out of this world, but he still answered the bell, what a fucking warrior, his life was on the line and he knew it yet refused to quit,  win or die trying, alot of fighters say that, he meant it.
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    Hollywoodturf: Besides many obvious reasons, turning your back and being exposed to being punched in the back of the head would be a top concern if this were to be taken seriously. That's why rabbit punches are considered so serious as they can easily cause cervical damage and lead to serious injury or death. One of boxing's worst tragedy's involved one of boxing's most electric fighters and on his way to being considered among the top of all-time greats was Gerald McClellan. Nigel Benn constantly hit McClellan with rabbit punches and headbutts, McClellan was hospitalized after the fight. When McClellan was discharged to the care of his family, he was completely blind, 80% deaf and could no longer walk unassisted. His condition has improved slightly in the sixteen years since tragedy befell him, but he is still a pale shadow of the man he once was.
    I respect gerald as much as any fighter to ever walk between the ropes, not sure if you read the story, but going into the last couple of rounds, he knew something was wrong, he was even talking to his dead dog, who had died a few days before the fight, he mentioned that if something did not change than he would be seeing him sooner rather than later,   the pain that he was feeling expecially going into the last round must of been out of this world, but he still answered the bell, what a fucking warrior, his life was on the line and he knew it yet refused to quit,  win or die trying, alot of fighters say that, he meant it.
     
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    Most fighters that are realistic with average intelligence or just general common sense realize the dangers of boxing short term and more so long term. That's why when people (and some states banned MMA) stated MMA was brutal and more dangerous don't understand the scientifics of body damage. Yes they are both dangerous and MMA is more likely to cause immediate injuries, but the illusion after a twelve round bout and a boxer didn't suffer any facial damage or at any point seemed hurt, is the hidden danger of boxing. Going through twelve rounds of constant punches causes the brain constant jarring and significant damage. The brain damage to boxers is so apparent you wonder how the sport is still legal (that's simple: history, the public demand, politics and money). Take a look at interviews of long term boxers and you can see the slow slurred speech among other symptoms.
    I watched an interview of Meldrick Taylor and how he was struggling because only a few states still allowed him a license. The poor guy couldn't even speak and any legislative body that allows him or anyone in similar condition should be considered a crime of torturing a handicapped person.
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    Most fighters that are realistic with average intelligence or just general common sense realize the dangers of boxing short term and more so long term. That's why when people (and some states banned MMA) stated MMA was brutal and more dangerous don't understand the scientifics of body damage. Yes they are both dangerous and MMA is more likely to cause immediate injuries, but the illusion after a twelve round bout and a boxer didn't suffer any facial damage or at any point seemed hurt, is the hidden danger of boxing. Going through twelve rounds of constant punches causes the brain constant jarring and significant damage. The brain damage to boxers is so apparent you wonder how the sport is still legal (that's simple: history, the public demand, politics and money). Take a look at interviews of long term boxers and you can see the slow slurred speech among other symptoms.
    I watched an interview of Meldrick Taylor and how he was struggling because only a few states still allowed him a license. The poor guy couldn't even speak and any legislative body that allows him or anyone in similar condition should be considered a crime of torturing a handicapped person.
     
     
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