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    Froch/Abraham, Katsidis/Marquez, Undercards

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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 2:39 AM ET #1

    I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. This is going to be an interesting weekend. I'm sure we'll see more than a few surprises, along with several questions being answered.

    Froch, +145, 3.5 units.

    The problem with making a large wager on Abraham is that his style gives away rounds. Unless he lands a big shots in the round, he doesn't do enough to score points. I don't like his level of activity, plain and simple.

    Dirrell damn near shut him out. Abraham got frustrated to the point he took the coward way out. While not as fast or as long, Froch shouldn't have a problem winning rounds if he avoids the big shots.

    This isn't a large wager as I can understand the case being made for Abraham. Bulletproof with power isn't a bad combination to back at a short price. I just feel it isn't the best side in this particular fight.

    Katsidis/Marquez under 9.5, -120, 12 units

    Katsidis comes straight in and lets his hands go. Marquez likes to counter. Remember the first 6 rounds of Diaz/Marquez I? Me too. Same thing here except Katsidis has more pop.

    Either Katsidis makes Marquez look old or he gets hit with dozens of power shots each round. I can't picture this fight sucking - or lasting until the final bell. A "fight won't go the distance" would be the best play. However, I don't see that being available anywhere at this time.

    Litzau, +925, 3.3 units.

    The more I see of Litzau, the more he looks like the type of fighter that will have a great fight nobody expected him to. He is in his prime, he can punch a bit, seems motivated, etc.

    Caballero is 34 years old, moving up in weight, then comes in heavy and has to lose another 1.5 pounds. Does that sound like a fighter that is in peak condition? Didn't think so. Also, I think Litzau punches harder.

    Still looking at a couple things, will add more later.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. This is going to be an interesting weekend. I'm sure we'll see more than a few surprises, along with several questions being answered.

    Froch, +145, 3.5 units.

    The problem with making a large wager on Abraham is that his style gives away rounds. Unless he lands a big shots in the round, he doesn't do enough to score points. I don't like his level of activity, plain and simple.

    Dirrell damn near shut him out. Abraham got frustrated to the point he took the coward way out. While not as fast or as long, Froch shouldn't have a problem winning rounds if he avoids the big shots.

    This isn't a large wager as I can understand the case being made for Abraham. Bulletproof with power isn't a bad combination to back at a short price. I just feel it isn't the best side in this particular fight.

    Katsidis/Marquez under 9.5, -120, 12 units

    Katsidis comes straight in and lets his hands go. Marquez likes to counter. Remember the first 6 rounds of Diaz/Marquez I? Me too. Same thing here except Katsidis has more pop.

    Either Katsidis makes Marquez look old or he gets hit with dozens of power shots each round. I can't picture this fight sucking - or lasting until the final bell. A "fight won't go the distance" would be the best play. However, I don't see that being available anywhere at this time.

    Litzau, +925, 3.3 units.

    The more I see of Litzau, the more he looks like the type of fighter that will have a great fight nobody expected him to. He is in his prime, he can punch a bit, seems motivated, etc.

    Caballero is 34 years old, moving up in weight, then comes in heavy and has to lose another 1.5 pounds. Does that sound like a fighter that is in peak condition? Didn't think so. Also, I think Litzau punches harder.

    Still looking at a couple things, will add more later.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 3:59 AM ET #2

    Litzau is gonna get murdered.
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    Litzau is gonna get murdered.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 8:24 AM ET #3

    Litzau sound bite:

    https://twaud.io/q1TV

    I was big on Caballero taking his head off, until I saw the weigh in.  Caballero looked pretty bad (drawn, dried out).  Litzau sounds awful in that interview though.  I know he's only been KO'd twice, but he's been hit a ton in his career.

     

    Walk, Katsidis/JMM won't go distance is -200 at 5dimes.  They list the props under a different header now.  It's under 'Props' in the fighting section, not 'Boxing' like it usually is.  They started that last week.

     

    Good luck. 

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    Litzau sound bite:

    https://twaud.io/q1TV

    I was big on Caballero taking his head off, until I saw the weigh in.  Caballero looked pretty bad (drawn, dried out).  Litzau sounds awful in that interview though.  I know he's only been KO'd twice, but he's been hit a ton in his career.

     

    Walk, Katsidis/JMM won't go distance is -200 at 5dimes.  They list the props under a different header now.  It's under 'Props' in the fighting section, not 'Boxing' like it usually is.  They started that last week.

     

    Good luck. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:49 AM ET #4

    I am on the opposite Walk for both. As long as I am right on Abraham, I will gladly lose the over on Katsidis v Marquez!
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    I am on the opposite Walk for both. As long as I am right on Abraham, I will gladly lose the over on Katsidis v Marquez!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 11:00 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    I am on the opposite Walk for both. As long as I am right on Abraham, I will gladly lose the over on Katsidis v Marquez!

    Good luck buddy. I don't have a large wager on it, as I can see why you like AA so much. I'm a fan of both fighters and really wouldn't mind seeing AA send Froch into dreamland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    I am on the opposite Walk for both. As long as I am right on Abraham, I will gladly lose the over on Katsidis v Marquez!

    Good luck buddy. I don't have a large wager on it, as I can see why you like AA so much. I'm a fan of both fighters and really wouldn't mind seeing AA send Froch into dreamland.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 6:55 PM ET #6

    Chasing with overs on JMM and Litz.
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    Chasing with overs on JMM and Litz.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:08 PM ET #7

    Now way Litzau is going over, these guys are like rabid dogs in there. Man, this ain't my year.
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    Now way Litzau is going over, these guys are like rabid dogs in there. Man, this ain't my year.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:14 PM ET #8

    You have the 'dog' part right as it pertains to Caballero.  He obviously put this one in the win column before it started.
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    You have the 'dog' part right as it pertains to Caballero.  He obviously put this one in the win column before it started.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #9

    Man, it went over. Needed that.

    Litzau is looking nice right now. Walktheline's pick is looking like a winner if the politics aren't too strong here. 9-1 [commentator said 13-1] underdog? Gonna start calling you ace before the end of the year.
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    Man, it went over. Needed that.

    Litzau is looking nice right now. Walktheline's pick is looking like a winner if the politics aren't too strong here. 9-1 [commentator said 13-1] underdog? Gonna start calling you ace before the end of the year.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:34 PM ET #10

    Walk, I'm pulling for you with these scores, but I really think Litzau shot himself in the foot by not punching more late.  His corner was right.  If he went to the body in the 8th and 9th, he would've stopped him.  Looking for big head shots only, when he should've been throwing and throwing and throwing.
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    Walk, I'm pulling for you with these scores, but I really think Litzau shot himself in the foot by not punching more late.  His corner was right.  If he went to the body in the 8th and 9th, he would've stopped him.  Looking for big head shots only, when he should've been throwing and throwing and throwing.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:36 PM ET #11

    Awesome bet.  Great job. 

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    Awesome bet.  Great job. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:37 PM ET #12

    Amazing fucking call on Litzau I am so upset that my local didn't have a line for the fight. I am going to need to keep an online book for shit like this!
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    Amazing fucking call on Litzau I am so upset that my local didn't have a line for the fight. I am going to need to keep an online book for shit like this!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:38 PM ET #13

    Fight of the year and pick of the year goes to walk. I can't believe a 9-1 underdog hit. Caballero was 17-1F on my end earlier today.
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    Fight of the year and pick of the year goes to walk. I can't believe a 9-1 underdog hit. Caballero was 17-1F on my end earlier today.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 11:44 PM ET #14

    Just got home from the Pitt basketball game. Where is everyone? We have the fight of the year going on, yet crickets?


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    Just got home from the Pitt basketball game. Where is everyone? We have the fight of the year going on, yet crickets?


     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 11:49 PM ET #15

    you wrote the script buddy
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    you wrote the script buddy
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 12:03 AM ET #16

    Post fights interview:

    Walk, did you expect it to go like this?

    First off, I want to thank god because he gave me the strength to click the mouse. You know, it can be hard at times. It was tough to hit the submit button, but I persevered and was able to do it. All things are possible when you believe in the power of the mouse.

    Walk, what do you see in your future after this victory?

    I would like to move up in units. I've paid my dues, and I'm ready to take on anyone. Graham Houston has been ducking me for years and I'm tired of hearing about him. Did you read my post tonight? What about last week? I don't charge the fans, since I am one of them.

    Walk, how drunk are you?

    What? Oh, that's a good question. Excuse me, I have to take a leak.

     
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    Post fights interview:

    Walk, did you expect it to go like this?

    First off, I want to thank god because he gave me the strength to click the mouse. You know, it can be hard at times. It was tough to hit the submit button, but I persevered and was able to do it. All things are possible when you believe in the power of the mouse.

    Walk, what do you see in your future after this victory?

    I would like to move up in units. I've paid my dues, and I'm ready to take on anyone. Graham Houston has been ducking me for years and I'm tired of hearing about him. Did you read my post tonight? What about last week? I don't charge the fans, since I am one of them.

    Walk, how drunk are you?

    What? Oh, that's a good question. Excuse me, I have to take a leak.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 12:06 AM ET #17

    Holy Batman


    You picked Litzau to Win? Can I borrow your crystal ball next fight Way to Go!!
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    Holy Batman


    You picked Litzau to Win? Can I borrow your crystal ball next fight Way to Go!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 12:16 AM ET #18

    Bad night/year for me. I think I'm out till '11. My crystal ball is on teh fritz.
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    Bad night/year for me. I think I'm out till '11. My crystal ball is on teh fritz.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 1:08 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Bad night/year for me. I think I'm out till '11. My crystal ball is on teh fritz.


    I think it has another fight in it for the year. What does it say about Khan vs Maidana? Because I would love confirmation of the outcome. I keep getting "ask me later."
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Bad night/year for me. I think I'm out till '11. My crystal ball is on teh fritz.


    I think it has another fight in it for the year. What does it say about Khan vs Maidana? Because I would love confirmation of the outcome. I keep getting "ask me later."
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 4:14 AM ET #20

    Plus 41 units for the week. Plus 80 units over the past 4 weeks.

    I hate listing "units" bets. However, I feel it is necessary when you have several options/opinions. There really isn't a way to gauge boxing handicappers so I wanted to have some accountability,

     
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    Plus 41 units for the week. Plus 80 units over the past 4 weeks.

    I hate listing "units" bets. However, I feel it is necessary when you have several options/opinions. There really isn't a way to gauge boxing handicappers so I wanted to have some accountability,

     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 3:07 PM ET #21

    walk-very impressive.  Congratulations
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    walk-very impressive.  Congratulations
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