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    Friday Night Fights

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    walktheline
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2010 - 11:55 PM ET #1

    Lemieux is an interesting fighter. He's 21 years old and having no problem packing seats north of the border. He gets the showcase on Friday Night Fights. 22-0 with 21 KO's. Can't miss, exciting fighter with star potential? Not really.

    Lemieux doesn't really have the shocking one punch power his impressive KO ratio would suggest. He doesn't have a good jab and has trouble generating offense in the middle of the ring. He has a VERY short reach. Probably not going to be an elite fighter at any point in his career - but he will make a lot of money.

    Lemieux has earned his perfect record to this point. He finds a way to get inside, sit on your chest and throw bombs. The way he digs in to the body and throws short punches inside is a thing of beauty. Every shot is thrown with power and he'll get off a ton of shots with his opponent doing nothing more than covering up.

    Of his 21 KO's, 18 have come inside of 2 rounds. All are inside of 5 rounds. He's blowing people out. He's fighting at home. Another easy KO? I'm not so sure about that one.

    Elvin Ayala is a game fighter. He went to Germany and did well against Abraham until getting caught with a huge left hand in the 12th round. He went to California and got a draw against Mora. If you need a seasoned vet that will make you work without risking a loss, you've found your guy.

    Lemieux needs a step up in class and to go some rounds. This fight meets both of those criteria. He's a young, green, cash machine. Lemieux could stop Ayala, but they wanted this fight for a specific reason. They'll get the work from their prospect here in a case of Matchmaking 101.

    Lemieux/Ayala over 8.5, -120 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Lemieux is an interesting fighter. He's 21 years old and having no problem packing seats north of the border. He gets the showcase on Friday Night Fights. 22-0 with 21 KO's. Can't miss, exciting fighter with star potential? Not really.

    Lemieux doesn't really have the shocking one punch power his impressive KO ratio would suggest. He doesn't have a good jab and has trouble generating offense in the middle of the ring. He has a VERY short reach. Probably not going to be an elite fighter at any point in his career - but he will make a lot of money.

    Lemieux has earned his perfect record to this point. He finds a way to get inside, sit on your chest and throw bombs. The way he digs in to the body and throws short punches inside is a thing of beauty. Every shot is thrown with power and he'll get off a ton of shots with his opponent doing nothing more than covering up.

    Of his 21 KO's, 18 have come inside of 2 rounds. All are inside of 5 rounds. He's blowing people out. He's fighting at home. Another easy KO? I'm not so sure about that one.

    Elvin Ayala is a game fighter. He went to Germany and did well against Abraham until getting caught with a huge left hand in the 12th round. He went to California and got a draw against Mora. If you need a seasoned vet that will make you work without risking a loss, you've found your guy.

    Lemieux needs a step up in class and to go some rounds. This fight meets both of those criteria. He's a young, green, cash machine. Lemieux could stop Ayala, but they wanted this fight for a specific reason. They'll get the work from their prospect here in a case of Matchmaking 101.

    Lemieux/Ayala over 8.5, -120 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 8:15 AM ET #2

    Gonna tail you on this one as I have never seen either fighter
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    Gonna tail you on this one as I have never seen either fighter
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 5:40 PM ET #3

    ya, i think i will follow you too. I was wondering why the o/u is so high with a guy that kos people. I havent seen any of his fights just the training videos that he was in when he was a kid on youtube. Thanks for the info
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    ya, i think i will follow you too. I was wondering why the o/u is so high with a guy that kos people. I havent seen any of his fights just the training videos that he was in when he was a kid on youtube. Thanks for the info
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 7:35 PM ET #4

    I agree with you, walk.  I would be surprised to see Ayala stopped early.  He gets hit a lot, but I don't think Lemiuex's power is all it's cracked up to be.  Maybe you give him a little credit for blowing out Smichet, but Smichet has had tons of trouble with limited fighters in the past (the Duddy fight pops in my head).  And Ayala is tough, like you said.  I think he lasts a while here, but Lemieux should still win easily.

     

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I like Vera a little bit on the undercard.  I know he's lost three in a row, but they were all to pretty good fighters.  Demers is a decent boxer, but he's got no pop.  Vera should be able to walk through his shots (hell, he took Kirkland's punches for longer than most people do) and maybe he can bust up Demers. 

     

    Just playing a small parlay here:

    Vera (+450) + Lemieux (-1100); risking .4 to win 2.

     

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    I agree with you, walk.  I would be surprised to see Ayala stopped early.  He gets hit a lot, but I don't think Lemiuex's power is all it's cracked up to be.  Maybe you give him a little credit for blowing out Smichet, but Smichet has had tons of trouble with limited fighters in the past (the Duddy fight pops in my head).  And Ayala is tough, like you said.  I think he lasts a while here, but Lemieux should still win easily.

     

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I like Vera a little bit on the undercard.  I know he's lost three in a row, but they were all to pretty good fighters.  Demers is a decent boxer, but he's got no pop.  Vera should be able to walk through his shots (hell, he took Kirkland's punches for longer than most people do) and maybe he can bust up Demers. 

     

    Just playing a small parlay here:

    Vera (+450) + Lemieux (-1100); risking .4 to win 2.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 8:53 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I agree with you, walk.  I would be surprised to see Ayala stopped early.  He gets hit a lot, but I don't think Lemiuex's power is all it's cracked up to be.  Maybe you give him a little credit for blowing out Smichet, but Smichet has had tons of trouble with limited fighters in the past (the Duddy fight pops in my head).  And Ayala is tough, like you said.  I think he lasts a while here, but Lemieux should still win easily.

     

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I like Vera a little bit on the undercard.  I know he's lost three in a row, but they were all to pretty good fighters.  Demers is a decent boxer, but he's got no pop.  Vera should be able to walk through his shots (hell, he took Kirkland's punches for longer than most people do) and maybe he can bust up Demers. 

     

    Just playing a small parlay here:

    Vera (+450) + Lemieux (-1100); risking .4 to win 2.

     

     

    Great call on Vera Danno

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I agree with you, walk.  I would be surprised to see Ayala stopped early.  He gets hit a lot, but I don't think Lemiuex's power is all it's cracked up to be.  Maybe you give him a little credit for blowing out Smichet, but Smichet has had tons of trouble with limited fighters in the past (the Duddy fight pops in my head).  And Ayala is tough, like you said.  I think he lasts a while here, but Lemieux should still win easily.

     

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I like Vera a little bit on the undercard.  I know he's lost three in a row, but they were all to pretty good fighters.  Demers is a decent boxer, but he's got no pop.  Vera should be able to walk through his shots (hell, he took Kirkland's punches for longer than most people do) and maybe he can bust up Demers. 

     

    Just playing a small parlay here:

    Vera (+450) + Lemieux (-1100); risking .4 to win 2.

     

     

    Great call on Vera Danno

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 8:54 PM ET #6

    danno great call on Vera, you could tell from the start he was the better fighter and to get him at +450 is unbelievable!
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    danno great call on Vera, you could tell from the start he was the better fighter and to get him at +450 is unbelievable!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 9:09 PM ET #7

    Great hit Danno!!
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    Great hit Danno!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 9:12 PM ET #8

    VERA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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    VERA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 9:50 PM ET #9

     Ouch...  One round and 

    Still not buying the Lemiuex hype, but he got me tonight.

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     Ouch...  One round and 

    Still not buying the Lemiuex hype, but he got me tonight.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2010 - 9:55 PM ET #10

    Tough one guys.  Ayala got hurt early in the round and that was it.  Never recovered.  Give Lemiuex credit for finishing the job the way he did. 

     

    And thanks for the above compliments.   

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    Tough one guys.  Ayala got hurt early in the round and that was it.  Never recovered.  Give Lemiuex credit for finishing the job the way he did. 

     

    And thanks for the above compliments.   

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 4:30 AM ET #11

    Walktheline we haven't been best mates but you have been on fire lately. You can't win them all. I was impressed with Lemieux. No doubt he has yet to be tested but on what he has done so far in a very weak middleweight division he is a contender for sure..

    I am huge on Andre Ward next weekend. Have him in doubles/Parlay's with everything. Will also make a big single play on the fight itself. Just trying to work out in my head can Green go the distance. I would price Ward as -1500 and I am serious here. I think Green is not in the same Universe as a boxer. Going to be a Ward beatdown

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    Walktheline we haven't been best mates but you have been on fire lately. You can't win them all. I was impressed with Lemieux. No doubt he has yet to be tested but on what he has done so far in a very weak middleweight division he is a contender for sure..

    I am huge on Andre Ward next weekend. Have him in doubles/Parlay's with everything. Will also make a big single play on the fight itself. Just trying to work out in my head can Green go the distance. I would price Ward as -1500 and I am serious here. I think Green is not in the same Universe as a boxer. Going to be a Ward beatdown

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 12:54 PM ET #12

    mack, are you not afraid of the punching powere of Green? Just a question because I have seen only one fight and that was on Friday night fights years ago, where he was rocked and almost lost when he was fighting a guy he was suppose to get an automatic win on.  I think it was him, it was so long ago.
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    mack, are you not afraid of the punching powere of Green? Just a question because I have seen only one fight and that was on Friday night fights years ago, where he was rocked and almost lost when he was fighting a guy he was suppose to get an automatic win on.  I think it was him, it was so long ago.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 1:24 PM ET #13

    I think Allan Green is trash
    built his record up fighting bums, old contenders, and never was wannabees

    I hope, and think, that Ward will convincingly thrash this loudmouth
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    I think Allan Green is trash
    built his record up fighting bums, old contenders, and never was wannabees

    I hope, and think, that Ward will convincingly thrash this loudmouth
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 5:47 PM ET #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch:

    mack, are you not afraid of the punching powere of Green? Just a question because I have seen only one fight and that was on Friday night fights years ago, where he was rocked and almost lost when he was fighting a guy he was suppose to get an automatic win on.  I think it was him, it was so long ago.


    I saw that fight also that it was against Donny McCrary  (His sparring partner), he got rocked and was so close to being on his feet.

    From that moment on I knew his chin was suspect and if you ever followed Allan Green's career he lost to Miranda when he stepped up  in competition blamed his "colon".

    He then developed this ocd habit of staring at his feet or something watch tape it's crazy.

    Allan Green has nothing to lose he's in on a freebie, he will be fighting back on ESPN FNF again in 8 months trying to get back to the top like many other fighters do.

    I question Green's chin, stamina and most of all confidence after the early rounds, he looks good early but Ward is on a different level than him.

    The best Green can do is go the distance and lose a lopsided decision, but I believe he will be knocked out late in the fight.

    I don't see any props yet so won't make a pick but it will be Ward in  SOME fashion.

    I know this was aimed at Mac but I saw that fight back in '06 and saw Green get exposed then.

    Cheers
       
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch:

    mack, are you not afraid of the punching powere of Green? Just a question because I have seen only one fight and that was on Friday night fights years ago, where he was rocked and almost lost when he was fighting a guy he was suppose to get an automatic win on.  I think it was him, it was so long ago.


    I saw that fight also that it was against Donny McCrary  (His sparring partner), he got rocked and was so close to being on his feet.

    From that moment on I knew his chin was suspect and if you ever followed Allan Green's career he lost to Miranda when he stepped up  in competition blamed his "colon".

    He then developed this ocd habit of staring at his feet or something watch tape it's crazy.

    Allan Green has nothing to lose he's in on a freebie, he will be fighting back on ESPN FNF again in 8 months trying to get back to the top like many other fighters do.

    I question Green's chin, stamina and most of all confidence after the early rounds, he looks good early but Ward is on a different level than him.

    The best Green can do is go the distance and lose a lopsided decision, but I believe he will be knocked out late in the fight.

    I don't see any props yet so won't make a pick but it will be Ward in  SOME fashion.

    I know this was aimed at Mac but I saw that fight back in '06 and saw Green get exposed then.

    Cheers
       
     
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    Ward by dec or late-late TKO. You have to respect Green's power.
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    Ward by dec or late-late TKO. You have to respect Green's power.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:




    From that moment on I knew his chin was suspect and if you ever followed Allan Green's career he lost to Miranda when he stepped up  in competition blamed his "colon".


    His colon issues were real.  He had major surgery to remove most of his colon and some of his intestine.  Dan Rafael of ESPN said this on Friday about the Miranda fight:

    "I was in Puerto Rico for that fight and I am certainly not a Green defender, but I will say this -- he was honestly very ill going into that fight and frnakly should have pulled out of it."

     

    That being said, I'm not picking Green in this fight.  I'm just saying that the colon issues were legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:




    From that moment on I knew his chin was suspect and if you ever followed Allan Green's career he lost to Miranda when he stepped up  in competition blamed his "colon".


    His colon issues were real.  He had major surgery to remove most of his colon and some of his intestine.  Dan Rafael of ESPN said this on Friday about the Miranda fight:

    "I was in Puerto Rico for that fight and I am certainly not a Green defender, but I will say this -- he was honestly very ill going into that fight and frnakly should have pulled out of it."

     

    That being said, I'm not picking Green in this fight.  I'm just saying that the colon issues were legitimate.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 12:04 PM ET #18

    Danno I know they were legit, easy to see if someone has most of their colon removed, not the point I was making was saying he used it as an excuse. I believe he had part  or most of his colon taken out.

    It's just he went on to fight anyways, and he seemed like the same Allan Green as always.

    He said he was 100 % after having the most of colon removed, but he has he been very lack luster his POST COLON fights, before Miranda fight his chin and stamina were suspect too again inferior opponents.

    Typical training camp is about two months give or take, I just cannot see a man being so sick and "training for 6-8 weeks" and going through the fight.. if he did he has to be the dumbest person on earth and fire his manager.

     I just hope 5dimes has some good props up for the fight :-)


                                     

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    Danno I know they were legit, easy to see if someone has most of their colon removed, not the point I was making was saying he used it as an excuse. I believe he had part  or most of his colon taken out.

    It's just he went on to fight anyways, and he seemed like the same Allan Green as always.

    He said he was 100 % after having the most of colon removed, but he has he been very lack luster his POST COLON fights, before Miranda fight his chin and stamina were suspect too again inferior opponents.

    Typical training camp is about two months give or take, I just cannot see a man being so sick and "training for 6-8 weeks" and going through the fight.. if he did he has to be the dumbest person on earth and fire his manager.

     I just hope 5dimes has some good props up for the fight :-)


                                     

     
     
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    I feel strongly Alan Green is one of the most over rated boxers in the world today. For me Andre Ward is not only the best Super Middleweight (Including Lucian Bute) but I have him top 5 P4P in the world today.

    Yes Green has power in both hands but Andre Ward is extremely smart fighter with superb defensive skills. This is a fantastic matchup for Ward and it will be a lopsided win. Just not sure if Ward can get the KO so I will play Ward on Points and Ward to win by KO between rounds 10-12. I wouldn't rule out an early KO here at all but Alan Green showed toughness to hang on in there with Miranda when he was gassed quite early in that fight. Also the only criticism I have for Andre Ward is that at times he lacks that killer instinct when he has got his opponent in trouble..I think maybe Green can hang on till late.

    I have parlayed Ward -600 with alot of things. Steve Molitor and Devon Alexander to me look very strong upcoming picks so maybe an idea to combine both. My biggest parlay here is (sorry to mention figures but it gives an idea what you could win if it hits) $6000 to win $8166.67 Ward and Alexander. That's a 2k win for what looks to me a VERY safe bet..

    On the Ward fight I just can't be sure when or how he gets the win so I REALLY like parlaying here. I will take a chance on

    Ward on points @ Evens

    Ward to win between rounds 10-12 @ +800

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    I feel strongly Alan Green is one of the most over rated boxers in the world today. For me Andre Ward is not only the best Super Middleweight (Including Lucian Bute) but I have him top 5 P4P in the world today.

    Yes Green has power in both hands but Andre Ward is extremely smart fighter with superb defensive skills. This is a fantastic matchup for Ward and it will be a lopsided win. Just not sure if Ward can get the KO so I will play Ward on Points and Ward to win by KO between rounds 10-12. I wouldn't rule out an early KO here at all but Alan Green showed toughness to hang on in there with Miranda when he was gassed quite early in that fight. Also the only criticism I have for Andre Ward is that at times he lacks that killer instinct when he has got his opponent in trouble..I think maybe Green can hang on till late.

    I have parlayed Ward -600 with alot of things. Steve Molitor and Devon Alexander to me look very strong upcoming picks so maybe an idea to combine both. My biggest parlay here is (sorry to mention figures but it gives an idea what you could win if it hits) $6000 to win $8166.67 Ward and Alexander. That's a 2k win for what looks to me a VERY safe bet..

    On the Ward fight I just can't be sure when or how he gets the win so I REALLY like parlaying here. I will take a chance on

    Ward on points @ Evens

    Ward to win between rounds 10-12 @ +800

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