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    Final Thoughts For fight of the year

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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2009 - 8:05 PM ET #1

    I have watched as much footage as I can. I watched Pacman's last 4 fights. Cotto's last 4 fights. I watched Pacmans 24/7 with Oscar/Fatman and of course Cotto.

    What a fight we have to look forward to tomorrow. The simple fact is that anyway that thinks Pacman -300/350 is a steal don't know boxing. I have been less then impressed with Pacquaio in the buildup to this fight. He does not look focused enough for me and he doesn't look as hungry as I have seen previously. He has been starring in movies, his training camp has looked like a circus to me and now he has organised some sort of concert straight after the fight!

    Cotto on the otherhand looks as fit as I have ever seen him. His confidence is sky high and right now in my eyes this is a 50/50 fight which means Cotto is exceptional value for the upset. I wouldn't even call it an upset to be honest. Cotto is a far superior opponent then a well past it opponent in Oscar and the most over rated fighter in living memory Hatton.

    Pacquaio is though a once in a generation fighter. In Money M we have 2. For me Mayweather is the most naturally gifted fighter I have seen maybe in my lifetime (I am 34). I would rate FMM even more naturally gifted then RJJ (debates for another day). Pacman is not as gifted but seeing him evolve into this amazing fighter has has won at 106! its quite frankly incredible. If Floyd continues to avoid the tough fights pacman will be the name we all remember and not Floyd.

    Anyway. Sooner or later Manny was going to take on a challenge that was too big for him. The closer we get to the fight the more I feel Cotto could be that challenge that is just too much. If he Exchanges with Cotto regulary Miguel WILL knock him out. I have no doubt about this. The best way for Manny to win this fight is to ignore his old instincts for a brawl and stick and move, in and out. Use his speed effectively and avoid letting Cotto close down the ring.

    I think Freddie Roach knows this too and I think in the main you will see Manny boxing from the outside, using his speed and trying not to engage too much (certainly not in the early rounds). He will have to engage at some stage because a Leopard can't change his spots that much and at the end of the day Manny is a warrior and he loves to give value for money to the fans. Therefore we should see 2-3 barnstorming rounds. How Pacman deals with these rounds will determine the outcome of the fight.

    I believe Manny will have some seriously dodgy moments in this fight and he could be knocked out BUT I am not changing my final picks for the fight..

    Over 9.5 rounds 4*star bet +110

    small savers on........

    Pacman to win on points 2* bet +300

    Cotto TKO 1* bet +300.....

    Everyone, good luck with your bets and lets hope its what we think it will be.

     

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    I have watched as much footage as I can. I watched Pacman's last 4 fights. Cotto's last 4 fights. I watched Pacmans 24/7 with Oscar/Fatman and of course Cotto.

    What a fight we have to look forward to tomorrow. The simple fact is that anyway that thinks Pacman -300/350 is a steal don't know boxing. I have been less then impressed with Pacquaio in the buildup to this fight. He does not look focused enough for me and he doesn't look as hungry as I have seen previously. He has been starring in movies, his training camp has looked like a circus to me and now he has organised some sort of concert straight after the fight!

    Cotto on the otherhand looks as fit as I have ever seen him. His confidence is sky high and right now in my eyes this is a 50/50 fight which means Cotto is exceptional value for the upset. I wouldn't even call it an upset to be honest. Cotto is a far superior opponent then a well past it opponent in Oscar and the most over rated fighter in living memory Hatton.

    Pacquaio is though a once in a generation fighter. In Money M we have 2. For me Mayweather is the most naturally gifted fighter I have seen maybe in my lifetime (I am 34). I would rate FMM even more naturally gifted then RJJ (debates for another day). Pacman is not as gifted but seeing him evolve into this amazing fighter has has won at 106! its quite frankly incredible. If Floyd continues to avoid the tough fights pacman will be the name we all remember and not Floyd.

    Anyway. Sooner or later Manny was going to take on a challenge that was too big for him. The closer we get to the fight the more I feel Cotto could be that challenge that is just too much. If he Exchanges with Cotto regulary Miguel WILL knock him out. I have no doubt about this. The best way for Manny to win this fight is to ignore his old instincts for a brawl and stick and move, in and out. Use his speed effectively and avoid letting Cotto close down the ring.

    I think Freddie Roach knows this too and I think in the main you will see Manny boxing from the outside, using his speed and trying not to engage too much (certainly not in the early rounds). He will have to engage at some stage because a Leopard can't change his spots that much and at the end of the day Manny is a warrior and he loves to give value for money to the fans. Therefore we should see 2-3 barnstorming rounds. How Pacman deals with these rounds will determine the outcome of the fight.

    I believe Manny will have some seriously dodgy moments in this fight and he could be knocked out BUT I am not changing my final picks for the fight..

    Over 9.5 rounds 4*star bet +110

    small savers on........

    Pacman to win on points 2* bet +300

    Cotto TKO 1* bet +300.....

    Everyone, good luck with your bets and lets hope its what we think it will be.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2009 - 9:54 PM ET #2

    Cotto, too big for Pacman???????????? Valuev is too BIG for Haye.
    Go figure, speed kills. Cotto will be Pacman's punching bag. Cotto has power but hard to connect against Pacman quickness. It won't last 9.5 rounds. GL




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    Cotto, too big for Pacman???????????? Valuev is too BIG for Haye.
    Go figure, speed kills. Cotto will be Pacman's punching bag. Cotto has power but hard to connect against Pacman quickness. It won't last 9.5 rounds. GL




     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2009 - 10:46 PM ET #3

    As I have said before, Cotto's strength will be negated by Manny's speed and incredible footwork. His reflexes are very quick and what will Cotto's POWERFUL punch do if the target is not there. Yes Cotto has undeniable power in his punches but will they connect and will Manny's face be there to meet those punches? AND have you tried a strong punch and misses? It drains your strength and if this continues frustration and fatigue will get Cotto as the rounds or if they will progress.
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    As I have said before, Cotto's strength will be negated by Manny's speed and incredible footwork. His reflexes are very quick and what will Cotto's POWERFUL punch do if the target is not there. Yes Cotto has undeniable power in his punches but will they connect and will Manny's face be there to meet those punches? AND have you tried a strong punch and misses? It drains your strength and if this continues frustration and fatigue will get Cotto as the rounds or if they will progress.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2009 - 12:38 AM ET #4

    well my over hit and I am happy about that (CONGRATS OVER BACKERS!!)), Points nearly but too I didnt want to win that bet. I wanted them to stop it after 10

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    well my over hit and I am happy about that (CONGRATS OVER BACKERS!!)), Points nearly but too I didnt want to win that bet. I wanted them to stop it after 10

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