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    Fight Camp 360 - Super Six

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    Mack05
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2010 - 3:02 PM ET #1

    Guys I'm sure most of you have seen these but they really are a cracking watch. Episode 5 Just uploaded. Everybit as good as HBO 24/7. Great job by Showtime..This is living up to all the hype..

    https://sports.sho.com/fight-camp-360.html 

     

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    Guys I'm sure most of you have seen these but they really are a cracking watch. Episode 5 Just uploaded. Everybit as good as HBO 24/7. Great job by Showtime..This is living up to all the hype..

    https://sports.sho.com/fight-camp-360.html 

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2010 - 3:41 PM ET #2

    100% in agreement Mack
    In my opinion, even better than 24/7
    Great editing and great footage
    2 thumbs up !
    Gives a wider perspective on the stakes involved with this tourney
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    100% in agreement Mack
    In my opinion, even better than 24/7
    Great editing and great footage
    2 thumbs up !
    Gives a wider perspective on the stakes involved with this tourney
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2010 - 11:12 PM ET #3

    Very well done, love the fight build up between Dirrell and Abraham, also during the fight getting reactions from all the people there.

    I love uncut scenes (the raw cursing and emotions the moment something happens).

    Seems as if Green was rooting for Dirrell, but when Dirrell was on the ropes he yelled get off the ropes so not sure who Green was even going for.

    Kessler is already talking like a beat man, doesn't sound like he has much confidence left. Hometown crowd could help him but Froch is an unbeaten man and has so much ego right now.

    The line of the whole segment was Dirrell's Fiancee .. "I don't want none of that Jermaine Taylor shit"- that was priceless!

    Good to see showtime doing some good work BUILDING up fights and catching up to HBO in quality.

    The segment between Dirrell and Abraham (during the fight) is the best editing I've seen in boxing.. they got the key peoples reactions that weren't "scripted". Excellent work!      


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    Very well done, love the fight build up between Dirrell and Abraham, also during the fight getting reactions from all the people there.

    I love uncut scenes (the raw cursing and emotions the moment something happens).

    Seems as if Green was rooting for Dirrell, but when Dirrell was on the ropes he yelled get off the ropes so not sure who Green was even going for.

    Kessler is already talking like a beat man, doesn't sound like he has much confidence left. Hometown crowd could help him but Froch is an unbeaten man and has so much ego right now.

    The line of the whole segment was Dirrell's Fiancee .. "I don't want none of that Jermaine Taylor shit"- that was priceless!

    Good to see showtime doing some good work BUILDING up fights and catching up to HBO in quality.

    The segment between Dirrell and Abraham (during the fight) is the best editing I've seen in boxing.. they got the key peoples reactions that weren't "scripted". Excellent work!      


     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2010 - 11:14 PM ET #4

    Sorry seems as if Green was rooting for Abraham I meant, then when Dirrell went to the ropes he was yelling get off the ropes as if he was rooting for Dirrell.

    Super Six is doing good.. the damn delays do put some distance between the other fights but other than that we've seen many good FREE FIGHTS :-)


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    Sorry seems as if Green was rooting for Abraham I meant, then when Dirrell went to the ropes he was yelling get off the ropes as if he was rooting for Dirrell.

    Super Six is doing good.. the damn delays do put some distance between the other fights but other than that we've seen many good FREE FIGHTS :-)


     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2010 - 11:53 AM ET #5

    Excellent episode. Absolutely love the latest installment.
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    Excellent episode. Absolutely love the latest installment.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2010 - 12:05 PM ET #6

    I am loving the Super six right now but it does have some SERIOUS MAJOR flaws. First off the bat Jermaine Taylor should never have been there. We all knew he was shot, we all knew he wouldn't see it out. Allan Green as a replacement is not good enough. He is a class below these guys and he will get exposed in this tourney. I see Ward has opened -800. If I got -400 I was ploughing into it. Now there is no value. Books have priced this fight up correctly. Some people may think +450 is great value on Green. Trust me it is not.

    Getting back to the Flaws here. Lucian Bute was the guy they needed instead of Taylor. Now I have heard different reasons why he is not there from HBO contracts to Showtime not making enough of an effort etc etc but the tournament badly needed him and here is why.

    If Bute was in and fought AA in Germany first off the bat I wouldn't even attempt to cap this fight. I honestly wouldn't have a clue who wins. Instead Taylor gets in, goes over and AA gets 3 points. These points may be what gets AA into the semi finals at the expense of a man that boxed his ears off the other week.

    Dirrells last fight is against Ward and I can't see him beating Ward. I think he shows Ward WAY to much respect and I don't think Dirrell in his heart of hearts believes he can beat Ward (unless they have a gentlemans agreement afterall they are great mates but lets assume everything plays out fairly). That Leaves Dirrell on 2 points.

    Rich was saying above that he doesnt think Kessler believes he can win. I don't agree. Kessler was a good fighter and every good fighter has one good fight left in him (its an old saying and so true in many cases). Kessler knows he if losses to Froch his tournament and more importantly his career is over. The problem with Kessler is that he is a seriously laid back nice guy. He went over the Oakland. Ward was full of respect for him. Add to the fact Kessler had been so inactive the previous 24 months, I felt this was a serious banana skin and so it turned out.

    Now he is going into this fight and the books are calling it 50/50. I agree. 3 years my mortgage would have went on Kessler. Now I can't back the guy with any huge amount of confidence. I will be back closer to the fight with my picks and writeup (I will be playing Froch in running after 6 rounds when he is miles behind).

    Kessler knows this is last chance saloon and I notice he is using Froch's comments as motivation. Froch has since tried to play down the comments he made but I think it may be too late. Kessler is going into this fight low key but I think he is seriously up for this fight. If he wins he gets Allan Green and no matter where they fight, Green is never beating Kessler, providing Kessler has something to fight for.

    And here is where I am having the problem. If Kessler or AA gets a semi final place at the expense of Andre Dirrell its wrong. Right now in their careers Dirrell is better then both. 5 years ago Kessler but not now. Ok Dirrells tactics in the Froch fight were not to be admired but anyone who knows boxing, knows Dirrell won the fight. Simple as. If the fight was anywhere BUT England Dirrell gets the nod. That would have left Dirrell on 4 points and guarenteed a semi spot, which on form he deserves. I think only Andre Ward has looked better in this tourney.

    But because of the way the whole scenario has played out we are going to have Ward in for sure. Probably Froch as I like him to beat AA in Nottingham (Home advantage wins this one and Froch got it). Then you have Kessler, AA and Dirrell figthing it out for the last 2 spots. The 3 points AA got for the kO of a guy that should never have been there, makes this so unfair and flawed and may be the reason these touraments may never be done again.

    Interesting times ahead. I just hope Dirrell makes the semis. He is truly deserving..If Dirrell and Kessler both end up on 2 points then a box off would be great for the semi's..Here's hoping it all eventually gets resolved fairly because a semi final list of Kessler, Froch, AA and Ward is NOT fair..

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    I am loving the Super six right now but it does have some SERIOUS MAJOR flaws. First off the bat Jermaine Taylor should never have been there. We all knew he was shot, we all knew he wouldn't see it out. Allan Green as a replacement is not good enough. He is a class below these guys and he will get exposed in this tourney. I see Ward has opened -800. If I got -400 I was ploughing into it. Now there is no value. Books have priced this fight up correctly. Some people may think +450 is great value on Green. Trust me it is not.

    Getting back to the Flaws here. Lucian Bute was the guy they needed instead of Taylor. Now I have heard different reasons why he is not there from HBO contracts to Showtime not making enough of an effort etc etc but the tournament badly needed him and here is why.

    If Bute was in and fought AA in Germany first off the bat I wouldn't even attempt to cap this fight. I honestly wouldn't have a clue who wins. Instead Taylor gets in, goes over and AA gets 3 points. These points may be what gets AA into the semi finals at the expense of a man that boxed his ears off the other week.

    Dirrells last fight is against Ward and I can't see him beating Ward. I think he shows Ward WAY to much respect and I don't think Dirrell in his heart of hearts believes he can beat Ward (unless they have a gentlemans agreement afterall they are great mates but lets assume everything plays out fairly). That Leaves Dirrell on 2 points.

    Rich was saying above that he doesnt think Kessler believes he can win. I don't agree. Kessler was a good fighter and every good fighter has one good fight left in him (its an old saying and so true in many cases). Kessler knows he if losses to Froch his tournament and more importantly his career is over. The problem with Kessler is that he is a seriously laid back nice guy. He went over the Oakland. Ward was full of respect for him. Add to the fact Kessler had been so inactive the previous 24 months, I felt this was a serious banana skin and so it turned out.

    Now he is going into this fight and the books are calling it 50/50. I agree. 3 years my mortgage would have went on Kessler. Now I can't back the guy with any huge amount of confidence. I will be back closer to the fight with my picks and writeup (I will be playing Froch in running after 6 rounds when he is miles behind).

    Kessler knows this is last chance saloon and I notice he is using Froch's comments as motivation. Froch has since tried to play down the comments he made but I think it may be too late. Kessler is going into this fight low key but I think he is seriously up for this fight. If he wins he gets Allan Green and no matter where they fight, Green is never beating Kessler, providing Kessler has something to fight for.

    And here is where I am having the problem. If Kessler or AA gets a semi final place at the expense of Andre Dirrell its wrong. Right now in their careers Dirrell is better then both. 5 years ago Kessler but not now. Ok Dirrells tactics in the Froch fight were not to be admired but anyone who knows boxing, knows Dirrell won the fight. Simple as. If the fight was anywhere BUT England Dirrell gets the nod. That would have left Dirrell on 4 points and guarenteed a semi spot, which on form he deserves. I think only Andre Ward has looked better in this tourney.

    But because of the way the whole scenario has played out we are going to have Ward in for sure. Probably Froch as I like him to beat AA in Nottingham (Home advantage wins this one and Froch got it). Then you have Kessler, AA and Dirrell figthing it out for the last 2 spots. The 3 points AA got for the kO of a guy that should never have been there, makes this so unfair and flawed and may be the reason these touraments may never be done again.

    Interesting times ahead. I just hope Dirrell makes the semis. He is truly deserving..If Dirrell and Kessler both end up on 2 points then a box off would be great for the semi's..Here's hoping it all eventually gets resolved fairly because a semi final list of Kessler, Froch, AA and Ward is NOT fair..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2010 - 2:36 PM ET #7

    A friend of mine from CO. said he's got the inside scoop to the effect that Kessler is training like a beast. I'll try and get more info.

    Where did you read Froch has home court against Abraham? Last I looked it was tba. TIA.


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    A friend of mine from CO. said he's got the inside scoop to the effect that Kessler is training like a beast. I'll try and get more info.

    Where did you read Froch has home court against Abraham? Last I looked it was tba. TIA.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2010 - 3:19 PM ET #8

    I can't wait for Froch vs Abraham. Especially since Froch will lose to Kessler leaving both Froch and Bram needing a win. That's gonna be a great fight that won't go the distance. I didn't know Kessler was training in Colorado. That's a plus because too many of his sparring partners in Germany have that prototypical standup European style. Froch on the other hand has a very American style. I heavily favor Kessler. I just hope he doesn't back off the pedal when he gets Froch hurt.
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    I can't wait for Froch vs Abraham. Especially since Froch will lose to Kessler leaving both Froch and Bram needing a win. That's gonna be a great fight that won't go the distance. I didn't know Kessler was training in Colorado. That's a plus because too many of his sparring partners in Germany have that prototypical standup European style. Froch on the other hand has a very American style. I heavily favor Kessler. I just hope he doesn't back off the pedal when he gets Froch hurt.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #9

    I absolutely love the Super Six and the 360. I cant wait for the Froch fight, I think it will be more exciting than sugar vs pretty boy. I won with Dirrell even though I was getting scared as he was becoming very tired. I look to take Kessler in this one because I think Froch is just too slow.

     Plus Froch says he abstains from sex from his hot ass girlfriend weeks before the fight because he thinks its bad for his training, wtf why would anyone do that? I would bang that bitch every night!And do this to her box!

     And truth be told, it is actually good to have sex, it increases the testosterone in your blood stream, which improves muscle control and strength.

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    I absolutely love the Super Six and the 360. I cant wait for the Froch fight, I think it will be more exciting than sugar vs pretty boy. I won with Dirrell even though I was getting scared as he was becoming very tired. I look to take Kessler in this one because I think Froch is just too slow.

     Plus Froch says he abstains from sex from his hot ass girlfriend weeks before the fight because he thinks its bad for his training, wtf why would anyone do that? I would bang that bitch every night!And do this to her box!

     And truth be told, it is actually good to have sex, it increases the testosterone in your blood stream, which improves muscle control and strength.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 10:02 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    A friend of mine from CO. said he's got the inside scoop to the effect that Kessler is training like a beast. I'll try and get more info.

    Where did you read Froch has home court against Abraham? Last I looked it was tba. TIA.


    Here you go McN

    https://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23416&more=1 

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    A friend of mine from CO. said he's got the inside scoop to the effect that Kessler is training like a beast. I'll try and get more info.

    Where did you read Froch has home court against Abraham? Last I looked it was tba. TIA.


    Here you go McN

    https://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23416&more=1 

     
     
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    Still sticking with Froch vs Ward for the finals
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    Still sticking with Froch vs Ward for the finals
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