Is anybody else out there salivating over this fight. I wasn't too familiar with Pirog before the fight was announced and I initially thought Jacobs would win. Now that I've begun researching this fight, it's a complete toss-up for me. Jacobs has the athleticism, but Pirog has the higher boxing IQ. Even if I don't bet on this fight(I probably willl though) I'll give my prediction after further research. Pirog has never fought on US television, so I implore anyone not familiar with Pirog to research him. As a boxing fan, I'm looking forward to watching 2 undefeated boxers in their prime with good KO ratios and boxing skills, go at it. Goldenboy promotions needs to be applauded for having such a kick-ass undercard for A PPV.
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Is anybody else out there salivating over this fight. I wasn't too familiar with Pirog before the fight was announced and I initially thought Jacobs would win. Now that I've begun researching this fight, it's a complete toss-up for me. Jacobs has the athleticism, but Pirog has the higher boxing IQ. Even if I don't bet on this fight(I probably willl though) I'll give my prediction after further research. Pirog has never fought on US television, so I implore anyone not familiar with Pirog to research him. As a boxing fan, I'm looking forward to watching 2 undefeated boxers in their prime with good KO ratios and boxing skills, go at it. Goldenboy promotions needs to be applauded for having such a kick-ass undercard for A PPV.
trying to find a line for the Guerrero vs. Casamayor fight, however I don't see any books that list it yet
think they'll eventually put it up? Should be one hell of a fight
Guerrero-Casa is a solid matchup but Casa is gettin old and Guerrero can be ruthless when he wants to be. I see Casa getting broken down in the later rounds and maybe stopped, kinda like the Marquez fight but less out of the blue
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trying to find a line for the Guerrero vs. Casamayor fight, however I don't see any books that list it yet
think they'll eventually put it up? Should be one hell of a fight
Guerrero-Casa is a solid matchup but Casa is gettin old and Guerrero can be ruthless when he wants to be. I see Casa getting broken down in the later rounds and maybe stopped, kinda like the Marquez fight but less out of the blue
Jacobs on espn.com today (his grandmother passed away this week):
Will D (Cumberland, RI)
My condolances for your loss. I'm sure with a heavy heart there will be more motivation to win this title for your grandmother. Best of luck!
Daniel Jacobs
(3:09 PM)
Yeah, it will be more motivation. I know my grandmother will continue to follow my dreams. I know she wants that for me. Her funeral is this Sunday, so right after this fight, I will go see her for my final goodbyes.
Daniel Jacobs
(3:09 PM)
I want to be able to bring her that belt. This fight is really a big deal for me.
Jacobs on espn.com today (his grandmother passed away this week):
Will D (Cumberland, RI)
My condolances for your loss. I'm sure with a heavy heart there will be more motivation to win this title for your grandmother. Best of luck!
Daniel Jacobs
(3:09 PM)
Yeah, it will be more motivation. I know my grandmother will continue to follow my dreams. I know she wants that for me. Her funeral is this Sunday, so right after this fight, I will go see her for my final goodbyes.
Daniel Jacobs
(3:09 PM)
I want to be able to bring her that belt. This fight is really a big deal for me.
DAMN this fight is gonna be good! My official prediction is Pirog. Most likely by dec, but a KO wouldn't surprise me. Having said that Jacobs has alot going for him.
Jacobs is bigger (he weighed 175lbs going into the Ishe fight), taller, longer, quicker, and more powerful.
Jacobs has proven to have a fighter's heart. He stepped on the gas when the Ishe fight got tough. He's going to be even more determined now that his grandma just died.
Even though Pirog has more experience, Jacobs has fought the best opponent of the two, Ishe Smith.
I simply think Pirog is too good however.
Pirog has more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs. I love how he seamlessly switches between the classical boxing stance and the American shoulder roll style. He can counter from both stances too. Great defense. He sets up his hard punches very well. He switches tempos. He works his angles well. Good body attack. But most important, he is relaxed and comfortable doing all of this, which tells me he is a true student of the game. Conrast this to Jacobs who has never gone twelve rounds and has too many early round KOs on his resume. Early round KOs don't do much for your development, and can make you too confident in your power. And even though Jacobs has the edge in athleticism, Pirog is no chump(Pirog has a great boxing body)(watch his fight with Kodsoev). This dude Pirog went ten rounds in his fourth fight, which was fought for a Russian title. Pirog and Jacobs have similar KO ratios but Pirog has fought the overall better competition and Pirog's KOs were set up with more intellect. . Also, I read somwher that Pirog is training in California for this fight so you know he's getting good sparring.
When I play this fight in my mind, I see Jacobs winning the early rounds by keeping his distance and workrate up. But somwhere in the fight Jacobs is going to get rocked by a surprise left hook to the head or body. After this Jacobs will get crunk and stop keeping his distance. This will only serve to tire him and open him up to Pirog's beautiful hard counters. Pirog will then begin to pick up his own workrate and win almost all rounds after 6. I'm not claiming to be a fortune teller, I'm simply stating what I see as the most likely scenario. Win or lose I will continue to follow Pirog's career. He's my new favorite fighter.
THIS IS NOT A BIG PLAY FOR ME. I see Jacobs getting the edge in all the close rounds because he's a Goldenboy fighter on a Goldenboy promotion, plus he's managed by Al Haymon.
DAMN this fight is gonna be good! My official prediction is Pirog. Most likely by dec, but a KO wouldn't surprise me. Having said that Jacobs has alot going for him.
Jacobs is bigger (he weighed 175lbs going into the Ishe fight), taller, longer, quicker, and more powerful.
Jacobs has proven to have a fighter's heart. He stepped on the gas when the Ishe fight got tough. He's going to be even more determined now that his grandma just died.
Even though Pirog has more experience, Jacobs has fought the best opponent of the two, Ishe Smith.
I simply think Pirog is too good however.
Pirog has more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs. I love how he seamlessly switches between the classical boxing stance and the American shoulder roll style. He can counter from both stances too. Great defense. He sets up his hard punches very well. He switches tempos. He works his angles well. Good body attack. But most important, he is relaxed and comfortable doing all of this, which tells me he is a true student of the game. Conrast this to Jacobs who has never gone twelve rounds and has too many early round KOs on his resume. Early round KOs don't do much for your development, and can make you too confident in your power. And even though Jacobs has the edge in athleticism, Pirog is no chump(Pirog has a great boxing body)(watch his fight with Kodsoev). This dude Pirog went ten rounds in his fourth fight, which was fought for a Russian title. Pirog and Jacobs have similar KO ratios but Pirog has fought the overall better competition and Pirog's KOs were set up with more intellect. . Also, I read somwher that Pirog is training in California for this fight so you know he's getting good sparring.
When I play this fight in my mind, I see Jacobs winning the early rounds by keeping his distance and workrate up. But somwhere in the fight Jacobs is going to get rocked by a surprise left hook to the head or body. After this Jacobs will get crunk and stop keeping his distance. This will only serve to tire him and open him up to Pirog's beautiful hard counters. Pirog will then begin to pick up his own workrate and win almost all rounds after 6. I'm not claiming to be a fortune teller, I'm simply stating what I see as the most likely scenario. Win or lose I will continue to follow Pirog's career. He's my new favorite fighter.
THIS IS NOT A BIG PLAY FOR ME. I see Jacobs getting the edge in all the close rounds because he's a Goldenboy fighter on a Goldenboy promotion, plus he's managed by Al Haymon.
DAMN this fight is gonna be good! My official prediction is Pirog. Most likely by dec, but a KO wouldn't surprise me. Having said that Jacobs has alot going for him.
Jacobs is bigger (he weighed 175lbs going into the Ishe fight), taller, longer, quicker, and more powerful.
Jacobs has proven to have a fighter's heart. He stepped on the gas when the Ishe fight got tough. He's going to be even more determined now that his grandma just died.
Even though Pirog has more experience, Jacobs has fought the best opponent of the two, Ishe Smith.
I simply think Pirog is too good however.
Pirog has more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs. I love how he seamlessly switches between the classical boxing stance and the American shoulder roll style. He can counter from both stances too. Great defense. He sets up his hard punches very well. He switches tempos. He works his angles well. Good body attack. But most important, he is relaxed and comfortable doing all of this, which tells me he is a true student of the game. Conrast this to Jacobs who has never gone twelve rounds and has too many early round KOs on his resume. Early round KOs don't do much for your development, and can make you too confident in your power. And even though Jacobs has the edge in athleticism, Pirog is no chump(Pirog has a great boxing body)(watch his fight with Kodsoev). This dude Pirog went ten rounds in his fourth fight, which was fought for a Russian title. Pirog and Jacobs have similar KO ratios but Pirog has fought the overall better competition and Pirog's KOs were set up with more intellect. . Also, I read somwher that Pirog is training in California for this fight so you know he's getting good sparring.
When I play this fight in my mind, I see Jacobs winning the early rounds by keeping his distance and workrate up. But somwhere in the fight Jacobs is going to get rocked by a surprise left hook to the head or body. After this Jacobs will get crunk and stop keeping his distance. This will only serve to tire him and open him up to Pirog's beautiful hard counters. Pirog will then begin to pick up his own workrate and win almost all rounds after 6. I'm not claiming to be a fortune teller, I'm simply stating what I see as the most likely scenario. Win or lose I will continue to follow Pirog's career. He's my new favorite fighter.
THIS IS NOT A BIG PLAY FOR ME. I see Jacobs getting the edge in all the close rounds because he's a Goldenboy fighter on a Goldenboy promotion, plus he's managed by Al Haymon.
Shit, someone else made a thread on the same fight , but I wanted to respond in this one so here's a copy/paste...
I'm a few rounds into watching Pirog.Melis, which was his last fight. I was reading that many people are picking Pirog and heard a lot of praise. But I'm watching this fight and I'm like where is all the hype coming from?
I don't think Jacobs is going to have much of a problem with his guy. Poor defense, lazy jab, slaps. Dmitry does have nice angles on uppercuts, sneaky ones, looks at his best on the inside...his best punches for sure. But besides that can't see him getting a win tonight.
I do have copies of the Toygonbaev and Mitchell fights. I'm going to watch them after this. Doubt I'll see anything else.
My end has Jacobs at -170. I'm not a fan of underdogs and close to even money odds, but I might make an exception and go with Jacobs.
You made good points on Jacobs never going 12; 10 was his longest [Ishe]. Pirog does throw good body shots and is relaxed for sure. I disagree on his defense and him having more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs does.
Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:
DAMN this fight is gonna be good! My official prediction is Pirog. Most likely by dec, but a KO wouldn't surprise me. Having said that Jacobs has alot going for him.
Jacobs is bigger (he weighed 175lbs going into the Ishe fight), taller, longer, quicker, and more powerful.
Jacobs has proven to have a fighter's heart. He stepped on the gas when the Ishe fight got tough. He's going to be even more determined now that his grandma just died.
Even though Pirog has more experience, Jacobs has fought the best opponent of the two, Ishe Smith.
I simply think Pirog is too good however.
Pirog has more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs. I love how he seamlessly switches between the classical boxing stance and the American shoulder roll style. He can counter from both stances too. Great defense. He sets up his hard punches very well. He switches tempos. He works his angles well. Good body attack. But most important, he is relaxed and comfortable doing all of this, which tells me he is a true student of the game. Conrast this to Jacobs who has never gone twelve rounds and has too many early round KOs on his resume. Early round KOs don't do much for your development, and can make you too confident in your power. And even though Jacobs has the edge in athleticism, Pirog is no chump(Pirog has a great boxing body)(watch his fight with Kodsoev). This dude Pirog went ten rounds in his fourth fight, which was fought for a Russian title. Pirog and Jacobs have similar KO ratios but Pirog has fought the overall better competition and Pirog's KOs were set up with more intellect. . Also, I read somwher that Pirog is training in California for this fight so you know he's getting good sparring.
When I play this fight in my mind, I see Jacobs winning the early rounds by keeping his distance and workrate up. But somwhere in the fight Jacobs is going to get rocked by a surprise left hook to the head or body. After this Jacobs will get crunk and stop keeping his distance. This will only serve to tire him and open him up to Pirog's beautiful hard counters. Pirog will then begin to pick up his own workrate and win almost all rounds after 6. I'm not claiming to be a fortune teller, I'm simply stating what I see as the most likely scenario. Win or lose I will continue to follow Pirog's career. He's my new favorite fighter.
THIS IS NOT A BIG PLAY FOR ME. I see Jacobs getting the edge in all the close rounds because he's a Goldenboy fighter on a Goldenboy promotion, plus he's managed by Al Haymon.
Shit, someone else made a thread on the same fight , but I wanted to respond in this one so here's a copy/paste...
I'm a few rounds into watching Pirog.Melis, which was his last fight. I was reading that many people are picking Pirog and heard a lot of praise. But I'm watching this fight and I'm like where is all the hype coming from?
I don't think Jacobs is going to have much of a problem with his guy. Poor defense, lazy jab, slaps. Dmitry does have nice angles on uppercuts, sneaky ones, looks at his best on the inside...his best punches for sure. But besides that can't see him getting a win tonight.
I do have copies of the Toygonbaev and Mitchell fights. I'm going to watch them after this. Doubt I'll see anything else.
My end has Jacobs at -170. I'm not a fan of underdogs and close to even money odds, but I might make an exception and go with Jacobs.
You made good points on Jacobs never going 12; 10 was his longest [Ishe]. Pirog does throw good body shots and is relaxed for sure. I disagree on his defense and him having more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs does.
I thought Jacobs would win, but moreso an anti-Pirog play b/c I havent seen him. Dwyer on YouTube liked Pirog, props to him. He's a good capper so I dont go too big on this.
I thought Jacobs would win, but moreso an anti-Pirog play b/c I havent seen him. Dwyer on YouTube liked Pirog, props to him. He's a good capper so I dont go too big on this.
Shit, someone else made a thread on the same fight , but I wanted to respond in this one so here's a copy/paste...
I'm a few rounds into watching Pirog.Melis, which was his last fight. I was reading that many people are picking Pirog and heard a lot of praise. But I'm watching this fight and I'm like where is all the hype coming from?
I don't think Jacobs is going to have much of a problem with his guy. Poor defense, lazy jab, slaps. Dmitry does have nice angles on uppercuts, sneaky ones, looks at his best on the inside...his best punches for sure. But besides that can't see him getting a win tonight.
I do have copies of the Toygonbaev and Mitchell fights. I'm going to watch them after this. Doubt I'll see anything else.
My end has Jacobs at -170. I'm not a fan of underdogs and close to even money odds, but I might make an exception and go with Jacobs.
You made good points on Jacobs never going 12; 10 was his longest [Ishe]. Pirog does throw good body shots and is relaxed for sure. I disagree on his defense and him having more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs does.
Do u feel me now? Pirog is the real deal. I can't believe they had Jacobs ahead 3-1 at the time of stoppage. Proof that Pirog was on his way to getting robbed!
Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:
Shit, someone else made a thread on the same fight , but I wanted to respond in this one so here's a copy/paste...
I'm a few rounds into watching Pirog.Melis, which was his last fight. I was reading that many people are picking Pirog and heard a lot of praise. But I'm watching this fight and I'm like where is all the hype coming from?
I don't think Jacobs is going to have much of a problem with his guy. Poor defense, lazy jab, slaps. Dmitry does have nice angles on uppercuts, sneaky ones, looks at his best on the inside...his best punches for sure. But besides that can't see him getting a win tonight.
I do have copies of the Toygonbaev and Mitchell fights. I'm going to watch them after this. Doubt I'll see anything else.
My end has Jacobs at -170. I'm not a fan of underdogs and close to even money odds, but I might make an exception and go with Jacobs.
You made good points on Jacobs never going 12; 10 was his longest [Ishe]. Pirog does throw good body shots and is relaxed for sure. I disagree on his defense and him having more elements to his boxing game than Jacobs does.
Do u feel me now? Pirog is the real deal. I can't believe they had Jacobs ahead 3-1 at the time of stoppage. Proof that Pirog was on his way to getting robbed!
Wow Jacobs didn't win a round and they had him up.. good thing Pirog took care of business.
I'm not fond of most international fighters but he doesn't fight that way he is suited more for American boxing.
I believe he will be put on an under card of the next PPV fans took a liking to him and so did I.
He looked so relaxed in there, that takes tons of mental toughness to come from Russia pretty much knowing you would have to take the guys head off to win which he did, but looked relaxed and so smooth on his feet.
Wow Jacobs didn't win a round and they had him up.. good thing Pirog took care of business.
I'm not fond of most international fighters but he doesn't fight that way he is suited more for American boxing.
I believe he will be put on an under card of the next PPV fans took a liking to him and so did I.
He looked so relaxed in there, that takes tons of mental toughness to come from Russia pretty much knowing you would have to take the guys head off to win which he did, but looked relaxed and so smooth on his feet.
Do u feel me now? Pirog is the real deal. I can't believe they had Jacobs ahead 3-1 at the time of stoppage. Proof that Pirog was on his way to getting robbed!
Yup, you were definitely right. I thought Jacobs was winning rounds, I didn't score it, but it appeared Jacobs had adapted and was landing tell tale shots. But Pirog took his time and did what he does best. I was in the bag so who the fuck knows what I was seeing...lol.
Good call, so glad I left it alone.
Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:
Do u feel me now? Pirog is the real deal. I can't believe they had Jacobs ahead 3-1 at the time of stoppage. Proof that Pirog was on his way to getting robbed!
Yup, you were definitely right. I thought Jacobs was winning rounds, I didn't score it, but it appeared Jacobs had adapted and was landing tell tale shots. But Pirog took his time and did what he does best. I was in the bag so who the fuck knows what I was seeing...lol.
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