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    Crawford/Indongo

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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2017 - 6:19 PM ET #1

    Anyone fancy the improbable +2500 upset here?  Well, after reading what remains of this forum, I feel like I should be asking: Does anyone care about any boxing other than Mayweather/McG?

    Anyways, Indongo has the same height/reach advantage Postol did, but probably a more barren record, and seeing as how badly Postol struggled, I'm not sure that bodes well.  In fact, there aren't really any angles to play for Indongo at all except for the fact that he may be tougher than Felix Diaz was. 

    O/U at 9.5 rounds.  Maybe the Blue Machine stands up for 12.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Anyone fancy the improbable +2500 upset here?  Well, after reading what remains of this forum, I feel like I should be asking: Does anyone care about any boxing other than Mayweather/McG?

    Anyways, Indongo has the same height/reach advantage Postol did, but probably a more barren record, and seeing as how badly Postol struggled, I'm not sure that bodes well.  In fact, there aren't really any angles to play for Indongo at all except for the fact that he may be tougher than Felix Diaz was. 

    O/U at 9.5 rounds.  Maybe the Blue Machine stands up for 12.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 1:03 AM ET #2

    Idk about Indongo because I havent seen him fight but if im not mistaken hes upset his last two fights as a big underdog so taking him may be worth a shot. 100 to win 2500 aint bad

    Crawford is a really good fighter hes made some fighters with good records to shame but I still feel he hasn't had that BIG fight he needs to get to the next level of stardom.

    I cant wait to see Canelo GGG
    and I would love to see Rigondeux vs Lomenchenko
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    Idk about Indongo because I havent seen him fight but if im not mistaken hes upset his last two fights as a big underdog so taking him may be worth a shot. 100 to win 2500 aint bad

    Crawford is a really good fighter hes made some fighters with good records to shame but I still feel he hasn't had that BIG fight he needs to get to the next level of stardom.

    I cant wait to see Canelo GGG
    and I would love to see Rigondeux vs Lomenchenko
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 1:09 AM ET #3

    Where are you seeing +2500?

    I'm seeing -2000 Crawford and can get as high as +1200 on Indongo at Pinnacle. But don't see anything close to +2500.  What book you see that line at?

    About the fight.  Indongo is no joke. Just watched his last two fights.  He's a Tall, lanky, awkward southpaw who could be a tough nut to crack.  Coming off two solid road wins, beating Ricky Burns and winning basically every round in Scotland. and also goes into Russia and knocks out Troyanovsky in 40 seconds.  Those are the only fights he's had outside of Namibia and pretty much all we have to go on.  If that same fighter shows up Crawford will have a fight on his hands.

    However we're talking about levels here, and while Indongo looks the part of a solid upper echelon fighter, Crawford is elite and one of the best pound for pound in the world. Crawford will win and probably somewhat easily but i still wouldn't lay -2000.  
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    Where are you seeing +2500?

    I'm seeing -2000 Crawford and can get as high as +1200 on Indongo at Pinnacle. But don't see anything close to +2500.  What book you see that line at?

    About the fight.  Indongo is no joke. Just watched his last two fights.  He's a Tall, lanky, awkward southpaw who could be a tough nut to crack.  Coming off two solid road wins, beating Ricky Burns and winning basically every round in Scotland. and also goes into Russia and knocks out Troyanovsky in 40 seconds.  Those are the only fights he's had outside of Namibia and pretty much all we have to go on.  If that same fighter shows up Crawford will have a fight on his hands.

    However we're talking about levels here, and while Indongo looks the part of a solid upper echelon fighter, Crawford is elite and one of the best pound for pound in the world. Crawford will win and probably somewhat easily but i still wouldn't lay -2000.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 5:39 AM ET #4

    I took a flyer on Indongo. Nothing major. 25 bucks. I didn't get +2500 though. It was like +1100
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    I took a flyer on Indongo. Nothing major. 25 bucks. I didn't get +2500 though. It was like +1100
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 10:58 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by somedayIsuppose:

     I feel like I should be asking: Does anyone care about any boxing other than Mayweather/McG?

    Its because Boxing is the worst sport to bet on.  All you see is mismatches, a clear A side and clear B side, and some over inflated odds on the favorites.  Just look a the fights this Saturday.  We got -10000, -10000, -10000, -2000, -2000, -1600, -1400.  What the hell can you do with those?  Parlay them all to -400?  

    I think thats why you don't see many boxing threads.  Since this is a sports betting website, and boxing is the worst sport to bet on.

    Canelo vs GGG is the rarest of the rare fights.  Two of the best fighting at their peaks in a close to 50-50 fight.  That crap rarely happens anymore.... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by somedayIsuppose:

     I feel like I should be asking: Does anyone care about any boxing other than Mayweather/McG?

    Its because Boxing is the worst sport to bet on.  All you see is mismatches, a clear A side and clear B side, and some over inflated odds on the favorites.  Just look a the fights this Saturday.  We got -10000, -10000, -10000, -2000, -2000, -1600, -1400.  What the hell can you do with those?  Parlay them all to -400?  

    I think thats why you don't see many boxing threads.  Since this is a sports betting website, and boxing is the worst sport to bet on.

    Canelo vs GGG is the rarest of the rare fights.  Two of the best fighting at their peaks in a close to 50-50 fight.  That crap rarely happens anymore.... 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 12:00 PM ET #6

    I've seen the money come in for the under knocking o9.5 down to -125 from -150 a few days ago.  Hard to tell what to expect from Indongo's form and I feel like the fight against Troyanovsky just exposed how empty a record Troyanovsky had.  I can't say I remember Crawford being stunned by any punches, and I can't say Indongo has faced anyone besides the aging Burns that had any power at all.

    Also I was wrong about the price on Indongo, it is +1300, the bigger whopper is the +2200 on Craig Baker taking on one of the Ukranian light heavy/crusiers.  Below that is +1500 on Fransisco Fonseca taking on Gervonta Davis.  So there's 3 insane underdogs coming up, none of which have a lot of angle to play.

    And I can't really say boxing is the worst sport to bet on, one of my biggest hauls was when Lennox Lewis got fat, did movies, and forgot to train for Hasim Rahman in Africa.  Mega payout for a guy nobody gave a chance.
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    I've seen the money come in for the under knocking o9.5 down to -125 from -150 a few days ago.  Hard to tell what to expect from Indongo's form and I feel like the fight against Troyanovsky just exposed how empty a record Troyanovsky had.  I can't say I remember Crawford being stunned by any punches, and I can't say Indongo has faced anyone besides the aging Burns that had any power at all.

    Also I was wrong about the price on Indongo, it is +1300, the bigger whopper is the +2200 on Craig Baker taking on one of the Ukranian light heavy/crusiers.  Below that is +1500 on Fransisco Fonseca taking on Gervonta Davis.  So there's 3 insane underdogs coming up, none of which have a lot of angle to play.

    And I can't really say boxing is the worst sport to bet on, one of my biggest hauls was when Lennox Lewis got fat, did movies, and forgot to train for Hasim Rahman in Africa.  Mega payout for a guy nobody gave a chance.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 12:56 PM ET #7

    Lewis-rahman was 20 years ago. Sure you will find the odd live underdog or good spot but for the most part the A side will beat the B side.

    I bet on everything from boxing and MMA to futsal and curling. In no sport do you see as many enormous favorites as you do in boxing. Unless you are willing to lay huge numbers the opportunities in boxing are few and far between. That's why it is in my opinion bar none the worst sport to bet on and I'm saying this as a life long boxing fan and long time sports bettor.
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    Lewis-rahman was 20 years ago. Sure you will find the odd live underdog or good spot but for the most part the A side will beat the B side.

    I bet on everything from boxing and MMA to futsal and curling. In no sport do you see as many enormous favorites as you do in boxing. Unless you are willing to lay huge numbers the opportunities in boxing are few and far between. That's why it is in my opinion bar none the worst sport to bet on and I'm saying this as a life long boxing fan and long time sports bettor.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2017 - 10:12 PM ET #8

    I played Indongo+1250

    Fight will be closer than the odds saying i think.

    Only time will tell how smart or stupid this wager is but i never lay anything over -300 usually.
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    I played Indongo+1250

    Fight will be closer than the odds saying i think.

    Only time will tell how smart or stupid this wager is but i never lay anything over -300 usually.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 4:31 PM ET #9

    Bud is 4-5 levels above the trash Indongo has fought. Burns SUCKS. Indongo gets stopped here and made to look amateurish. Only Errol Spence and Keith Thurman can compete with Bud. Certainly no one at 140 lbs can.
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    Bud is 4-5 levels above the trash Indongo has fought. Burns SUCKS. Indongo gets stopped here and made to look amateurish. Only Errol Spence and Keith Thurman can compete with Bud. Certainly no one at 140 lbs can.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 9:32 PM ET #10

    Baker/Gvozdyk undercard fight o/u is now 6.5 -515u.  Baker has the profile of a guy who is going to get seriously injured in the first round, so that's something.

    Still hoping Indongo stands up for at least 10 rounds.  He's awkward and probably slots somewhere between Molina and Postol in terms of Crawford's opponents.  Just trying to find the intrigue for an otherwise dull card.
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    Baker/Gvozdyk undercard fight o/u is now 6.5 -515u.  Baker has the profile of a guy who is going to get seriously injured in the first round, so that's something.

    Still hoping Indongo stands up for at least 10 rounds.  He's awkward and probably slots somewhere between Molina and Postol in terms of Crawford's opponents.  Just trying to find the intrigue for an otherwise dull card.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 10:08 PM ET #11

    Crawford has been fighting more aggressively as he gets more and more mainstream. He looks to finish fights now because he can. And because that's how you become a star that makes real money. I expect nothing but another stoppage here. Indongo is really aggressive but sloppy. He will get caught.
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    Crawford has been fighting more aggressively as he gets more and more mainstream. He looks to finish fights now because he can. And because that's how you become a star that makes real money. I expect nothing but another stoppage here. Indongo is really aggressive but sloppy. He will get caught.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 10:44 PM ET #12

    Switched from US feed to the Sky one, just heard both groups of talking heads call Craig Baker a "tough" and "game" opponent.   Meanwhile Baker looks like he's high as a kite in the fighter interview.
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    Switched from US feed to the Sky one, just heard both groups of talking heads call Craig Baker a "tough" and "game" opponent.   Meanwhile Baker looks like he's high as a kite in the fighter interview.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Crawford has been fighting more aggressively as he gets more and more mainstream. He looks to finish fights now because he can. And because that's how you become a star that makes real money. I expect nothing but another stoppage here. Indongo is really aggressive but sloppy. He will get caught.

    Dont do it ... Crawford wants to stretch the fight out .. its going to the cards
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Crawford has been fighting more aggressively as he gets more and more mainstream. He looks to finish fights now because he can. And because that's how you become a star that makes real money. I expect nothing but another stoppage here. Indongo is really aggressive but sloppy. He will get caught.

    Dont do it ... Crawford wants to stretch the fight out .. its going to the cards
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 10:59 PM ET #14

    I swear it looks like Gvozdyk is pulling half of his punches.  Maybe it's my low-rent stream.
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    I swear it looks like Gvozdyk is pulling half of his punches.  Maybe it's my low-rent stream.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 11:40 PM ET #15

    Highly preditable main event. That wild man crap doesn't work against someone with the pristine counter punching power of Terrence Crawford.
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    Highly preditable main event. That wild man crap doesn't work against someone with the pristine counter punching power of Terrence Crawford.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 11:47 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by royboymiami:

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Crawford has been fighting more aggressively as he gets more and more mainstream. He looks to finish fights now because he can. And because that's how you become a star that makes real money. I expect nothing but another stoppage here. Indongo is really aggressive but sloppy. He will get caught.
    Dont do it ... Crawford wants to stretch the fight out .. its going to the cards


    You need to watch more boxing. Felix Diaz is better than Indongo. So is Postol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royboymiami:

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Crawford has been fighting more aggressively as he gets more and more mainstream. He looks to finish fights now because he can. And because that's how you become a star that makes real money. I expect nothing but another stoppage here. Indongo is really aggressive but sloppy. He will get caught.
    Dont do it ... Crawford wants to stretch the fight out .. its going to the cards


    You need to watch more boxing. Felix Diaz is better than Indongo. So is Postol.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2017 - 12:06 AM ET #17

    Those were some of the widest punches you could see in a year.  Indongo helping prove yet again that the boxing world needs less belts.


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    Those were some of the widest punches you could see in a year.  Indongo helping prove yet again that the boxing world needs less belts.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2017 - 12:43 AM ET #18

    If you had watched Indongo fight before you would see how amateurish and wild he is. He beat trash too. Not like his 2 supposed good wins were vs anyone of note.
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    If you had watched Indongo fight before you would see how amateurish and wild he is. He beat trash too. Not like his 2 supposed good wins were vs anyone of note.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2017 - 9:51 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Dont do it ... Crawford wants to stretch the fight out .. its going to the cards

    You need to watch more boxing. Felix Diaz is better than Indongo. So is Postol.

    trust me dude I watch A LOT of boxing .. way more than the casual boxing fan... Although I hadnt seen Indongo fight... just didnt see why Crawford would want an early ending, especially fighting in Nebraska but it is what it is. a win is a win.Despite yesterday im still not impressed by Crawford, same goes for Deontay Wilder.. they have been fighting trash....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Dont do it ... Crawford wants to stretch the fight out .. its going to the cards

    You need to watch more boxing. Felix Diaz is better than Indongo. So is Postol.

    trust me dude I watch A LOT of boxing .. way more than the casual boxing fan... Although I hadnt seen Indongo fight... just didnt see why Crawford would want an early ending, especially fighting in Nebraska but it is what it is. a win is a win.Despite yesterday im still not impressed by Crawford, same goes for Deontay Wilder.. they have been fighting trash....
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2017 - 10:11 PM ET #20

    Let me clarify , Crawford is not trash in my opinion... hes obviously beat some good fighters im just wanting to see him fight someone up there man .. Gamboa wouldve been him but he was doing coke in hialeah florida and thus declining.. he beat 

    Felix Diaz -  ehhhhh

    John Molina (possibly his toughest fight because of the weird style)

    Viktor Postol -  Hes alright he beat Lucas by KO
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    Let me clarify , Crawford is not trash in my opinion... hes obviously beat some good fighters im just wanting to see him fight someone up there man .. Gamboa wouldve been him but he was doing coke in hialeah florida and thus declining.. he beat 

    Felix Diaz -  ehhhhh

    John Molina (possibly his toughest fight because of the weird style)

    Viktor Postol -  Hes alright he beat Lucas by KO
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