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    Countdown to Pavlik-Taylor II

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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:03 AM ET #1

    This thread is for your plays and your reasons. I need something to do after such a disturbing night...
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    This thread is for your plays and your reasons. I need something to do after such a disturbing night...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:05 AM ET #2

    look at my thread of  the same name
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    look at my thread of  the same name
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:21 AM ET #3

    My initial lean is to bet 1xPavlik ITD (-115) and "insure" that bet with 2xPavlik to win (-175) .

    It's amazing to me that this line is not -300. I cannot believe the weight that is being given to the 2nd round knock down that occurred when KP dropped his hands and stuck his chin out. I can guarantee that he won't be giving anything away this time. After the 2nd round, we saw the fight that will occur Saturday night. Jermain will fight backing up with his left hand low, he will be punished by the hardest right hand in boxing this side of Wlad, and, eventually, he will be badly hurt and stopped.

    Jermain is fighting far too soon after being knocked out so emphatically and so brutally. When Roy Jones was stopped by Tarver, he fought again less than 5 months later, and he was stopped again in what was supposed to be a comeback tune up against Glen Johnson. Kelly's stoppage of Jermain was by far more damaging, and Jermain is attempting a return to the ring in a similar time frame against the same man that just annihilated him? 
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    My initial lean is to bet 1xPavlik ITD (-115) and "insure" that bet with 2xPavlik to win (-175) .

    It's amazing to me that this line is not -300. I cannot believe the weight that is being given to the 2nd round knock down that occurred when KP dropped his hands and stuck his chin out. I can guarantee that he won't be giving anything away this time. After the 2nd round, we saw the fight that will occur Saturday night. Jermain will fight backing up with his left hand low, he will be punished by the hardest right hand in boxing this side of Wlad, and, eventually, he will be badly hurt and stopped.

    Jermain is fighting far too soon after being knocked out so emphatically and so brutally. When Roy Jones was stopped by Tarver, he fought again less than 5 months later, and he was stopped again in what was supposed to be a comeback tune up against Glen Johnson. Kelly's stoppage of Jermain was by far more damaging, and Jermain is attempting a return to the ring in a similar time frame against the same man that just annihilated him? 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:23 AM ET #4

    where can i get round by round coverage online? what time does it start?
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    where can i get round by round coverage online? what time does it start?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:31 AM ET #5

    Next Saturday. HBO PPV.

    I'm interested to hear opinions on the catch weight of 166 for this fight. I think it's a non-factor, but it may allow Taylor to actually train less this time around.


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    Next Saturday. HBO PPV.

    I'm interested to hear opinions on the catch weight of 166 for this fight. I think it's a non-factor, but it may allow Taylor to actually train less this time around.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:44 AM ET #6

    i think Pavlik is gonna be stronger and hit harder at this weight
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    i think Pavlik is gonna be stronger and hit harder at this weight
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:45 AM ET #7

    Interesting that taylor is taking this Fight so quick after he got Knocked Out....Tough to go Against Pavlik because he Has the Stamina Edge and the longer the Fight lasts should favor Pavlik .. At the Same time Taylor almost Knocked Out Pavlik last Fight...
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    Interesting that taylor is taking this Fight so quick after he got Knocked Out....Tough to go Against Pavlik because he Has the Stamina Edge and the longer the Fight lasts should favor Pavlik .. At the Same time Taylor almost Knocked Out Pavlik last Fight...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:46 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by toady13:

    where can i get round by round coverage online? what time does it start?



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    Quote Originally Posted by toady13:

    where can i get round by round coverage online? what time does it start?



     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 1:09 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    i think Pavlik is gonna be stronger and hit harder at this weight


    Cosign. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    i think Pavlik is gonna be stronger and hit harder at this weight


    Cosign. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:50 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:


    It's amazing to me that this line is not -300. I cannot believe the weight that is being given to the 2nd round knock down that occurred when KP dropped his hands and stuck his chin out.

    I think one reason is the fact that pavlik was losing on all 3 judges scorecards when he knocked down jt.

    I agree here though, its entirely too soon history tells us we'll have a similair result and shorter fight if anything. I think JT comes in even worse than the first time if anything becuase of the loss of steward.

    cant wait for this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:


    It's amazing to me that this line is not -300. I cannot believe the weight that is being given to the 2nd round knock down that occurred when KP dropped his hands and stuck his chin out.

    I think one reason is the fact that pavlik was losing on all 3 judges scorecards when he knocked down jt.

    I agree here though, its entirely too soon history tells us we'll have a similair result and shorter fight if anything. I think JT comes in even worse than the first time if anything becuase of the loss of steward.

    cant wait for this one

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 12:52 PM ET #11

    biggest key in my mind is pavlik taking advantage of taylor's flaws. Those flaws in my opinion will only be emphasized with steward gone and pavlik gets it done early.
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    biggest key in my mind is pavlik taking advantage of taylor's flaws. Those flaws in my opinion will only be emphasized with steward gone and pavlik gets it done early.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 2:26 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeythebear:

    I think one reason is the fact that pavlik was losing on all 3 judges scorecards when he knocked down jt.

    I certainly had it scored differently, but I would guess KP gets a little more credit this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeythebear:

    I think one reason is the fact that pavlik was losing on all 3 judges scorecards when he knocked down jt.

    I certainly had it scored differently, but I would guess KP gets a little more credit this time around.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2008 - 2:57 PM ET #13

    true, judges usually tend to favor the champion and force the contender to take it. I had it closer than the judges scorecards but still had jt with a one pt lead.
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    true, judges usually tend to favor the champion and force the contender to take it. I had it closer than the judges scorecards but still had jt with a one pt lead.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2008 - 6:01 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeythebear:

    I think one reason is the fact that pavlik was losing on all 3 judges scorecards when he knocked down jt.

    I agree here though, its entirely too soon history tells us we'll have a similair result and shorter fight if anything. I think JT comes in even worse than the first time if anything becuase of the loss of steward.

    cant wait for this one

    Those judges are what is wrong with boxing middle of the 4th rnd KP started dominating Taylor easily.Hitting him with 2 and 3 jabs and huge right hands. The judges were prob in Dibellas pocket(fuck him) the good thing was JT went nighty night
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeythebear:

    I think one reason is the fact that pavlik was losing on all 3 judges scorecards when he knocked down jt.

    I agree here though, its entirely too soon history tells us we'll have a similair result and shorter fight if anything. I think JT comes in even worse than the first time if anything becuase of the loss of steward.

    cant wait for this one

    Those judges are what is wrong with boxing middle of the 4th rnd KP started dominating Taylor easily.Hitting him with 2 and 3 jabs and huge right hands. The judges were prob in Dibellas pocket(fuck him) the good thing was JT went nighty night
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2008 - 7:44 PM ET #15

    I can tell you Jermain will not be winning a decision in this fight if he gets hit like that again.
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    I can tell you Jermain will not be winning a decision in this fight if he gets hit like that again.
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