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Miguel Cotto defends his WBO welterweight title in what looks an intriguing match-up against Joshua Clottey in New York on Saturday night, and the Puerto Rican superstar shouldn't want for support in the Big Apple.

33-1 (27) Cotto is the man the fans will flock to see on Puerto Rican Day weekend at Madison Square Garden as he continues his rehabilitation following that crushing loss to Antonio Margarito last summer.

Margarito stopped Cotto after 11 titanic, mesmerising rounds in Las Vegas last July but it's a defeat that still rankles with the Caguas star in light of Margarito's subsequent suspension over substances found in his hand wraps before a fight earlier this year with Shane Mosley.

He has since rebounded with a win over overmatched Brit Michael Jennings but the 28-year-old former Olympian faces a real acid test here against former IBF welterweight strap holder Clottey.

The man they call 'The Grand Master' has lost just two fights in 37 pro outings and crucially has never been off his feet in a pro career that began back on the mean streets of Accra, Ghana in 1995.

One of those defeats was a disqualification loss to Carlos Baldomir and indeed the only man to beat him legitimately was Margarito, who won a close but unanimous decision over the African in 2006.

Clottey's people and NuttyRich :-) feel they are getting Cotto at the right time in light of the recent personal problems Miguel has been facing.

In April this year he reportedly came to blows with his uncle and long-time trainer Evangelista Cotto after a training session, with the latter allegedly throwing a cement block through the window of Miguel's Jaguar!

No charges were brought but Evangelista has since been replaced by Joe Santiago, who previously worked in Cotto's camp as a nutritionist and conditioning coach.

Santiago is untested as a top-level coach and so it remains to be seen how Cotto will approach what looks, on paper at least, to be a very dangerous assignment.

Clottey stopped Zab Judah on cuts in his last fight and he also holds wins over the late Diego Corrales, suggesting he clearly belongs in this sort of class.

He is the type of fighter who isn't particularly eye-catching but who does most things well. He is ultra-solid, always in tremendous shape and will fight you for three minutes of every round.

Clottey is not a particularly concussive hitter (just 20 wins inside schedule) but he is the type of fighter who walks opponents down and breaks their will in a fight. He did this against Judah last time out, busting Zab's nose and slicing open his eye before claiming a ninth-round technical decision.

Exactly two years ago this weekend of course Cotto himself put in arguably a career-best shift to stop Judah in 11 rounds at the very venue where Saturday's action will be played out.

Since then Miguel has beaten Mosley, Alfonso Gomez and Jennings as well as suffering that Margarito loss.

He has grown into a huge, physically imposing welterweight and I think Clottey will be shocked at just how strong Cotto is and how hard he punches.

Cotto has a KO percentage ratio approaching 80% and that's impressive considering he has been mixing in legitimate world class for more than five years.

The general consensus in the trade is that Cotto, best price -300 for victory, will have to grind out a decision win, but I have a feeling he may be about to become the first man to stop the Ghanaian so I am going to put a small saver on this outcome...

Clottey is rugged and dangerous but he can be outboxed and, crucially, he isn't that elusive. Cotto punches with authority with either glove and his left hook downstairs is a particularly potent weapon.

If Clottey comes for a tear-up, which I have a feeling he might, it could be a real war but for me the man with the major artillery in this one is Cotto.

The Puerto Rican is +275 to win inside the distance with Ladbrokes (best I value I have seen for this bet) and given the same bet is as short as +180 elsewhere that definitely looks a spot of value.

I wouldn't put off bettors going for the Cotto decision but My Plays are...

4 star play -> 3k Miguel Cotto to win 1k (-300). Main recommendation

1 star play -> Cotto to win by knockout, 200 dollars to win 575 (+275)

Good Luck all.

 

 
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I can see him winning, but I can't see myself backing Cotto after the Margarito devastation. The weigh in could be telling. You are the first person I have read saying Cotto is too big for Clottey. My fear in the dog side is that the cards are already fixed, and you never know with two Top Rank fighters whether this is actually a competitive match or not. I remember watching Clottey-Margarito and thinking the outcome had been predetermined.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

I can see him winning, but I can't see myself backing Cotto after the Margarito devastation. The weigh in could be telling. You are the first person I have read saying Cotto is too big for Clottey. My fear in the dog side is that the cards are already fixed, and you never know with two Top Rank fighters whether this is actually a competitive match or not. I remember watching Clottey-Margarito and thinking the outcome had been predetermined.


That would explain why Cotto is taking this opponent given the piss poor circumstances.

What promoter in their right mind would sandwich a match with a completely competent fighter like Clottey when looking ahead at a possible mega fight with Pacman/Mayweather in the near future?

The circus surrounding the brawl with his uncle still doesn't sit right with me either. Everything about this fight screams letdown for Cotto. Unless......
 
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Thanks for the great writeup.  If Cotto does win by KO, I just hope it's o9.5 rounds.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

Miguel Cotto defends his WBO welterweight title in what looks an intriguing match-up against Joshua Clottey in New York on Saturday night, and the Puerto Rican superstar shouldn't want for support in the Big Apple.

33-1 (27) Cotto is the man the fans will flock to see on Puerto Rican Day weekend at Madison Square Garden as he continues his rehabilitation following that crushing loss to Antonio Margarito last summer.

Margarito stopped Cotto after 11 titanic, mesmerising rounds in Las Vegas last July but it's a defeat that still rankles with the Caguas star in light of Margarito's subsequent suspension over substances found in his hand wraps before a fight earlier this year with Shane Mosley.

He has since rebounded with a win over overmatched Brit Michael Jennings but the 28-year-old former Olympian faces a real acid test here against former IBF welterweight strap holder Clottey.

The man they call 'The Grand Master' has lost just two fights in 37 pro outings and crucially has never been off his feet in a pro career that began back on the mean streets of Accra, Ghana in 1995.

One of those defeats was a disqualification loss to Carlos Baldomir and indeed the only man to beat him legitimately was Margarito, who won a close but unanimous decision over the African in 2006.

Clottey's people and NuttyRich :-) feel they are getting Cotto at the right time in light of the recent personal problems Miguel has been facing.

In April this year he reportedly came to blows with his uncle and long-time trainer Evangelista Cotto after a training session, with the latter allegedly throwing a cement block through the window of Miguel's Jaguar!

No charges were brought but Evangelista has since been replaced by Joe Santiago, who previously worked in Cotto's camp as a nutritionist and conditioning coach.

Santiago is untested as a top-level coach and so it remains to be seen how Cotto will approach what looks, on paper at least, to be a very dangerous assignment.

Clottey stopped Zab Judah on cuts in his last fight and he also holds wins over the late Diego Corrales, suggesting he clearly belongs in this sort of class.

He is the type of fighter who isn't particularly eye-catching but who does most things well. He is ultra-solid, always in tremendous shape and will fight you for three minutes of every round.

Clottey is not a particularly concussive hitter (just 20 wins inside schedule) but he is the type of fighter who walks opponents down and breaks their will in a fight. He did this against Judah last time out, busting Zab's nose and slicing open his eye before claiming a ninth-round technical decision.

Exactly two years ago this weekend of course Cotto himself put in arguably a career-best shift to stop Judah in 11 rounds at the very venue where Saturday's action will be played out.

Since then Miguel has beaten Mosley, Alfonso Gomez and Jennings as well as suffering that Margarito loss.

He has grown into a huge, physically imposing welterweight and I think Clottey will be shocked at just how strong Cotto is and how hard he punches.

Cotto has a KO percentage ratio approaching 80% and that's impressive considering he has been mixing in legitimate world class for more than five years.

The general consensus in the trade is that Cotto, best price -300 for victory, will have to grind out a decision win, but I have a feeling he may be about to become the first man to stop the Ghanaian so I am going to put a small saver on this outcome...

Clottey is rugged and dangerous but he can be outboxed and, crucially, he isn't that elusive. Cotto punches with authority with either glove and his left hook downstairs is a particularly potent weapon.

If Clottey comes for a tear-up, which I have a feeling he might, it could be a real war but for me the man with the major artillery in this one is Cotto.

The Puerto Rican is +275 to win inside the distance with Ladbrokes (best I value I have seen for this bet) and given the same bet is as short as +180 elsewhere that definitely looks a spot of value.

I wouldn't put off bettors going for the Cotto decision but My Plays are...

4 star play -> 3k Miguel Cotto to win 1k (-300). Main recommendation

1 star play -> Cotto to win by knockout, 200 dollars to win 575 (+275)

Good Luck all.

 



Wow the line must be dropping quickly! -300 is well at least a tad bit more normal. Given the Arena and fan support and being the media doll I would say Cotto -200. If this was NOT in MSG and the "loaded gloves" issue didn't come up I would see this as maybe -145 for Cotto because of this name.

My dad feels who is a fight fan for decades says the only way Clottey can lose is the score cards are already filled out.

I don't believe that, I believe if it does go to a decision it will go to Cotto every single close round will go to him w/o a doubt.

Where I believe many will be surprised is how Cotto cannot fight going backwards or "still" needs to be planted or moving forward.

I believe this fight will end in a KO, hopefully it will be Cotto quitting for a second time.

This was an amazing write up, you really took your time and delivered an unbiased write up. Top class write up and even better you didn't take the obvious (the decision). 

The best thing is we both believe high odds are one man won't be standing.. does it get any better than this?

Good luck my friend, Kudos on the write up!
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Nice read. Thanks.
 
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Great write-up and great rebuttals. 
 
Two terrific body punchers will make this inside the distance.
 
The tanks will be empty by the 9th.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



Wow the line must be dropping quickly! -300 is well at least a tad bit more normal. Given the Arena and fan support and being the media doll I would say Cotto -200. If this was NOT in MSG and the "loaded gloves" issue didn't come up I would see this as maybe -145 for Cotto because of this name.

My dad feels who is a fight fan for decades says the only way Clottey can lose is the score cards are already filled out.

I don't believe that, I believe if it does go to a decision it will go to Cotto every single close round will go to him w/o a doubt.

Where I believe many will be surprised is how Cotto cannot fight going backwards or "still" needs to be planted or moving forward.

I believe this fight will end in a KO, hopefully it will be Cotto quitting for a second time.

This was an amazing write up, you really took your time and delivered an unbiased write up. Top class write up and even better you didn't take the obvious (the decision). 

The best thing is we both believe high odds are one man won't be standing.. does it get any better than this?

Good luck my friend, Kudos on the write up!
                      Rich

said the same thing yesterday...goodwrite up and glad we are on the same side....

 

 
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Mack, gl with your plays. I'm on Cotto, but I can't pick an outcome. Decision does seem a little square, but I would be stunned to see Clottey stopped.
 
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Ok I lost the stoppage bet but I am happy to make 800 dollars profit on a questionable, messy fight!!! Keeps my streak going
 
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Congrats brother.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

Ok I lost the stoppage bet but I am happy to make 800 dollars profit on a questionable, messy fight!!! Keeps my streak going


Even though I thought Clottey won the fight, by a point or worst a draw. He fought not as aggressive, he fought as if he was the home favorite and the judges were on his side the last two rounds.

Congrats my friend, it was a sloppy ring and fight, but all that matters is the "W"
 
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I think Clottley would have to be something special to beat Cotto on a decision, considering where the fight was being held and the weekend that was in it. I thought overall Clottley won the fight but for some reason went to sleep in the last 3-4 rounds when he was clearly on top in the middle rounds (besides that strange round 6) and should have pushed on..The cut had a big effect on the fight so it's hard to know if Cotto would have won more convincingly without it. I admire Cotto alot after this fight. The guy is a warrior and pure box office.
 
This fight reminds me so much of Hopkins v Calzaghe. I thought Hopkins won that fight 114-113 but how can these fighters complain when the result goes against them when their workrate disappears for the final 4 rounds!
 
Ok JMM v Mayweather next up. I will be on pretty boy's side, probably decision. Wlad and Chagaev hmmmmmm boring
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

I think Clottley would have to be something special to beat Cotto on a decision, considering where the fight was being held and the weekend that was in it. I thought overall Clottley won the fight but for some reason went to sleep in the last 3-4 rounds when he was clearly on top in the middle rounds (besides that strange round 6) and should have pushed on..The cut had a big effect on the fight so it's hard to know if Cotto would have won more convincingly without it. I admire Cotto alot after this fight. The guy is a warrior and pure box office.
 
This fight reminds me so much of Hopkins v Calzaghe. I thought Hopkins won that fight 114-113 but how can these fighters complain when the result goes against them when their workrate disappears for the final 4 rounds!
 
Ok JMM v Mayweather next up. I will be on pretty boy's side, probably decision. Wlad and Chagaev hmmmmmm boring


I certainly agree my friend called me saying he got robbed that Clottey won by 4 points.

I told him no you didn't get robbed and he didn't win by 4 points.

I told him (he wagered before I did) (I emailed him my write up) I said you know he was fighting in MSG day before PR day parade and Cotto is the PPV fighter.

Just because YOU (meaning him) love boxing and know Clotteys fights better than saying the average public because most only get to see PPV events or HBO/showtime events. The public sees Clottey as some unknown thrown in there.

He said he watched it 3 times and still had Clottey up by four. I then said to him.. forget the score, see the last two rounds Clottey was up yes but see what he did in the last two rounds.

Did he do bad no? Did he fight like a guy who wanted it more... NO.. he fought as if he was ahead on the score cards and fighting in MSG knowing you need to win VERY convincingly and he didn't do that.

No does that mean Clottey should have lost no.. because he would have lost by 1 point, but Clottey didn't know that.

After round 6 it was Clottey's fight to LOSE he had Cotto hurt and backing up and should have finished him.

Even though I had Clottey winning in the end by a point even a draw (given the judging) I didn't say "robbery" because I knew coming into the fight taking 3-1 that this was how it COULD unfold.

If this was an even money fight I would have been upset but I knew Clottey was a very live dog, and the better overall fighter.. but all that means nothing you must factor in everything.

The fight was NO robbery besides the 116-11 score, BOTH fighters got what they wanted. Cotto shows he can be hit and still be there at the end, leaving MANY fighters wanting him.

Clottey got his name in there and showed people he was no "toss in" fighter before the P.R day parade in the Garden. He will now get some money fights (that he deserves).

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Why do they pick these crappy judges to judge these high profile fights. The first idiot judge who had it 116-111 was the same moron who had it 10 points ahead for Cotto when he fought Judah. Why would they throw him into this fight?? They need to seriously consider doing the live scoring when they announce the scores of each round. Could Clottey have done more to win? Yes But even if he won rds 10, 11, and 12 he still only would have wound up with a draw! Bullshit!! I want to find that judge and each his heart and stomp on his testacles because thats the kind of pain I felt after watching this fight.
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