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    Canello-Kirkland

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    Posted: May. 9, 2015 - 8:13 AM ET #1

    This should be a good scrap

    I lean Canello, but Kirkland no slouch. .. would have liked to see Ann Wolf in his corner.. think he would have had a better shot with her guidance [and slapping him the face between rounds lol]

    Still researching bets.... what is o/u? I feel Kirkland is not disciplined enough to box and will turn it into a slugfest...
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    This should be a good scrap

    I lean Canello, but Kirkland no slouch. .. would have liked to see Ann Wolf in his corner.. think he would have had a better shot with her guidance [and slapping him the face between rounds lol]

    Still researching bets.... what is o/u? I feel Kirkland is not disciplined enough to box and will turn it into a slugfest...
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2015 - 2:46 PM ET #2

    O/U 9.5 ROUNDS.... I LIKE THIS UNDER... FEEL THE PACE IS GOING TO BE PUSHED....
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    O/U 9.5 ROUNDS.... I LIKE THIS UNDER... FEEL THE PACE IS GOING TO BE PUSHED....
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2015 - 6:32 PM ET #3

    I like canelo by ko 
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    I like canelo by ko 
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2015 - 11:00 PM ET #4

    knock out .... great fight
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    knock out .... great fight
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2015 - 8:50 AM ET #5

    Great fight!  Brutal pace set by Kirkland right from the get go! And VISCOUS KO!
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    Great fight!  Brutal pace set by Kirkland right from the get go! And VISCOUS KO!
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2015 - 6:38 PM ET #6

    looks like four in this division ready to step up triple g canello , khan and cotto ready to start getting down to a title shot against money mayweather, I do not believe mayweather will accept the opponents and rather just have the belts stripped from him But canello previous beaten by mayweather has serious Talent his sharpness improved and 46 battles under his belt has a great chance at rematch, triple g 32-0 with 29 knockouts looking to make a few dollars himself I believe has the best chance at cornering floyd and getting through the defenses ,
    khan is schedualed for september, but i am in a wait and see about that, cotto the toughest row to ho is on a comback to a tiltle shot and probably needs three more fights till he can achieve a big event.


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    looks like four in this division ready to step up triple g canello , khan and cotto ready to start getting down to a title shot against money mayweather, I do not believe mayweather will accept the opponents and rather just have the belts stripped from him But canello previous beaten by mayweather has serious Talent his sharpness improved and 46 battles under his belt has a great chance at rematch, triple g 32-0 with 29 knockouts looking to make a few dollars himself I believe has the best chance at cornering floyd and getting through the defenses ,
    khan is schedualed for september, but i am in a wait and see about that, cotto the toughest row to ho is on a comback to a tiltle shot and probably needs three more fights till he can achieve a big event.


     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2015 - 1:06 AM ET #7

    All them guys would get owned by Mayweather and Canelo would look like an average Joe again just like the first fight.


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    All them guys would get owned by Mayweather and Canelo would look like an average Joe again just like the first fight.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    All them guys would get owned by Mayweather and Canelo would look like an average Joe again just like the first fight.


    after the first fight canello gave  mayweather tooo much respect after seeing the war kirkland put down he was tapping him he was wailing canello weathered a won now mayweather and going to stand there and trade but i believe triple ggg is ready for this fight canello is going to be ready if he gets triple ggg first but i dont believe mayweather will fight either of these men.

    and if they do this there will be a round robin of fights canello vs cotto and triple ggg vs khan before a mega  money mayweather battle could compete with the purse pacman mayweather pulled in

    But the performance against pacman makes me believe he can be beat. running scared for 12 rounds with pot shots from outside is okay but I dont believe he could pull off the rope a dope vs canellos upper cut now two years is a long time for a fighter to think of his only loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    All them guys would get owned by Mayweather and Canelo would look like an average Joe again just like the first fight.


    after the first fight canello gave  mayweather tooo much respect after seeing the war kirkland put down he was tapping him he was wailing canello weathered a won now mayweather and going to stand there and trade but i believe triple ggg is ready for this fight canello is going to be ready if he gets triple ggg first but i dont believe mayweather will fight either of these men.

    and if they do this there will be a round robin of fights canello vs cotto and triple ggg vs khan before a mega  money mayweather battle could compete with the purse pacman mayweather pulled in

    But the performance against pacman makes me believe he can be beat. running scared for 12 rounds with pot shots from outside is okay but I dont believe he could pull off the rope a dope vs canellos upper cut now two years is a long time for a fighter to think of his only loss.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2015 - 2:17 AM ET #9

    Canelo is still way too slow...

    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    Canelo is still way too slow...

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2015 - 9:38 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    after the first fight canello gave  mayweather tooo much respect after seeing the war kirkland put down he was tapping him he was wailing canello weathered a won now mayweather and going to stand there and trade but i believe triple ggg is ready for this fight canello is going to be ready if he gets triple ggg first but i dont believe mayweather will fight either of these men.

    and if they do this there will be a round robin of fights canello vs cotto and triple ggg vs khan before a mega  money mayweather battle could compete with the purse pacman mayweather pulled in

    But the performance against pacman makes me believe he can be beat. running scared for 12 rounds with pot shots from outside is okay but I dont believe he could pull off the rope a dope vs canellos upper cut now two years is a long time for a fighter to think of his only loss.


    Canelo is way too slow.Floyd sat in the pocket and punished him. Would be more of the same. Khan fighting GGG is a a matchup that will never happen. GGG is a middleweight , Khan a welter. Canelo needs to move up to middleweight and stop fighting in his made up weight class. If Cotto handle Gaele then we Cotto/Canelo. Winner of that should fight GGG in May 2016 but Oscar is talking 2 years before he allows Canelo to fight him. Khan needs to fight the top tier in his division (Thurman,Brook etc.) Ever since he got KO'd by Garcia hes been fighting light hitter. I cant wait for Floyd and Manny to retire so these guys can actually attempt to build themselves instead of taking little risk fights just to get a payday.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    after the first fight canello gave  mayweather tooo much respect after seeing the war kirkland put down he was tapping him he was wailing canello weathered a won now mayweather and going to stand there and trade but i believe triple ggg is ready for this fight canello is going to be ready if he gets triple ggg first but i dont believe mayweather will fight either of these men.

    and if they do this there will be a round robin of fights canello vs cotto and triple ggg vs khan before a mega  money mayweather battle could compete with the purse pacman mayweather pulled in

    But the performance against pacman makes me believe he can be beat. running scared for 12 rounds with pot shots from outside is okay but I dont believe he could pull off the rope a dope vs canellos upper cut now two years is a long time for a fighter to think of his only loss.


    Canelo is way too slow.Floyd sat in the pocket and punished him. Would be more of the same. Khan fighting GGG is a a matchup that will never happen. GGG is a middleweight , Khan a welter. Canelo needs to move up to middleweight and stop fighting in his made up weight class. If Cotto handle Gaele then we Cotto/Canelo. Winner of that should fight GGG in May 2016 but Oscar is talking 2 years before he allows Canelo to fight him. Khan needs to fight the top tier in his division (Thurman,Brook etc.) Ever since he got KO'd by Garcia hes been fighting light hitter. I cant wait for Floyd and Manny to retire so these guys can actually attempt to build themselves instead of taking little risk fights just to get a payday.  
     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2015 - 12:32 AM ET #11

    Glad others agree.

    Knocking out a no name headcase) is total diff story from fighting Mayweather. Night and Day!!!
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    Glad others agree.

    Knocking out a no name headcase) is total diff story from fighting Mayweather. Night and Day!!!
     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2015 - 1:25 PM ET #12

    If they do this there will be a round robin of fights.
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    If they do this there will be a round robin of fights.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2015 - 8:09 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by book21star:



    Canelo is way too slow.Floyd sat in the pocket and punished him. Would be more of the same. Khan fighting GGG is a a matchup that will never happen. GGG is a middleweight , Khan a welter. Canelo needs to move up to middleweight and stop fighting in his made up weight class. If Cotto handle Gaele then we Cotto/Canelo. Winner of that should fight GGG in May 2016 but Oscar is talking 2 years before he allows Canelo to fight him. Khan needs to fight the top tier in his division (Thurman,Brook etc.) Ever since he got KO'd by Garcia hes been fighting light hitter. I cant wait for Floyd and Manny to retire so these guys can actually attempt to build themselves instead of taking little risk fights just to get a payday.  

    moving 5 lbs up is not that big of a deal.
     it isnt like moving from a lt weight to middle. I do understand mayweather wont stand and trade shots with any of these guys, But like Roy Jones He can win as long as he stays quick , once mayweather age catches him and he starts to slow down he cant but mayweather needs two more fights to make the magic 50-0 canello has nearly the same number of fights and is only 24 , Canello could easily hit the 100 wins column within next 16 years.

    He already said pacman rematch will not happen does he lose the belts and opt for less competetion to make the 50-0 or does he just hang the gloves up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by book21star:



    Canelo is way too slow.Floyd sat in the pocket and punished him. Would be more of the same. Khan fighting GGG is a a matchup that will never happen. GGG is a middleweight , Khan a welter. Canelo needs to move up to middleweight and stop fighting in his made up weight class. If Cotto handle Gaele then we Cotto/Canelo. Winner of that should fight GGG in May 2016 but Oscar is talking 2 years before he allows Canelo to fight him. Khan needs to fight the top tier in his division (Thurman,Brook etc.) Ever since he got KO'd by Garcia hes been fighting light hitter. I cant wait for Floyd and Manny to retire so these guys can actually attempt to build themselves instead of taking little risk fights just to get a payday.  

    moving 5 lbs up is not that big of a deal.
     it isnt like moving from a lt weight to middle. I do understand mayweather wont stand and trade shots with any of these guys, But like Roy Jones He can win as long as he stays quick , once mayweather age catches him and he starts to slow down he cant but mayweather needs two more fights to make the magic 50-0 canello has nearly the same number of fights and is only 24 , Canello could easily hit the 100 wins column within next 16 years.

    He already said pacman rematch will not happen does he lose the belts and opt for less competetion to make the 50-0 or does he just hang the gloves up.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    moving 5 lbs up is not that big of a deal.
     it isnt like moving from a lt weight to middle. I do understand mayweather wont stand and trade shots with any of these guys, But like Roy Jones He can win as long as he stays quick , once mayweather age catches him and he starts to slow down he cant but mayweather needs two more fights to make the magic 50-0 canello has nearly the same number of fights and is only 24 , Canello could easily hit the 100 wins column within next 16 years.

    He already said pacman rematch will not happen does he lose the belts and opt for less competetion to make the 50-0 or does he just hang the gloves up.


    You're talking as if Floyd wants to fight until he is 50. Another year from now will not really make that much of a difference from what we see him do right now unless he all of sudden gets old overnight but Floyd Mayweather is a GYM RAT so even tho he is 37 he works out and feel 30.

    He already said he is given up the belst before his next fight so looks like he won't be defending anymore titles for rest of his career if he stay true to his word.

    Far as Canelo go how may big names of that 40+ were worth mentioning about? Yea that Kirkland ko was impressive but Kirkland was 31-1 or something but is is no way and elite fighter to brag about. Most of the top name would knock him out as well.

    Alot of people have impressive records fighting bottom of the barrel pro fighters but all that matters is what you do vs the elite top fighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    moving 5 lbs up is not that big of a deal.
     it isnt like moving from a lt weight to middle. I do understand mayweather wont stand and trade shots with any of these guys, But like Roy Jones He can win as long as he stays quick , once mayweather age catches him and he starts to slow down he cant but mayweather needs two more fights to make the magic 50-0 canello has nearly the same number of fights and is only 24 , Canello could easily hit the 100 wins column within next 16 years.

    He already said pacman rematch will not happen does he lose the belts and opt for less competetion to make the 50-0 or does he just hang the gloves up.


    You're talking as if Floyd wants to fight until he is 50. Another year from now will not really make that much of a difference from what we see him do right now unless he all of sudden gets old overnight but Floyd Mayweather is a GYM RAT so even tho he is 37 he works out and feel 30.

    He already said he is given up the belst before his next fight so looks like he won't be defending anymore titles for rest of his career if he stay true to his word.

    Far as Canelo go how may big names of that 40+ were worth mentioning about? Yea that Kirkland ko was impressive but Kirkland was 31-1 or something but is is no way and elite fighter to brag about. Most of the top name would knock him out as well.

    Alot of people have impressive records fighting bottom of the barrel pro fighters but all that matters is what you do vs the elite top fighters.
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