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    Boxing: MAURICIO HERRERA +800

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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 9:48 PM ET #1

    Didn't do a deep study like usual on this fight.
    RUSLAN PROVODNIKOV vs MAURICIO HERRERA.

    Herrera +800 (0.5 Units)
    Over 7 Rnds -130 (2.5 Units)

    I feel an over, Ruslan has fought many journey-men. So I don't know if too much of that will slow him down. That's why the over and Herrera for a shot.

     

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    Didn't do a deep study like usual on this fight.
    RUSLAN PROVODNIKOV vs MAURICIO HERRERA.

    Herrera +800 (0.5 Units)
    Over 7 Rnds -130 (2.5 Units)

    I feel an over, Ruslan has fought many journey-men. So I don't know if too much of that will slow him down. That's why the over and Herrera for a shot.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 10:15 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 10:35 PM ET #3

    herrera  dont have a chance ruslan too sharp .  gl
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    herrera  dont have a chance ruslan too sharp .  gl
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:02 AM ET #4

    Up 2.0 Units w/ freeroll on the final decision.
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    Up 2.0 Units w/ freeroll on the final decision.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:05 AM ET #5

    I had the over for 2.5...if I lose Herrera it's only 0.5. I profit 2 units.... or 6.5 Units total!
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    I had the over for 2.5...if I lose Herrera it's only 0.5. I profit 2 units.... or 6.5 Units total!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:10 AM ET #6

    Ruslan sharp? where? at not jabbing? at throwing wild lead power punches?

    sunset: What is Ruslan sharp at????  Dancing?

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    Ruslan sharp? where? at not jabbing? at throwing wild lead power punches?

    sunset: What is Ruslan sharp at????  Dancing?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #7

    Congrats!
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    Congrats!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:51 AM ET #8

    Thanks. I felt it was 50/50 fight, depends on judges and if they want punches, accuracy, etc, in a tough fight. That's a type of fight I call a draw rematch. They both fought hard, although it might not seem that way because they lack so many technicals. They should allow these fighters to rematch and get paid a 3 to 4 times as much. Hope I gave a 9-1 shot winner to someone!

    CHEESE

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    Thanks. I felt it was 50/50 fight, depends on judges and if they want punches, accuracy, etc, in a tough fight. That's a type of fight I call a draw rematch. They both fought hard, although it might not seem that way because they lack so many technicals. They should allow these fighters to rematch and get paid a 3 to 4 times as much. Hope I gave a 9-1 shot winner to someone!

    CHEESE

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:29 PM ET #9

    My sportsbook had Herrera losing - lol. They forgot his younger brother fought earlier before him and lost.
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    My sportsbook had Herrera losing - lol. They forgot his younger brother fought earlier before him and lost.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2011 - 7:37 PM ET #10

    Nice hit.  Herrera displayed incredible courage to keep going with that eggplant on his eye. 
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    Nice hit.  Herrera displayed incredible courage to keep going with that eggplant on his eye. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2011 - 10:34 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Strykor:

    Thanks. I felt it was 50/50 fight, depends on judges and if they want punches, accuracy, etc, in a tough fight. That's a type of fight I call a draw rematch. They both fought hard, although it might not seem that way because they lack so many technicals. They should allow these fighters to rematch and get paid a 3 to 4 times as much. Hope I gave a 9-1 shot winner to someone!

    CHEESE



    Provodnikov would win the rematch 9/10 times, maybe more. Also, his camp will avoid fighters like Herrera like the plague. His next half dozen fights will be nothing more than showcase stoppages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykor:

    Thanks. I felt it was 50/50 fight, depends on judges and if they want punches, accuracy, etc, in a tough fight. That's a type of fight I call a draw rematch. They both fought hard, although it might not seem that way because they lack so many technicals. They should allow these fighters to rematch and get paid a 3 to 4 times as much. Hope I gave a 9-1 shot winner to someone!

    CHEESE



    Provodnikov would win the rematch 9/10 times, maybe more. Also, his camp will avoid fighters like Herrera like the plague. His next half dozen fights will be nothing more than showcase stoppages.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2011 - 10:49 AM ET #12

    Provodnikov way over-rated.... it showed. Scoring coulda went either, but he lacks fundamentals! I thought +800 was steal! WATCH who they fought prior!
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    Provodnikov way over-rated.... it showed. Scoring coulda went either, but he lacks fundamentals! I thought +800 was steal! WATCH who they fought prior!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykor:

    Provodnikov way over-rated.... it showed. Scoring coulda went either, but he lacks fundamentals! I thought +800 was steal! WATCH who they fought prior!

    Doesn't matter. It was a perfect storm of circumstances. Those pitty pat jabs from Herrera on Provodnikov's previously injured eye were just enough to change the fight. Also, Provodnikov didn't appear to have his lungs with him, as he was sucking air by the third round. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykor:

    Provodnikov way over-rated.... it showed. Scoring coulda went either, but he lacks fundamentals! I thought +800 was steal! WATCH who they fought prior!

    Doesn't matter. It was a perfect storm of circumstances. Those pitty pat jabs from Herrera on Provodnikov's previously injured eye were just enough to change the fight. Also, Provodnikov didn't appear to have his lungs with him, as he was sucking air by the third round. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2011 - 8:23 PM ET #14

    And...? So you are saying that you think a rematch, you will easily lay -1000 for Provodnikov???

    I was maybe 8 years old when I was told when betting NFL, with 2 bad teams, take the points. 2 mediocre fighters, take a HUGE overlay. You can't beat solid fundamentals against lackers. So,  now winning over and fight, I'm way ahead this year already. Made a 100 3 team cross sports parlay (with Herrera) into $19k+. I didn't flat the +1000 soccer team big, parlayed them with Barcelnoa even money giving 2 and over 3 goals.

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    And...? So you are saying that you think a rematch, you will easily lay -1000 for Provodnikov???

    I was maybe 8 years old when I was told when betting NFL, with 2 bad teams, take the points. 2 mediocre fighters, take a HUGE overlay. You can't beat solid fundamentals against lackers. So,  now winning over and fight, I'm way ahead this year already. Made a 100 3 team cross sports parlay (with Herrera) into $19k+. I didn't flat the +1000 soccer team big, parlayed them with Barcelnoa even money giving 2 and over 3 goals.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2011 - 8:43 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Strykor:

    And...? So you are saying that you think a rematch, you will easily lay -1000 for Provodnikov???

    I was maybe 8 years old when I was told when betting NFL, with 2 bad teams, take the points. 2 mediocre fighters, take a HUGE overlay. You can't beat solid fundamentals against lackers. So,  now winning over and fight, I'm way ahead this year already. Made a 100 3 team cross sports parlay (with Herrera) into $19k+. I didn't flat the +1000 soccer team big, parlayed them with Barcelnoa even money giving 2 and over 3 goals.


    No, but I would lay -500 in a heartbeat. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykor:

    And...? So you are saying that you think a rematch, you will easily lay -1000 for Provodnikov???

    I was maybe 8 years old when I was told when betting NFL, with 2 bad teams, take the points. 2 mediocre fighters, take a HUGE overlay. You can't beat solid fundamentals against lackers. So,  now winning over and fight, I'm way ahead this year already. Made a 100 3 team cross sports parlay (with Herrera) into $19k+. I didn't flat the +1000 soccer team big, parlayed them with Barcelnoa even money giving 2 and over 3 goals.


    No, but I would lay -500 in a heartbeat. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2011 - 11:25 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    Provodnikov would win the rematch 9/10 times, maybe more. Also, his camp will avoid fighters like Herrera like the plague. His next half dozen fights will be nothing more than showcase stoppages.

    Walk the line. I know you have some good analysis (not sarchasm here), but your statement doesn't add up. If Prov win 90% of the time, then laying -800 in your estimation is a +EV bet. -700 is great value according to your statement. You should be willing to wager any large overlay in a heartbeat, and Prov -750 would be to win $100 is overlaying you $135 per fight. That's very large. Most posters would reply, they weren't considering draws, or stoppage... even if that it would have to be 40% of their matches prov loses to a cut early (similar, swelling,etc) and draws. Think about it. I'm meticulous about my math and overlays and I can say, in 20 years, picking a large number of fights, not only do I believe I have a top percentage of all, my big dogs and prop bets are near the top in units earned (all units being equal). Boxing, Poker, Soccer, & I use to College Hoops Big (even had tout service). I had complaints because I only gave bets maybe 3 days and a total of 9 games. They wanted an action tout, I collected after winning week. $50 a week was my fee, I only gave Conference College Hoops (and any boxing that was Jan-Mar). I didn't give March Madness cause it's hard to handicap. I just stuck with my consistent wins and big wins,

    Didn't mean to call you out, but you see my point? Maybe you were doing a quick reply and didn't consider earlier info. Thank you for the congrats. I do read your posts and have been for a long time. Keep them up, you do a great job. Maybe 10 guys on boxing forum I respect opinion, you are up in there.

    GL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    Provodnikov would win the rematch 9/10 times, maybe more. Also, his camp will avoid fighters like Herrera like the plague. His next half dozen fights will be nothing more than showcase stoppages.

    Walk the line. I know you have some good analysis (not sarchasm here), but your statement doesn't add up. If Prov win 90% of the time, then laying -800 in your estimation is a +EV bet. -700 is great value according to your statement. You should be willing to wager any large overlay in a heartbeat, and Prov -750 would be to win $100 is overlaying you $135 per fight. That's very large. Most posters would reply, they weren't considering draws, or stoppage... even if that it would have to be 40% of their matches prov loses to a cut early (similar, swelling,etc) and draws. Think about it. I'm meticulous about my math and overlays and I can say, in 20 years, picking a large number of fights, not only do I believe I have a top percentage of all, my big dogs and prop bets are near the top in units earned (all units being equal). Boxing, Poker, Soccer, & I use to College Hoops Big (even had tout service). I had complaints because I only gave bets maybe 3 days and a total of 9 games. They wanted an action tout, I collected after winning week. $50 a week was my fee, I only gave Conference College Hoops (and any boxing that was Jan-Mar). I didn't give March Madness cause it's hard to handicap. I just stuck with my consistent wins and big wins,

    Didn't mean to call you out, but you see my point? Maybe you were doing a quick reply and didn't consider earlier info. Thank you for the congrats. I do read your posts and have been for a long time. Keep them up, you do a great job. Maybe 10 guys on boxing forum I respect opinion, you are up in there.

    GL!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2011 - 10:51 AM ET #17

    Any amount, if you believe 90% win rate (as long as you lay less than -900), is a +EV wager!
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    Any amount, if you believe 90% win rate (as long as you lay less than -900), is a +EV wager!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2011 - 10:52 AM ET #18

    You follow walktheline?
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    You follow walktheline?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2011 - 4:01 PM ET #19

    Nice cash
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    Nice cash
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2011 - 4:48 PM ET #20

    Great call
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    Great call
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