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    Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs David Diaz

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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2008 - 9:43 AM ET #1

    Manny Pacquiao vs David Diaz
    Sat 06/28/08 PDT 8:00 PM
    Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino- Las Vegas, Nevada
    Lightweight 12 Rounds
     
    ~ PW Pacquiao wins by 12 rnd decision +277 (2.0 Unit) [5.54|-2.00] {5dimes.com}
    ~ PW Pacquiao wins inside distance -132 (7.0 Units) [7.00|-9.24] {5dimes.com}
     
    Keys: Bob Arum has both fighters under contract. It would be hard to believe Arum would risk Pacquiao's star power to build up 32 year old David Diaz (an unknown to the general public). Diaz has one loss, but that was an early stoppage. His fight with Morales shows that he couldn't dominate a torn up fighter, where as Pacquiao walked through him in fights II & III (which physically finished Morales). Also, Pacquiao has the speed advantage. The only issue I see with Pacquiao is he is fighting against another south paw, the last fight he had against a south paw was in 2004 against Fahsan 3K Battery (Pacquiao won TKO 4th RND). If Diaz is in his very best shape, Pacquiao is not recovered from his last fight and is not is good shape, and is also not motivated, Diaz has a slim chance of an upset. If this goes to the scorecards, Arum's prize star might get the nod in a close fight.
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    Manny Pacquiao vs David Diaz
    Sat 06/28/08 PDT 8:00 PM
    Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino- Las Vegas, Nevada
    Lightweight 12 Rounds
     
    ~ PW Pacquiao wins by 12 rnd decision +277 (2.0 Unit) [5.54|-2.00] {5dimes.com}
    ~ PW Pacquiao wins inside distance -132 (7.0 Units) [7.00|-9.24] {5dimes.com}
     
    Keys: Bob Arum has both fighters under contract. It would be hard to believe Arum would risk Pacquiao's star power to build up 32 year old David Diaz (an unknown to the general public). Diaz has one loss, but that was an early stoppage. His fight with Morales shows that he couldn't dominate a torn up fighter, where as Pacquiao walked through him in fights II & III (which physically finished Morales). Also, Pacquiao has the speed advantage. The only issue I see with Pacquiao is he is fighting against another south paw, the last fight he had against a south paw was in 2004 against Fahsan 3K Battery (Pacquiao won TKO 4th RND). If Diaz is in his very best shape, Pacquiao is not recovered from his last fight and is not is good shape, and is also not motivated, Diaz has a slim chance of an upset. If this goes to the scorecards, Arum's prize star might get the nod in a close fight.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2008 - 12:47 PM ET #2

    In the future, you should probably have taken Manny to win as opposed to winning a decision and ITD (for 2 units each). Better payoff.

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    In the future, you should probably have taken Manny to win as opposed to winning a decision and ITD (for 2 units each). Better payoff.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2008 - 1:07 PM ET #3

    esplanade:
    I feel that Manny will win inside the distance, thus giving me a +5.0 Unit win overall. If Manny were to win by decision, I would lose 1.46 units total. The Pacquiao winning by decision is more of a hedge bet. Pacquiao at -475 just to win 5.0 Units I would be risking 23.75 Units (currently only risking 11.24 Units). Although the only other advantage would be a draw, and like I stated, I feel that even a close fight goes to Manny. Arum owns them both, and he loses tens of millions on a Pacquiao loss. I've watched boxing long enough to know that the scorecards often follow suit in which fighter will make the next mega fight. I appreciate the suggestion and normally, I do straight wagers, but in this instance I feel the proposition wagers and my analysis offers me a much greater risk vs reward ratio.
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    esplanade:
    I feel that Manny will win inside the distance, thus giving me a +5.0 Unit win overall. If Manny were to win by decision, I would lose 1.46 units total. The Pacquiao winning by decision is more of a hedge bet. Pacquiao at -475 just to win 5.0 Units I would be risking 23.75 Units (currently only risking 11.24 Units). Although the only other advantage would be a draw, and like I stated, I feel that even a close fight goes to Manny. Arum owns them both, and he loses tens of millions on a Pacquiao loss. I've watched boxing long enough to know that the scorecards often follow suit in which fighter will make the next mega fight. I appreciate the suggestion and normally, I do straight wagers, but in this instance I feel the proposition wagers and my analysis offers me a much greater risk vs reward ratio.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2008 - 1:19 PM ET #4

    good luck!
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    good luck!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2008 - 1:31 PM ET #5

    Thanks!
     I've watched Diaz and he is slower than Pacquiao. He's never really impressed me, but he does seem to be in great condition for the fight. I seen other posts, and I don't agree that Diaz has a better chin than Marquez. Marquez is a warrior, you might knock him down, but you can guarantee he is getting up. Pacquiao has a solid chin, proven by taking big shot from Marquez, and he would love to trade blow for blow. I don't think Diaz is going to be moving that much and it will be a matter of time when he is going to want to trade punches, especially if Manny overwhelms him with speed in the early going. My only concern is the cuts with these fighters. Otherwise, even if Diaz is in the best shape of his life, I don't think he has the attributes to overcome the Pacquiao assault.
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    Thanks!
     I've watched Diaz and he is slower than Pacquiao. He's never really impressed me, but he does seem to be in great condition for the fight. I seen other posts, and I don't agree that Diaz has a better chin than Marquez. Marquez is a warrior, you might knock him down, but you can guarantee he is getting up. Pacquiao has a solid chin, proven by taking big shot from Marquez, and he would love to trade blow for blow. I don't think Diaz is going to be moving that much and it will be a matter of time when he is going to want to trade punches, especially if Manny overwhelms him with speed in the early going. My only concern is the cuts with these fighters. Otherwise, even if Diaz is in the best shape of his life, I don't think he has the attributes to overcome the Pacquiao assault.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2008 - 1:01 AM ET #6

    Result: +5.0 Units
     
    ~ (L) PW Pacquiao wins by 12 rnd decision +277 (2.0 Unit) [5.54|-2.00] {5dimes.com}
    ~ (W) PW Pacquiao wins inside distance -132 (7.0 Units) [7.00|-9.24] {5dimes.com}
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    Result: +5.0 Units
     
    ~ (L) PW Pacquiao wins by 12 rnd decision +277 (2.0 Unit) [5.54|-2.00] {5dimes.com}
    ~ (W) PW Pacquiao wins inside distance -132 (7.0 Units) [7.00|-9.24] {5dimes.com}
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