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Author: [Gaming Industry - US] Topic: Lou, Question regarding BetED bailout.
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Posted: 6/7/2011 9:56:51 AM
In your opinion, how long before former BetED customers would be able to begin making wagers? a couple days? a week? a month?
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Posted: 6/11/2011 6:23:19 PM
any updates?
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Posted: 6/11/2011 8:26:17 PM
of course not. Lou and freedom are fuckin worthless scammers.
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Posted: 6/11/2011 11:47:24 PM
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Originally Posted by michael_coolman:

of course not. Lou and freedom are fuckin worthless scammers.

But yet once again there arn't updates every day and most likely there won't be any on the weekends.  What good is name calling.  You think that will get any updates faster.  When there is news it will be released.

 

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Posted: 6/12/2011 2:50:31 AM
True, name calling doesn't help, but the revelation that Beted was effectively owned by Covers (though it didn't take a brain surgeon to realize the relationship was deeper than acknowledged) does a lot to aggravate those of us that are left holding the bag.


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Posted: 6/12/2011 11:18:01 AM
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Originally Posted by esplanade:

True, name calling doesn't help, but the revelation that Beted was effectively owned by Covers (though it didn't take a brain surgeon to realize the relationship was deeper than acknowledged) does a lot to aggravate those of us that are left holding the bag.


So just because this article was written it's 100% true ??  And how does that make Covers an owner ?  If Covers was the owner don't you think that there would be updates and Covers could cut a deal with someone else.  If Covers was the owner they would of had the choice to put the money with any processor they wanted to.  They would of had a processor in Canada.

Don't get wound up by people writing articles that are just out there to stir garbage up. Add to that an article based on an Ex-employee. 

Don't be like most everyone out there and just swallow the hook on everything that is put out there.

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Posted: 6/12/2011 11:22:24 AM
The fact of the matter is, sbr and gambling911 are saying things, and covers is saying jack garbage. They don't report anything, write any articles, or keep us abreast of the happenings. 

So yes, we and everyone else is going to believe those other sites when Covers simply doesn't do anything but put their head in the sand.

Also, if covers was an owner of beted, they'd probably be doing exactly what they are now - which is trying to pretend they aren't owners by not saying anything and distancing themselves.

In fact, Covers is acting PRECISELY like you'd expect a quiet owner of Beted to act in this situation.
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Posted: 6/12/2011 11:24:02 AM
The other websites at least attempt to be journalistic in their coverage of the Beted fiasco. Covers, meanwhile, gives cryptic updates once or twice a week, and only responds to other sites attempts at "news", or when it gets really bad in this forum with people making threats etc.

Covers idea of "sports gambling news" is sarah j parker or whatever the darn that girls name is. 
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Posted: 6/12/2011 11:49:05 AM

Other websites are writing what they think is happening.  I would rather wait on hard facts rather than speculation

So an article that says an ex employee claims and isn't even named is supposed to be "news".  Yeah ok, maybe the National Enquire will have some info next week.

 

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Posted: 6/12/2011 12:26:31 PM
Why so defensive, Lipps?

What we know for an absolute fact is that high end Covers reps tried their best to shy away from any conflict of interest with regard to Beted when it is prima facia that this conflict existed. Then when industry insiders report as such, you label it as speculation. Conversely though, these same Covers reps tried their darndest to suggest that everything was the fault of the DOJ and that ALL money had been confiscated. Unless these parties are in fact very closely linked to Beted, they would have absolutely no idea where exactly Beted kept all of their monies.

So imo these Covers reps damaged their credibility with their own statements. They would have us believe what they are saying out of one side of their mouth yet disbelieve the ramifications of those comments. Outside sources are far more credible at this point, with all due respect.


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Posted: 6/12/2011 12:35:33 PM
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Originally Posted by esplanade:

Why so defensive, Lipps?

What we know for an absolute fact is that high end Covers reps tried their best to shy away from any conflict of interest with regard to Beted when it is prima facia that this conflict existed. Then when industry insiders report as such, you label it as speculation. Conversely though, these same Covers reps tried their darndest to suggest that everything was the fault of the DOJ and that ALL money had been confiscated. Unless these parties are in fact very closely linked to Beted, they would have absolutely no idea where exactly Beted kept all of their monies.

So imo these Covers reps damaged their credibility with their own statements. They would have us believe what they are saying out of one side of their mouth yet disbelieve the ramifications of those comments. Outside sources are far more credible at this point, with all due respect.


How in the world is let the facts come out and ignore speculation being defensive ?  Maybe you don't know how legal things work with the goverment.  It's an ongoing investigation, no one has any info till this is over being investigatged.  No one can tell you anything.  It's all speculation.  It's not going to do anyone any good throwing garbage out there.

If you read all the threads here you know what I think about if the bailout should of been taken or not.  You know I don't agree with everything Covers has said and I sure don't agree with an article about an ex-employee or a Bodog guy posting something.

 

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Posted: 6/12/2011 12:45:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Lippsman:

Other websites are writing what they think is happening.  I would rather wait on hard facts rather than speculation

So an article that says an ex employee claims and isn't even named is supposed to be "news".  Yeah ok, maybe the National Enquire will have some info next week.

 


I'll tell ya one thing, though. If Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and all the other news channels quit reporting things, and only the National Enquirer existed daily and hourly, then they would become the defacto reputable news source.

If you guys don't want gambling911 and etc to spread rumors and incorrect facts, maybe y'all should step the darn up and say something more concrete more than once or twice a week.

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Posted: 6/12/2011 12:54:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SnotBoogy:


I'll tell ya one thing, though. If Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and all the other news channels quit reporting things, and only the National Enquirer existed daily and hourly, then they would become the defacto reputable news source.

If you guys don't want gambling911 and etc to spread rumors and incorrect facts, maybe y'all should step the darn up and say something more concrete more than once or twice a week.

Capice?

Who the hell is you guys ? You think I have a dog in this fight ? 

I just call as it is.??.....Both sides have F'd up here.

Double Capice

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Posted: 6/12/2011 1:10:00 PM
no Lipps  the reply is Capisco
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Posted: 6/12/2011 1:22:12 PM

Same garbage, different day.

I have been following all the threads on a dail basis. Just decided not to participate since it's all been said already.

Same garbage, different day        Peace Out  

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Posted: 6/12/2011 1:23:06 PM
not dail   DAILY    I should type with my feet 
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Posted: 6/12/2011 1:34:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeWiler:

Covers has nothing to say. They are guilty as sin and they know it. I haven't said anything yet because I had a lot of money in BetEd and was holding out hope. But after all this information and circumstantial evidence has come out, it's pretty obvious Covers is in bed with BetEd. And consequently, they have cost a lot of innocent people a lot of money. They haven't been honest from day one. Lou and Paul's "updates" are just absolute bullshit. There's no other way to put. We'll never see our money, but Lou and Paul will rot in hell. So at least we have that going for us.

What the hell do you mean you haven't said anything yet.  You have created about 10 alias' to say stuff.

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Posted: 6/12/2011 2:41:08 PM
Enjoy this while you can, guys.

Covers didn't own betED.

The people spreading those rumors are the ones who benefit from the chaos.

I will say this though...

I'm getting tired of these insinuations.

As I mentioned in another thread, that garbage is dangerous. We all know the DOJ doesn't have a clue about right from wrong, and if they start believing these rumors, then there is a chance I'll find myself on an indictment.

And if I'm gone, then they'll probably shut down the site too.

So in the name of the security of myself and my employees, I'm going to start banning and/or boxing anybody who continues spreading these baseless rumors.

You want to do it... go to another site and feel comfy doing it, and then feel real comfy when you are all proven wrong.

In the meantime, don't do it on my site.
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Posted: 6/12/2011 2:58:37 PM

Hey Freedom (Or maybe you are Paul), this is a forum....and a public one.  You state "

In the meantime, don't do it on my site."
 
Who the darn are you?  This is a public forum. 
 
Are you going to lock every thread that talks garbage about Covers.com? 
 
You guys are fucked!
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Posted: 6/12/2011 5:41:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

Enjoy this while you can, guys.

Covers didn't own betED.

The people spreading those rumors are the ones who benefit from the chaos.

I will say this though...

I'm getting tired of these insinuations.

As I mentioned in another thread, that garbage is dangerous. We all know the DOJ doesn't have a clue about right from wrong, and if they start believing these rumors, then there is a chance I'll find myself on an indictment.

And if I'm gone, then they'll probably shut down the site too.

So in the name of the security of myself and my employees, I'm going to start banning and/or boxing anybody who continues spreading these baseless rumors.

You want to do it... go to another site and feel comfy doing it, and then feel real comfy when you are all proven wrong.

In the meantime, don't do it on my site.

To clear your name, make public the details of the advertising agreement covers.com had with BetED. The DOJ is doing their job, if u have nothing to hide you will be fine. Many of us think otherwise. If this continues much longer you won't have to worry about the DOJ, everyone will leave and that will put covers out of business. Just something to think about. Do the right thing! 

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Posted: 6/12/2011 5:57:14 PM
If Calvin Ayre et al are spreading false rumors why dont you just sue them for libel? After all Calvin is a billionaire.
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Posted: 6/12/2011 6:14:56 PM
If its so dangerous, you'd think Covers would be saying MORE to dispel these rumors and defend itself. Not say nothing, which has been the MO thus far.
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Posted: 6/12/2011 6:21:09 PM
so are they still in the due dillagince stage or what?? lol what a joke bet fled is screwing everyone all  over again 
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Posted: 6/12/2011 7:48:51 PM

Freedom is right about DOJ and Beted parties checking the forums.  Keeping rumors out ot the equation and focus on real issues is what is needed.  Freedom was caught off guard like of all of us with what has transpired. So just this alone shows COVERS was not involved like all the rumors have stated. 

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Posted: 6/12/2011 7:59:00 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dbyers34:

Freedom is right about DOJ and Beted parties checking the forums.  Keeping rumors out ot the equation and focus on real issues is what is needed.  Freedom was caught off guard like of all of us with what has transpired. So just this alone shows COVERS was not involved like all the rumors have stated. 

uh....OK.....

its looks like Lou or Freedom just made an alias.

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