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Murray St @ Austin Peay

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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 1:40 PM ET #1

YTD: 7-7

My Play: Austin Peay +4.5 and ML +175…….This line has moved in Peay favor with more people on Murray St

Not a big fan of this low number as I thought I would get at least +7 as I saw it there for a minute, wake up today and its down to 4.5. O Well

This is the hardest week left in Murray St schedule in the regular season. If they get through this week unbeaten, there is no reason to think they will go undefeated in the regular season. With this being said, this is a perfect spot to fade Murray St. They are going into Austin Peay for one of the biggest mid major rivalry games in college basketball, the 112th meeting. Regardless of records both teams will come pumped up for the game. After a very disappointing non-conference record and start to conference play, this is Peays BIG game in front of their home fans. Nothing would be better for this team than to knock off their rival, who is undefeated and nationally ranked.

Murray St will be without 6’7” Senior Forward Ivan Aska who is a 4 year player and averaged 20+ min every year. Also just a random note the Racers 27th all time leading scorer. This year he is averaging 12.6 PPG and 6 Reb. Not only are they losing a valuable asset to their team, they are now limited on their bench as they will probably play 8 players significant minutes. Filling in for Aska will probably be Latreze Mushatt (6’5”) transfer from UMKC who has been averaging about 17 minutes while Aska averages about 27 which means they will have to play Mushatt more minutes than he is used to or go to the bench more often. Mushatt has a completely different role in this Murray St system not being near the scorer he was at UMKC. This year Mushatt is averaging 3.5 PPG and 4.2 Reb. Now with Aska being out they also lose height, which will be a key factor tonight in this game. Murray St starting lineup is 6-0, 6-1, 6-3, 6-5, 6-7 which ends up being a little smaller than usual but the real problem is the bench. They have one player on the bench that they play that is over 6-3 and this is Brandon Garrett who only averages about 14 min a game and 3.3 PPG and 2.7 Reb. Wouldn’t say he is a strong big man off the bench. I know I keep going back to the bench but this is the game I feel Murray St feels the effects of losinf Aska

A note to add is that Murray St game on Wed against Eastern Kentucky showed that Murray St took a little step back without Aska. The score is no indication of how close this game was. Eastern Kentucky was within 2 with 4 minutes to play but the better team pulled away to get a 9 pt win.

Austin Peay has been a disappointment to say the least this year. They have enough talent to compete for the OVC this year, as they were pre season favorites, but just haven’t been able to find themselves. Peay has the talent to compete with Murray St and I don’t see why they wont come to play. The crowd @ Peay will be loud and wild for this game, something Murray maybe has only seen at Memphis this year. Peay starts a considerably larger lineup, 6-1, 6-4, 6-5, 6-7, 6-8, which is going to play a big role on the glass both defensive and offensive. I expect Peay to win the rebounding edge in this game and imagine they will get more 2nd chance shots than Murray St is used to giving up. On the defensive end Peay length will help tremendously also. Peavy guards will have a few inches on Murray guards making it harder to shot over the top, have to get a little more spacing. Peavy bench is not deep as they probably only play 7 guys decent minutes tomorrow but have decent size to come off the bench, 6-6 and 6-3.Peay got John Fraley back 5 games ago @ Tenn, where they went and won a nail bitter. He was a huge lose to this team to start the season as he leads the team in reb (8.2 per game) and scores about 8 PPG. Now he is back and he helps fill the paint. 

Tomorrow I am expecting Melvin Baker, Josh Terry, and TyShwan Edmondson to continue to score for this team and wouldn’t be surprised if one or two of them had a big game. After all that said I just feel this is the one spot from here on out Murray St is going to run into a real tough road test, with a team who is actually just as talented as them. Not saying they haven’t played any team just as talented but a tough spot and a lot of pressure on Murray St with the national spotlight on them. Peavy hasn’t played since New Years Eve, having 7 days to prep. Murray St played Wed so they didn’t have near the prep time Peay had, unless the Racers were looking ahead to this game which I can’t imagine being the case as they have a perfect season going.

Sorry for rambling but had a lot to say about this game. Have had it eyed for awhile now.

GL

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YTD: 7-7

My Play: Austin Peay +4.5 and ML +175…….This line has moved in Peay favor with more people on Murray St

Not a big fan of this low number as I thought I would get at least +7 as I saw it there for a minute, wake up today and its down to 4.5. O Well

This is the hardest week left in Murray St schedule in the regular season. If they get through this week unbeaten, there is no reason to think they will go undefeated in the regular season. With this being said, this is a perfect spot to fade Murray St. They are going into Austin Peay for one of the biggest mid major rivalry games in college basketball, the 112th meeting. Regardless of records both teams will come pumped up for the game. After a very disappointing non-conference record and start to conference play, this is Peays BIG game in front of their home fans. Nothing would be better for this team than to knock off their rival, who is undefeated and nationally ranked.

Murray St will be without 6’7” Senior Forward Ivan Aska who is a 4 year player and averaged 20+ min every year. Also just a random note the Racers 27th all time leading scorer. This year he is averaging 12.6 PPG and 6 Reb. Not only are they losing a valuable asset to their team, they are now limited on their bench as they will probably play 8 players significant minutes. Filling in for Aska will probably be Latreze Mushatt (6’5”) transfer from UMKC who has been averaging about 17 minutes while Aska averages about 27 which means they will have to play Mushatt more minutes than he is used to or go to the bench more often. Mushatt has a completely different role in this Murray St system not being near the scorer he was at UMKC. This year Mushatt is averaging 3.5 PPG and 4.2 Reb. Now with Aska being out they also lose height, which will be a key factor tonight in this game. Murray St starting lineup is 6-0, 6-1, 6-3, 6-5, 6-7 which ends up being a little smaller than usual but the real problem is the bench. They have one player on the bench that they play that is over 6-3 and this is Brandon Garrett who only averages about 14 min a game and 3.3 PPG and 2.7 Reb. Wouldn’t say he is a strong big man off the bench. I know I keep going back to the bench but this is the game I feel Murray St feels the effects of losinf Aska

A note to add is that Murray St game on Wed against Eastern Kentucky showed that Murray St took a little step back without Aska. The score is no indication of how close this game was. Eastern Kentucky was within 2 with 4 minutes to play but the better team pulled away to get a 9 pt win.

Austin Peay has been a disappointment to say the least this year. They have enough talent to compete for the OVC this year, as they were pre season favorites, but just haven’t been able to find themselves. Peay has the talent to compete with Murray St and I don’t see why they wont come to play. The crowd @ Peay will be loud and wild for this game, something Murray maybe has only seen at Memphis this year. Peay starts a considerably larger lineup, 6-1, 6-4, 6-5, 6-7, 6-8, which is going to play a big role on the glass both defensive and offensive. I expect Peay to win the rebounding edge in this game and imagine they will get more 2nd chance shots than Murray St is used to giving up. On the defensive end Peay length will help tremendously also. Peavy guards will have a few inches on Murray guards making it harder to shot over the top, have to get a little more spacing. Peavy bench is not deep as they probably only play 7 guys decent minutes tomorrow but have decent size to come off the bench, 6-6 and 6-3.Peay got John Fraley back 5 games ago @ Tenn, where they went and won a nail bitter. He was a huge lose to this team to start the season as he leads the team in reb (8.2 per game) and scores about 8 PPG. Now he is back and he helps fill the paint. 

Tomorrow I am expecting Melvin Baker, Josh Terry, and TyShwan Edmondson to continue to score for this team and wouldn’t be surprised if one or two of them had a big game. After all that said I just feel this is the one spot from here on out Murray St is going to run into a real tough road test, with a team who is actually just as talented as them. Not saying they haven’t played any team just as talented but a tough spot and a lot of pressure on Murray St with the national spotlight on them. Peavy hasn’t played since New Years Eve, having 7 days to prep. Murray St played Wed so they didn’t have near the prep time Peay had, unless the Racers were looking ahead to this game which I can’t imagine being the case as they have a perfect season going.

Sorry for rambling but had a lot to say about this game. Have had it eyed for awhile now.

GL

 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 2:04 PM ET #2

Another play:

Western Michigan +6.5 @ Ball St

Western Michigan has a ton of injuries but have found alot of depth through all this. Their injuries are no help but the guys filling in are pretty much interchangable. These are the two best teams in the MAC West and I expect this to be a fight. WOuldnt be surprised in Western Michigan won SU. Ball St home record is impressive but their one quality win at home was against Butler. Besides that have played two decent teams to start the year in U of Arizona and Indiana St. Besides that their schedule has not been impressive. Western Michigan on the other hand has had one of the toughest schedules in the country and will be ready in the MAC. I wouldnt be surprised to still see them win the MAC West

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Western Michigan +6.5 @ Ball St

Western Michigan has a ton of injuries but have found alot of depth through all this. Their injuries are no help but the guys filling in are pretty much interchangable. These are the two best teams in the MAC West and I expect this to be a fight. WOuldnt be surprised in Western Michigan won SU. Ball St home record is impressive but their one quality win at home was against Butler. Besides that have played two decent teams to start the year in U of Arizona and Indiana St. Besides that their schedule has not been impressive. Western Michigan on the other hand has had one of the toughest schedules in the country and will be ready in the MAC. I wouldnt be surprised to still see them win the MAC West

 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 3:42 PM ET #5

Adding Southern Miss -1.5 @ Tulane

I think the record of this Tulane team does not show the abilities of this team. If you looked at the record you would think this team has been playing real well. Think again. They played a cupcake non conference schedule and their only decent win is GT. This Southern Miss team has played alot tougher schedule and their only two losses come against unbeaten Murray St in 2OT and @ Denver which is not an easy place to play. I see Southern Miss winning this game fairly easy.

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Adding Southern Miss -1.5 @ Tulane

I think the record of this Tulane team does not show the abilities of this team. If you looked at the record you would think this team has been playing real well. Think again. They played a cupcake non conference schedule and their only decent win is GT. This Southern Miss team has played alot tougher schedule and their only two losses come against unbeaten Murray St in 2OT and @ Denver which is not an easy place to play. I see Southern Miss winning this game fairly easy.

 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 4:17 PM ET #6

Adding two more plays and looking into one more but will post later

Denver @ S Alabama +4

Denver's road struggles in conference have been well documented and if it changes it will be because of their veteran squad. I am expecting Denver to be a team to fade on the road and play at home. This team just doesnt perform on the road and they came off a tough road win 2 days ago. This S Alabama team in dyer need of a conference win. Only thing scaring me is they just lost in OT two days ago. Mainly a fade of denver on the road

Wofford @ Western Carolina PK

Short and sweet. A let down spot for Wofford after they just killed CofC.

 

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Denver @ S Alabama +4

Denver's road struggles in conference have been well documented and if it changes it will be because of their veteran squad. I am expecting Denver to be a team to fade on the road and play at home. This team just doesnt perform on the road and they came off a tough road win 2 days ago. This S Alabama team in dyer need of a conference win. Only thing scaring me is they just lost in OT two days ago. Mainly a fade of denver on the road

Wofford @ Western Carolina PK

Short and sweet. A let down spot for Wofford after they just killed CofC.

 

 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 5:31 PM ET #7

The line has dropped from 6 to 4.5. The would indicate more $ on AP.
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That* would indicate....
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Quote Originally Posted by Skipbone:

The line has dropped from 6 to 4.5. The would indicate more $ on AP.

You think there's more money on 3-12 Austin Peay against #18 15-0 Murray State only needing to cover, originally, 6?  If so then you have no idea how the public works. 

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Quote Originally Posted by Skipbone:

The line has dropped from 6 to 4.5. The would indicate more $ on AP.

You think there's more money on 3-12 Austin Peay against #18 15-0 Murray State only needing to cover, originally, 6?  If so then you have no idea how the public works. 

 
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This screams sucker play, i'll pass.  I'd rather sit out and be right than play it and be wrong.  The movement is begging for more Murray State money though
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This screams sucker play, i'll pass.  I'd rather sit out and be right than play it and be wrong.  The movement is begging for more Murray State money though
 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 5:58 PM ET #11

[Quote: Originally Posted by T_Rav1088]

You think there's more money on 3-12 Austin Peay against #18 15-0 Murray State only needing to cover, originally, 6?  If so then you have no idea how the public works. 

You are both right in a way.  Yes, their is probably a higher frequency of bets coming in on Murray St, but the larger size bets are coming in on Austin Peay.  This is what causes the RLM and why you see betting % higher on Murray even though their is most likely more money on AP.

Anyways, I locked in Peay this morning at 6.5  Good luck and I hope they pull the upset.

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[Quote: Originally Posted by T_Rav1088]

You think there's more money on 3-12 Austin Peay against #18 15-0 Murray State only needing to cover, originally, 6?  If so then you have no idea how the public works. 

You are both right in a way.  Yes, their is probably a higher frequency of bets coming in on Murray St, but the larger size bets are coming in on Austin Peay.  This is what causes the RLM and why you see betting % higher on Murray even though their is most likely more money on AP.

Anyways, I locked in Peay this morning at 6.5  Good luck and I hope they pull the upset.

 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 6:26 PM ET #12

Quote Originally Posted by BookieKillerNag:

Quote Originally Posted by T_Rav1088:

You think there's more money on 3-12 Austin Peay against #18 15-0 Murray State only needing to cover, originally, 6?  If so then you have no idea how the public works. 

You are both right in a way.  Yes, their is probably a higher frequency of bets coming in on Murray St, but the larger size bets are coming in on Austin Peay.  This is what causes the RLM and why you see betting % higher on Murray even though their is most likely more money on AP.

Anyways, I locked in Peay this morning at 6.5  Good luck and I hope they pull the upset.

Yes you are 100% correct, I should have explained. That is my fault

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Quote Originally Posted by BookieKillerNag:

Quote Originally Posted by T_Rav1088:

You think there's more money on 3-12 Austin Peay against #18 15-0 Murray State only needing to cover, originally, 6?  If so then you have no idea how the public works. 

You are both right in a way.  Yes, their is probably a higher frequency of bets coming in on Murray St, but the larger size bets are coming in on Austin Peay.  This is what causes the RLM and why you see betting % higher on Murray even though their is most likely more money on AP.

Anyways, I locked in Peay this morning at 6.5  Good luck and I hope they pull the upset.

Yes you are 100% correct, I should have explained. That is my fault

 
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Posted: Jan. 7, 2012 - 6:34 PM ET #13

One more play:

Cal Irvine -3.5 @ UC Davis

This UC Davis team is really bad. Since they lost their 2 starting guards last year who were both 6'8" they have taken a tremendous step back. They are terrible on the boards from games I have seen and really are not threatening on offense at all. Irvine plays at a pretty uptempo pace if I am not mistaken and if UC Davis lets this game go up and down I dont think UC Davis can score enough to cover tonight. This UC Davis team just has no rythm and looks like one of the worst teams in the country. I can not back them from what I have seen. If they win this game I will be shocked as their only win has came against UC Santa Cruz.

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Cal Irvine -3.5 @ UC Davis

This UC Davis team is really bad. Since they lost their 2 starting guards last year who were both 6'8" they have taken a tremendous step back. They are terrible on the boards from games I have seen and really are not threatening on offense at all. Irvine plays at a pretty uptempo pace if I am not mistaken and if UC Davis lets this game go up and down I dont think UC Davis can score enough to cover tonight. This UC Davis team just has no rythm and looks like one of the worst teams in the country. I can not back them from what I have seen. If they win this game I will be shocked as their only win has came against UC Santa Cruz.

 
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DMoore explained quite well the rationale behind Austin Peay. This isn't some "game" Vegas is playing, nor is it a "trap" or "trick." You can 100% count on seeing Austin Peay's very best possible effort, and in a hostile environment without one of its two top players, there is no telling how Murray State will react.

My hunch is that John Fraley makes a mighty big impact tonight.
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DMoore explained quite well the rationale behind Austin Peay. This isn't some "game" Vegas is playing, nor is it a "trap" or "trick." You can 100% count on seeing Austin Peay's very best possible effort, and in a hostile environment without one of its two top players, there is no telling how Murray State will react.

My hunch is that John Fraley makes a mighty big impact tonight.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

DMoore explained quite well the rationale behind Austin Peay. This isn't some "game" Vegas is playing, nor is it a "trap" or "trick." You can 100% count on seeing Austin Peay's very best possible effort, and in a hostile environment without one of its two top players, there is no telling how Murray State will react.

My hunch is that John Fraley makes a mighty big impact tonight.

I think your hunch may come true tonight. I will be watching him expecting a big game out of him. I saw you got a great number on this game at +7.

GL tonight JFen

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Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

DMoore explained quite well the rationale behind Austin Peay. This isn't some "game" Vegas is playing, nor is it a "trap" or "trick." You can 100% count on seeing Austin Peay's very best possible effort, and in a hostile environment without one of its two top players, there is no telling how Murray State will react.

My hunch is that John Fraley makes a mighty big impact tonight.

I think your hunch may come true tonight. I will be watching him expecting a big game out of him. I saw you got a great number on this game at +7.

GL tonight JFen

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