Conference Tournaments kick off tonight. I will have futures (all based on value), and a nice selection of games determining on what I feel is value. Plays rank 1-3 units. Nothing more, nothing less.
Horizon League Futures
Valpo +1100 (1 Unit)
Loyola CHI +3800 (1 Unit)
I see value in the bottom half of the bracket. I want absolutely no part of the top half of the bracket which contains what I feel is the best three teams in the league in Butler, CSU, and Wright State. Yes, Wisconsin MKE won the top seed, and the tournament is being played in their yard, but they do not scare me. They have been winning games on the offensive end of the ball, and generally in this tournament, that is not going to get you very far with the defensive teams this conference contains. Beating this Wisconsin MKE team is fairly simple – slow the pace, and minimize touches. Wisconsin MKE’s offense is predicated on shooting the three and shooting it enough to where it’s a gigantic outcome in just about every game. If they don’t get the # of possessions they need, they struggle. They were held below the 60 point mark eight times on the year and went 1-7 in those games. Simply put, the two teams chosen that I’ve invested in have a better defense, just as good if not better all-around offense, and play a slower tempo. The cons – playing on the MKE homecourt (although Loyola won here already this year) and having to win playing a four game stretch (although it’s stretched out over a week). Plenty of opportunities to get out of this one if either of them gets past MKE.
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
I’m playing Loyola CHI, obviously. They have double revenge against a team that put up 80 on them and shot better than 50% in both meetings this year and I would expect in this setting that Detroit gets nowhere near that # again or this is a loser. Detroit just doesn’t shoot enough three’s for it to be a major difference and those two games were the better part of what I would call a fluke. They shot a combined 15/29 from long distance which was the equalizer and something that probably doesn’t occur tonight. Coming into the year, Loyola CHI was a team that came in with many expectations. They returned the better part of the entire roster and they had a good start to the year. Then, the downturn started. Butler came in, and they lost it at the end. Then, they welcomed Valpo in, and again played them tough before falling at the end. Then, they welcomed Kansas State for another big game (Pullen’s Mom works at Loyola I believe). They faltered, they relied on the three-ball extremely way too much throughout the conference season and after the really good start, then really bad emotional three games, they couldn’t bounce back…until recently. They lost the bracket-buster at St. Peter’s (MAAC went something like 8-1 or 9-1 in those bracketbuster games), that’s about their only rough loss as of late. Over the course of the past few weeks, they’ve defeated a rival who had revenge on the road, beat Valpo by 20 on the road, and took Butler down to the wire again, this time on the road. They’re defense has been unreal the last few games, and I think they’ve found what has helped them to their fast starts the past few years. From a different perspective, Loyola CHI has the veteran leadership to get another victory on the road here tonight having returned just about everyone from last year. On the flip side, Detroit’s one of the most in-experienced group in the country. With the current status of Loyola CHI’s defense in full force, and Detroit’s inability to have an equalizer, much less have the ability to attempt shots from the outside, this game should go to the more experienced squad. I thought about going a unit on the +200 for tonight’s game, but that unit got invested into the future for obvious reasons. I have no interest in the other Horizon games.
Loyola CHI +5 (2 Units)
If you have any other questions, feel free to post them in here on the other games. My concentration is on the tournaments, but I’m open for discussion.
GL
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ACC (March 10-13)
America East (March 3-6)
Atlantic Sun (March 2-5)
Atlantic 10 (March 8-13)
Big East (March 8-12)
Big Sky (March 5-9)
Big South (March 1-5)
Big Ten (March 10-13)
Big 12 (March 9-12)
Big West (March 10-13)
Colonial (March 4-7)
Conference USA (March 9 -12)
Horizon (March 1-8)
MAAC (March 4-7)
MAC (March 8-12)
MEAC (March 8-12)
MVC (March 3-6)
MWC (March 8-12)
Northeast (March 3-9)
OVC (March 2-5)
Pac 10 (March 9-12)
Patriot (March 2-11)
SEC ( March 10-13)
Southern (March 4-7)
Southland (March 8-12)
Summit (March 5-8)
Sun Belt (March 5-8)
SWAC (March 9-12)
WAC (March 9-12)
WCC (March 4-7)
143-119, -13.20
DNP: 121-104
Conference Tournaments kick off tonight. I will have futures (all based on value), and a nice selection of games determining on what I feel is value. Plays rank 1-3 units. Nothing more, nothing less.
Horizon League Futures
Valpo +1100 (1 Unit)
Loyola CHI +3800 (1 Unit)
I see value in the bottom half of the bracket. I want absolutely no part of the top half of the bracket which contains what I feel is the best three teams in the league in Butler, CSU, and Wright State. Yes, Wisconsin MKE won the top seed, and the tournament is being played in their yard, but they do not scare me. They have been winning games on the offensive end of the ball, and generally in this tournament, that is not going to get you very far with the defensive teams this conference contains. Beating this Wisconsin MKE team is fairly simple – slow the pace, and minimize touches. Wisconsin MKE’s offense is predicated on shooting the three and shooting it enough to where it’s a gigantic outcome in just about every game. If they don’t get the # of possessions they need, they struggle. They were held below the 60 point mark eight times on the year and went 1-7 in those games. Simply put, the two teams chosen that I’ve invested in have a better defense, just as good if not better all-around offense, and play a slower tempo. The cons – playing on the MKE homecourt (although Loyola won here already this year) and having to win playing a four game stretch (although it’s stretched out over a week). Plenty of opportunities to get out of this one if either of them gets past MKE.
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
I’m playing Loyola CHI, obviously. They have double revenge against a team that put up 80 on them and shot better than 50% in both meetings this year and I would expect in this setting that Detroit gets nowhere near that # again or this is a loser. Detroit just doesn’t shoot enough three’s for it to be a major difference and those two games were the better part of what I would call a fluke. They shot a combined 15/29 from long distance which was the equalizer and something that probably doesn’t occur tonight. Coming into the year, Loyola CHI was a team that came in with many expectations. They returned the better part of the entire roster and they had a good start to the year. Then, the downturn started. Butler came in, and they lost it at the end. Then, they welcomed Valpo in, and again played them tough before falling at the end. Then, they welcomed Kansas State for another big game (Pullen’s Mom works at Loyola I believe). They faltered, they relied on the three-ball extremely way too much throughout the conference season and after the really good start, then really bad emotional three games, they couldn’t bounce back…until recently. They lost the bracket-buster at St. Peter’s (MAAC went something like 8-1 or 9-1 in those bracketbuster games), that’s about their only rough loss as of late. Over the course of the past few weeks, they’ve defeated a rival who had revenge on the road, beat Valpo by 20 on the road, and took Butler down to the wire again, this time on the road. They’re defense has been unreal the last few games, and I think they’ve found what has helped them to their fast starts the past few years. From a different perspective, Loyola CHI has the veteran leadership to get another victory on the road here tonight having returned just about everyone from last year. On the flip side, Detroit’s one of the most in-experienced group in the country. With the current status of Loyola CHI’s defense in full force, and Detroit’s inability to have an equalizer, much less have the ability to attempt shots from the outside, this game should go to the more experienced squad. I thought about going a unit on the +200 for tonight’s game, but that unit got invested into the future for obvious reasons. I have no interest in the other Horizon games.
Loyola CHI +5 (2 Units)
If you have any other questions, feel free to post them in here on the other games. My concentration is on the tournaments, but I’m open for discussion.
I'm trying to see your view on Loyola (IL). Sure they lost BOTH games to Detroit already, and I can see a revenge factor, my question to you is do you think they will actually WIN or just take the points?
Jan 6 @ (IL) - Det 83-71
Feb 5 vs - Det 81-71
I have DETROIT winning again in a parlay....because of one factor! They're SIZE!
Detroit is also a BETTER home team than road team.
Loyola (IL) 2 biggest players on the court:
- Averkamp 6'8" 230
- Polka 6'7" 240
Detroit 2 biggest players on the court:
- Holman 6'10" 255
- Lowe 6'11" 210
- Minnerath 6'8" 220
In the Jan 6th game Detroit outrebounded them 40-29....5 Off Reb's for HOLMAN of Detroit and 2 Off Reb's for Averkamp of Loyola (IL).
Sure Detroit had an uncharacteristic 9 - 3 pter's to Loyola's 6 - 3 pters.
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BUT in the Feb 5th game Detroit only rebounded them 39-34.....4 Off Reb's for HOLMAN and 3 Off Reb's for McCammon of Loyola (IL).
This time Loyola had more 3 - pointers.....7 to Detroit's 6.
I'm trying to see your view on Loyola (IL). Sure they lost BOTH games to Detroit already, and I can see a revenge factor, my question to you is do you think they will actually WIN or just take the points?
Jan 6 @ (IL) - Det 83-71
Feb 5 vs - Det 81-71
I have DETROIT winning again in a parlay....because of one factor! They're SIZE!
Detroit is also a BETTER home team than road team.
Loyola (IL) 2 biggest players on the court:
- Averkamp 6'8" 230
- Polka 6'7" 240
Detroit 2 biggest players on the court:
- Holman 6'10" 255
- Lowe 6'11" 210
- Minnerath 6'8" 220
In the Jan 6th game Detroit outrebounded them 40-29....5 Off Reb's for HOLMAN of Detroit and 2 Off Reb's for Averkamp of Loyola (IL).
Sure Detroit had an uncharacteristic 9 - 3 pter's to Loyola's 6 - 3 pters.
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BUT in the Feb 5th game Detroit only rebounded them 39-34.....4 Off Reb's for HOLMAN and 3 Off Reb's for McCammon of Loyola (IL).
This time Loyola had more 3 - pointers.....7 to Detroit's 6.
OSU vs PSU Bama vs UF and its senior night for the Gators
Which side would you take, thanks
Pretty big senior night for Penn State going against the #1 team in the nation at home. Line is spot on I think. If the game is up and down, I think Penn State doesn't have a chance. They don't have the athleticism to match up. Battle's had a bad four games in the series: 5/17, 7/19, 8/18, 4/11 last four. If the game is slower, then I think they're playing their style of basketball. First game this year all four halves went over 30, I don't think that happens tonight. One team should be held under 30 1H I would imagine. I lean under, think it's the best value, but I'm not touching it.
Same case for the Florida game, like the under. Both teams defensive makeup make it really tough for the other team to score. Bama second roady pre-senior night and Florida in sort of a sandwich situation. Furthermore, both teams play slooooooooow. Bama does some things defensively that mirror UCF at the beginning of the year when they were getting after it, I think Florida struggles. Also think Bama's offense struggles. I don't think either team comes out of the 50's.
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Quote Originally Posted by SonnySixKill:
OSU vs PSU Bama vs UF and its senior night for the Gators
Which side would you take, thanks
Pretty big senior night for Penn State going against the #1 team in the nation at home. Line is spot on I think. If the game is up and down, I think Penn State doesn't have a chance. They don't have the athleticism to match up. Battle's had a bad four games in the series: 5/17, 7/19, 8/18, 4/11 last four. If the game is slower, then I think they're playing their style of basketball. First game this year all four halves went over 30, I don't think that happens tonight. One team should be held under 30 1H I would imagine. I lean under, think it's the best value, but I'm not touching it.
Same case for the Florida game, like the under. Both teams defensive makeup make it really tough for the other team to score. Bama second roady pre-senior night and Florida in sort of a sandwich situation. Furthermore, both teams play slooooooooow. Bama does some things defensively that mirror UCF at the beginning of the year when they were getting after it, I think Florida struggles. Also think Bama's offense struggles. I don't think either team comes out of the 50's.
I'm trying to see your view on Loyola (IL). Sure they lost BOTH games to Detroit already, and I can see a revenge factor, my question to you is do you think they will actually WIN or just take the points?
Jan 6 @ (IL) - Det 83-71
Feb 5 vs - Det 81-71
I have DETROIT winning again in a parlay....because of one factor! They're SIZE!
Detroit is also a BETTER home team than road team.
Loyola (IL) 2 biggest players on the court:
- Averkamp 6'8" 230
- Polka 6'7" 240
Detroit 2 biggest players on the court:
- Holman 6'10" 255
- Lowe 6'11" 210
- Minnerath 6'8" 220
In the Jan 6th game Detroit outrebounded them 40-29....5 Off Reb's for HOLMAN of Detroit and 2 Off Reb's for Averkamp of Loyola (IL).
Sure Detroit had an uncharacteristic 9 - 3 pter's to Loyola's 6 - 3 pters.
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BUT in the Feb 5th game Detroit only rebounded them 39-34.....4 Off Reb's for HOLMAN and 3 Off Reb's for McCammon of Loyola (IL).
This time Loyola had more 3 - pointers.....7 to Detroit's 6.
When Team A shoots over 50% and Team B shoots 30%, Team A should outrebound Team B.
Illinois is the tallest team in the country, has gotten them nowhere.
I'm trying to see your view on Loyola (IL). Sure they lost BOTH games to Detroit already, and I can see a revenge factor, my question to you is do you think they will actually WIN or just take the points?
Jan 6 @ (IL) - Det 83-71
Feb 5 vs - Det 81-71
I have DETROIT winning again in a parlay....because of one factor! They're SIZE!
Detroit is also a BETTER home team than road team.
Loyola (IL) 2 biggest players on the court:
- Averkamp 6'8" 230
- Polka 6'7" 240
Detroit 2 biggest players on the court:
- Holman 6'10" 255
- Lowe 6'11" 210
- Minnerath 6'8" 220
In the Jan 6th game Detroit outrebounded them 40-29....5 Off Reb's for HOLMAN of Detroit and 2 Off Reb's for Averkamp of Loyola (IL).
Sure Detroit had an uncharacteristic 9 - 3 pter's to Loyola's 6 - 3 pters.
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BUT in the Feb 5th game Detroit only rebounded them 39-34.....4 Off Reb's for HOLMAN and 3 Off Reb's for McCammon of Loyola (IL).
This time Loyola had more 3 - pointers.....7 to Detroit's 6.
When Team A shoots over 50% and Team B shoots 30%, Team A should outrebound Team B.
Illinois is the tallest team in the country, has gotten them nowhere.
Only side I could play. Can argue both sides as far as match-ups go, but emotionally, it's Purdue's senior night and we have Indiana coming in on Saturday. If you saw Indiana's celebration for our loss at their place, then you'd understand the lookahead.
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Only side I could play. Can argue both sides as far as match-ups go, but emotionally, it's Purdue's senior night and we have Indiana coming in on Saturday. If you saw Indiana's celebration for our loss at their place, then you'd understand the lookahead.
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