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JEFFMARKETCAP	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 50831 Location: Illinois	#1 Posted: 9/25/2011 12:16:22 AM LOL. All these commercials about the special about him makes me wonder. If I was drunk and sitting where he was, I would have done the same. I feel real sorry for the guy. His life must be ruined. What happened to him? Anyone know?
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All-Star Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 11075 Location: Arizona	#2 Posted: 9/25/2011 12:21:39 AM Any human being would have done the exact same friggin thing. Maybe if crying girl Alou didn't make a big friggin deal about it at the time and the Cubs didn't end up BLOWING the friggin series, he would be living a normal life right now. Sadly though, he is not I'm sure.
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All-Star Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 11075 Location: Arizona	#3 Posted: 9/25/2011 12:23:40 AM Cubs fans need to get over it, as long as you have jerkoffs Ramirez and Soriano, that team will go absolutely nowhere.
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Captain Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5669 Location: Canada	#4 Posted: 9/25/2011 12:31:33 AM I can say with 100 percent certainty that if I was in that exact same situation i'd be clearing people out with their hands up. Nothing annoys me more watching a game than home fans interfering with catchable balls for the home team.
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Veteran Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1310 Location:	#5 Posted: 9/25/2011 1:07:37 AM Bartman i believe moved to Montana area if i remember correctly. Sad story, devoted Cubs fans life ruined by a split second reaction to catch a foul ball.
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Veteran Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 2412 Location: United States	#6 Posted: 9/25/2011 2:28:04 AM He had to make a decent killing from interviews or a book though, right?
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Rookie Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 718 Location:	#7 Posted: 9/25/2011 3:11:42 AM I don't think he has ever done an interview. You guys are right, everyone around him was going for the ball, they just did not get a hand on it like he did.
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StraightShooter	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 23227 Location: United States	#8 Posted: 9/25/2011 3:38:41 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP: LOL. All these commercials about the special about him makes me wonder. If I was drunk and sitting where he was, I would have done the same. I feel real sorry for the guy. His life must be ruined. What happened to him? Anyone know? That’s what I found so hilarious about the whole thing. The vast majority of the people that were crucifying him would have done the exact same thing. I think he ended up moving far away and changing his name.
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StraightShooter	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 23227 Location: United States	#9 Posted: 9/25/2011 3:50:42 AM Also a lot of cubs fans conveniently forget that their team had an easy double play ball that would have ended the inning with the cubs having a 3-1 lead with just 3 more outs to go. But, being the cubs, they fucked it up.
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Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 4106 Location:	#10 Posted: 9/25/2011 7:31:56 AM he's an idiot for not cashing in
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Veteran Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4706 Location:	#11 Posted: 9/25/2011 11:12:31 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by LeafsNeedD: I can say with 100 percent certainty that if I was in that exact same situation i'd be clearing people out with their hands up. Nothing annoys me more watching a game than home fans interfering with catchable balls for the home team. Aint no friggin way i'm gonna take a chance of screwing my team from making an out in a play-off game.
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All-Star Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 14374 Location: North Carolina	#12 Posted: 9/25/2011 12:17:17 PM time to let this guy have some peace
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Captain Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 7126 Location: United States	#13 Posted: 9/25/2011 12:24:06 PM The Bartman story is one of the most played out sports stories ever. First off, Alou sucked with the leather, no way he could have caught that ball. Secondly and most important in my opinion was the fact that Alex Gonzales booted a routine double play ball to end the inning. What doesn't the media use him as the goat, like Buckner was. The only thing that Bartman did wrong was the fact that he never defended himself. garbage, if that was me, I'd give everyone a big ole darn off for trying to say the Cubs collapse was because I tried to catch a foul ball headed to my seat. Bartman should have manned up and stood up for himself instead of going into hiding. The kid did nothing wrong.
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Veteran Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4735 Location: United States	#14 Posted: 9/25/2011 3:09:28 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by StraightShooter: Also a lot of cubs fans conveniently forget that their team had an easy double play ball that would have ended the inning with the cubs having a 3-1 lead with just 3 more outs to go. But, being the cubs, they fucked it up. exactly. this is what I used to say all the time when this discussion would come up. What people always fail to mention is how the cubs screwed up and had a key error BEFORE this even happened. And then they still screw up and lost the lead after this happened.
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Veteran Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2183 Location: Wisconsin	#15 Posted: 9/25/2011 4:08:16 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by nc1capper: time to let this guy have some peace Exactly! You make your own breaks. The fact that the Cub fans have bought into this whole thing just adds to the legend that is the Cubs. Pathetic in my opinion.
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Veteran Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2183 Location: Wisconsin	#16 Posted: 9/25/2011 4:08:56 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by StraightShooter: Also a lot of cubs fans conveniently forget that their team had an easy double play ball that would have ended the inning with the cubs having a 3-1 lead with just 3 more outs to go. But, being the cubs, they fucked it up.
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Banned Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 7967 Location: New York	#17 Posted: 9/25/2011 9:56:42 PM The Cubs are losers and so are Cubs fans. Alou should eat a person.
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Veteran Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1310 Location:	#18 Posted: 9/25/2011 10:12:40 PM The loveable losers from Chicago..
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Covers Rehab Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 33122 Location: Nevada	#19 Posted: 9/25/2011 11:40:11 PM I wouldnt have reached over. Why do people say "everyone would have done the same thing?" If you are a fan and have a clue you dont interfere with the ball
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Covers Rehab Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 33122 Location: Nevada	#20 Posted: 9/25/2011 11:40:43 PM That year I had a futures bet on the Cubs and my brother had one on the Marlins
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All-Star Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 12514 Location: Florida	#21 Posted: 9/26/2011 1:02:03 AM Yeah it was all Bartman. The errors by the cubs after that had nothing to do with the outcome. Just Like the eagles coming back on the Giants last year. It was all on the punter kicking to Jackson. The Defense giving up 21 points in 5 minutes before that had no influence on the outcome.
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Hall of Fame Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21313 Location: Pennsylvania	#22 Posted: 9/26/2011 2:04:31 AM Here is the clip of that inning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8OwMeE2MQ I always think about the guy sitting next to him who also reached for the ball, but missed. Luckiest guy in the stadium
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Banned Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 3494 Location: Heard and McDonald Islands	#23 Posted: 9/26/2011 4:26:07 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Skipbone: he's an idiot for not cashing in
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Legend Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 34840 Location: Minnesota	#24 Posted: 9/26/2011 1:25:41 PM Everyone would not have done the same thing, but most of the people around him WERE doing the same thing. It's not like he reached way out into the field of play to try and catch it. Continuing to blame this guy when the Flubs had all sorts of chances after that to close out the game is bush league.
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Veteran Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 2248 Location: Ontario	#25 Posted: 9/26/2011 1:48:22 PM There was a great story on ESPN a couple of years ago about this. He is now in Florida they said. He received numerous death threats and something to do with his children being harassed or something was the final straw and he lefty Chicago for good. Worst part is the back end and history of this guy and how he was a huge fan and had been to so many games over the years and put in lots of money into this organization through tix, memorabilia, etc. He had a crazy shrine in his basement. Included hundreds of tix for back when he was a child til present when this happened. Complete shame and an embarrassment to Chicago and USA sports fans. Just pathetic!
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