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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 3:57 PM ET #1

I have 7 pictures and 3 envelops. The pictures are randomly distributed into the 3 envelops. What is the probability that we have at least one empty envelop?
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I have 7 pictures and 3 envelops. The pictures are randomly distributed into the 3 envelops. What is the probability that we have at least one empty envelop?
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 4:02 PM ET #2

It's been 20 years so I'm a little fuzzy.  I know there is a factorial involved. 
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It's been 20 years so I'm a little fuzzy.  I know there is a factorial involved. 
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 4:10 PM ET #3

you need to learn to spell envelope
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 4:19 PM ET #4

Does the solution give the winner ATS for tonight game?
The first and greatest victory is to conquer self
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Does the solution give the winner ATS for tonight game?
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 4:22 PM ET #5

I think it depends on what they are pictures of.
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I think it depends on what they are pictures of.
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:06 PM ET #6

Yes I know there are factorials involved. It's basically the number of combinations with at least one empty envelop over the total possible number of combinations.

7-0-0, 0-7-0, 0-0-7
6-1-0, 6-0-1, 0-6-1
etc

I found a formula but it gave me an answer like 58% so I must be doing something wrong.

Okay how about this, I will send $5 to the first person that gives me a solution with the equations and formulas. I can pay by PayPal or transfer to your PokerStars account.
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Yes I know there are factorials involved. It's basically the number of combinations with at least one empty envelop over the total possible number of combinations.

7-0-0, 0-7-0, 0-0-7
6-1-0, 6-0-1, 0-6-1
etc

I found a formula but it gave me an answer like 58% so I must be doing something wrong.

Okay how about this, I will send $5 to the first person that gives me a solution with the equations and formulas. I can pay by PayPal or transfer to your PokerStars account.
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:09 PM ET #7

coming to covers to solve a homework problem?
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coming to covers to solve a homework problem?
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:10 PM ET #8

Are the pictures of Brett's Wee Wee
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Are the pictures of Brett's Wee Wee
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:14 PM ET #9

https://www.ask.com/ 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:17 PM ET #10

the letter E,,cuz he missing spelling with " envelop "
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the letter E,,cuz he missing spelling with " envelop "
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:19 PM ET #11

0.054552
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:23 PM ET #12

Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

you need to learn to spell envelope

from Canada, enough said........

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Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

you need to learn to spell envelope

from Canada, enough said........

 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:34 PM ET #13

The probability of a certain event is a number expressing the likelihood that a specific event will occur, expressed as the ratio of the number of actual occurrences to the number of possible occurrences. In mathematics, it is a measure of how often an event will happen and is the basis of statistics. The answer to your question is zero.

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The probability of a certain event is a number expressing the likelihood that a specific event will occur, expressed as the ratio of the number of actual occurrences to the number of possible occurrences. In mathematics, it is a measure of how often an event will happen and is the basis of statistics. The answer to your question is zero.

 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:42 PM ET #14

The answer is zero because you already said they are distributed to all 3 envelopes... so they all have to have at least 1 picture in them?
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The answer is zero because you already said they are distributed to all 3 envelopes... so they all have to have at least 1 picture in them?
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 9:57 PM ET #15

Quote Originally Posted by psace1:



And how did you come up with that ? What's the formula ?

PS: You are close to getting the $5. Unless someone beats you to it.

Come on, doesn't $5 mean a unit to some covers posters? It's free untaxable money for a bit of work.
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And how did you come up with that ? What's the formula ?

PS: You are close to getting the $5. Unless someone beats you to it.

Come on, doesn't $5 mean a unit to some covers posters? It's free untaxable money for a bit of work.
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:01 PM ET #16

Each number represents an "envelope" and the number is the actual number the pictures that are inside the envelope.

700 - 610 - 520 - 430 - 340 - 250 - 160 - 070
601 - 511 - 421 - 331 - 241 - 151 - 061 
502 - 412 - 322 - 232 - 142 - 052
403 - 313 - 223 - 133 - 043
304 - 214 - 124 - 034 
205 - 115 - 025 
106 - 016 
007 

I did it all in sequence to get a better reading.

24 empty envelopes / 108 possibilities = 22.2% that are least one envelope will be empty. 

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Each number represents an "envelope" and the number is the actual number the pictures that are inside the envelope.

700 - 610 - 520 - 430 - 340 - 250 - 160 - 070
601 - 511 - 421 - 331 - 241 - 151 - 061 
502 - 412 - 322 - 232 - 142 - 052
403 - 313 - 223 - 133 - 043
304 - 214 - 124 - 034 
205 - 115 - 025 
106 - 016 
007 

I did it all in sequence to get a better reading.

24 empty envelopes / 108 possibilities = 22.2% that are least one envelope will be empty. 

 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:02 PM ET #17

That didnt come up like I wanted it.

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That didnt come up like I wanted it.

 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:07 PM ET #18

5.85276%
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:08 PM ET #19

Train A arrives 17 minutes before Train B, unless the Bar Car is open......
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Train A arrives 17 minutes before Train B, unless the Bar Car is open......
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:10 PM ET #20

actually 5.8985%  forgot about two being empty
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actually 5.8985%  forgot about two being empty
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:19 PM ET #21

Carry the 1.



Geez. What the hell happened to this thread?


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Carry the 1.



Geez. What the hell happened to this thread?


 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:19 PM ET #22

Quote Originally Posted by papsmear:

actually 5.8985%  forgot about two being empty


you were right the first time.  5.85%
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Quote Originally Posted by papsmear:

actually 5.8985%  forgot about two being empty


you were right the first time.  5.85%
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:20 PM ET #23

it is (2/3)^7
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it is (2/3)^7
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #24

Quote Originally Posted by VGPOP:

Each number represents an "envelope" and the number is the actual number the pictures that are inside the envelope.

700 - 610 - 520 - 430 - 340 - 250 - 160 - 070
601 - 511 - 421 - 331 - 241 - 151 - 061 
502 - 412 - 322 - 232 - 142 - 052
403 - 313 - 223 - 133 - 043
304 - 214 - 124 - 034 
205 - 115 - 025 
106 - 016 
007 

I did it all in sequence to get a better reading.

24 empty envelopes / 108 possibilities = 22.2% that are least one envelope will be empty. 



How did you come up with 108 possibilities? Seems to me you skipped a lot of possibilities and mixed combination that include and don't include the empty envelopes.
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Quote Originally Posted by VGPOP:

Each number represents an "envelope" and the number is the actual number the pictures that are inside the envelope.

700 - 610 - 520 - 430 - 340 - 250 - 160 - 070
601 - 511 - 421 - 331 - 241 - 151 - 061 
502 - 412 - 322 - 232 - 142 - 052
403 - 313 - 223 - 133 - 043
304 - 214 - 124 - 034 
205 - 115 - 025 
106 - 016 
007 

I did it all in sequence to get a better reading.

24 empty envelopes / 108 possibilities = 22.2% that are least one envelope will be empty. 



How did you come up with 108 possibilities? Seems to me you skipped a lot of possibilities and mixed combination that include and don't include the empty envelopes.
 
 
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Posted: Oct. 11, 2010 - 10:33 PM ET #25

Mods can you fix this thread please?

The original question was:

I have 7 pictures and 3 envelops. The pictures are randomly distributed into the 3 envelops. What is the probability that we have at least one empty envelop?

Now how did the 5.85% come around? I need the formulas. I will up the money to $10 ($5 to two people if I find they both contributed equally).
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Mods can you fix this thread please?

The original question was:

I have 7 pictures and 3 envelops. The pictures are randomly distributed into the 3 envelops. What is the probability that we have at least one empty envelop?

Now how did the 5.85% come around? I need the formulas. I will up the money to $10 ($5 to two people if I find they both contributed equally).
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