- - - - why in hell can't we develop a football helmet that prevents concussions?
The hard outer shell of the modern helmet is, I think, what causes the concussions, which seem just a plentiful this year as any time in the past (despite the new rule about helmet to helmet hits, the great majority of which arn not, IMO, deliberate)
I'm wondering if there were as many concussions back in the old days of leather helmets?
Maybe a composite of soft material on outside, hard inside, and the same kind of interior strap nests as we have today?
But the disadvantage of that is that it would be harder to put colorful team logos on the soft outer material, and so NFL gear sales would suffer.
Never put anything past the greed of the NFL
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- - - - why in hell can't we develop a football helmet that prevents concussions?
The hard outer shell of the modern helmet is, I think, what causes the concussions, which seem just a plentiful this year as any time in the past (despite the new rule about helmet to helmet hits, the great majority of which arn not, IMO, deliberate)
I'm wondering if there were as many concussions back in the old days of leather helmets?
Maybe a composite of soft material on outside, hard inside, and the same kind of interior strap nests as we have today?
But the disadvantage of that is that it would be harder to put colorful team logos on the soft outer material, and so NFL gear sales would suffer.
In the old days the players were generally not as big and not as fast. They also tended not to be as aggressive since all they had was leather protecting their noggins.
Also, football was mostly about running so there was not really the running start and flying through the air to hit an opponent going for a catch.
They probably can't make a helmet that completely prevents concussions but both Riddell and Schutt make helmets that significantly reduce the risk of a concussion.
The problem is the NFL doesn't mandate the use of these helmets. Why not? Like with the new baseball helmet they are bigger and the players worry more about how they will look then the protection they will get.
Yes greed runs rampant through society (not just corporations) but vanity is just as bad if not worse.
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In the old days the players were generally not as big and not as fast. They also tended not to be as aggressive since all they had was leather protecting their noggins.
Also, football was mostly about running so there was not really the running start and flying through the air to hit an opponent going for a catch.
They probably can't make a helmet that completely prevents concussions but both Riddell and Schutt make helmets that significantly reduce the risk of a concussion.
The problem is the NFL doesn't mandate the use of these helmets. Why not? Like with the new baseball helmet they are bigger and the players worry more about how they will look then the protection they will get.
Yes greed runs rampant through society (not just corporations) but vanity is just as bad if not worse.
Both comments excellent, and most likely accurate.
Greed and vanity. Many commercials play off the vanity of people.
Well, just watched a terrific NFL game, and I'lll read for an hour, and then to Morpheus for the pause that refreshes. I'm afraid to go into the other thread on top of this that I started ---- likely a bunch of modern Savonarolas waiting with rack and thumbscrew. And O'Brien types from the Ministry of Truth informing me kindly (at first) that I have indeed committed a thoughtcrime.
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Both comments excellent, and most likely accurate.
Greed and vanity. Many commercials play off the vanity of people.
Well, just watched a terrific NFL game, and I'lll read for an hour, and then to Morpheus for the pause that refreshes. I'm afraid to go into the other thread on top of this that I started ---- likely a bunch of modern Savonarolas waiting with rack and thumbscrew. And O'Brien types from the Ministry of Truth informing me kindly (at first) that I have indeed committed a thoughtcrime.
If you know what a concussion is, you will realize the helmet has nothing to do with it.
The brain hitting the skull is a concussion. ( a violent enough impact where the cerebrospinal fluid doesn't buffer the impact )
Basic law of physics... An object in motion will continue in motion, in the same direction and the same speed, until an opposite force acts upon the object.
At that point, the object ( the brain ) will continue going the same direction as it was going ( and it will impact the skull )
The helmet could be 10 feet thick, when the head in the helmet stops quickly, the brain will want to continue going the same direction as the head was going BEFORE the opposite force stopped it.
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If you know what a concussion is, you will realize the helmet has nothing to do with it.
The brain hitting the skull is a concussion. ( a violent enough impact where the cerebrospinal fluid doesn't buffer the impact )
Basic law of physics... An object in motion will continue in motion, in the same direction and the same speed, until an opposite force acts upon the object.
At that point, the object ( the brain ) will continue going the same direction as it was going ( and it will impact the skull )
The helmet could be 10 feet thick, when the head in the helmet stops quickly, the brain will want to continue going the same direction as the head was going BEFORE the opposite force stopped it.
If you know what a concussion is, you will realize the helmet has nothing to do with it.
The brain hitting the skull is a concussion. ( a violent enough impact where the cerebrospinal fluid doesn't buffer the impact )
Basic law of physics... An object in motion will continue in motion, in the same direction and the same speed, until an opposite force acts upon the object.
At that point, the object ( the brain ) will continue going the same direction as it was going ( and it will impact the skull )
The helmet could be 10 feet thick, when the head in the helmet stops quickly, the brain will want to continue going the same direction as the head was going BEFORE the opposite force stopped it.
That sounds great, but it's definitely not right on point.
The more room you have to pad the collision (or to slow to collision so that it takes more time to slow the impact) the less force there will be on the brain. More padded space = more area to reduce the impact and absorb the energy = fewer concussions
Unfortunately most football players don't get serious brain injuries because of the one big hit, its more from the constant hits to the head that they take on a daily basis. The one big hit may cause the damage but the reason it causes so much damage is because they have been beating their heads off of other players hundreds of times a day since before high school.
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Quote Originally Posted by AlexPKeaton:
If you know what a concussion is, you will realize the helmet has nothing to do with it.
The brain hitting the skull is a concussion. ( a violent enough impact where the cerebrospinal fluid doesn't buffer the impact )
Basic law of physics... An object in motion will continue in motion, in the same direction and the same speed, until an opposite force acts upon the object.
At that point, the object ( the brain ) will continue going the same direction as it was going ( and it will impact the skull )
The helmet could be 10 feet thick, when the head in the helmet stops quickly, the brain will want to continue going the same direction as the head was going BEFORE the opposite force stopped it.
That sounds great, but it's definitely not right on point.
The more room you have to pad the collision (or to slow to collision so that it takes more time to slow the impact) the less force there will be on the brain. More padded space = more area to reduce the impact and absorb the energy = fewer concussions
Unfortunately most football players don't get serious brain injuries because of the one big hit, its more from the constant hits to the head that they take on a daily basis. The one big hit may cause the damage but the reason it causes so much damage is because they have been beating their heads off of other players hundreds of times a day since before high school.
the apollo moon landing was filmed in a hollwood studio why have we not been back or how come the russians never made it there cold war bs radition would kill you radition back to the question see newtons 1st law
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the apollo moon landing was filmed in a hollwood studio why have we not been back or how come the russians never made it there cold war bs radition would kill you radition back to the question see newtons 1st law
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