I don't think much of Miami at all, look at their games this season other than when they played A&M (the only respectable performance on their schedule in my opinion), they beat Duke and Florida International by 10 and 14 points in Orange Bowl, neither of those teams is as good as Carolina, now they up to Carolina to face Butch Davis (obviously their former coach) and their laying over a touchdown? Not in this lifetime my friend, I made the line at 5.5 and was going to consider taking Carolina at that spread, they put it out at 8.5 and reeled me in, I think the Heels will compete hard in this one and have a very realistic shot at winning, the Canes aren't good enough to be laying this on the road, plain and simple reasoning going into this play along with some gut feel![]()
I don't think much of Miami at all, look at their games this season other than when they played A&M (the only respectable performance on their schedule in my opinion), they beat Duke and Florida International by 10 and 14 points in Orange Bowl, neither of those teams is as good as Carolina, now they up to Carolina to face Butch Davis (obviously their former coach) and their laying over a touchdown? Not in this lifetime my friend, I made the line at 5.5 and was going to consider taking Carolina at that spread, they put it out at 8.5 and reeled me in, I think the Heels will compete hard in this one and have a very realistic shot at winning, the Canes aren't good enough to be laying this on the road, plain and simple reasoning going into this play along with some gut feel![]()
Wash St. + 10 now + 8.5
Wyoming + 1.5 now - 2
Georgia PK now + 2
USC - 39.5 now - 37.5
Houston + 13 now + 11
I just gave you some examples of what each of those lines opened at and what you can currently get them at, lines move like that each and every week, I am generally very good at predicting line movement and I try to get the most value, my advice to you if you want to do the same and click on Bookmaker at 5:50 pm each Sunday and print the opening lines when they come out, then compare those lines to the ones you see on Saturday, you will find many changes of 2 points or more, I have had good lines for a couple of weeks this year, I have done a great job of predicting line movement, but only once has a game I took won from my opening line bet vs. what everyone else could get on Saturday (Co St. +13 last week, I won, the line finished at +10, they lost by 12), usually line movement doesn't come into play, but for the few times a year it does I hope I am on the right side, gambling is hard enough bro, you might as well try to get any advantage you can![]()
Wash St. + 10 now + 8.5
Wyoming + 1.5 now - 2
Georgia PK now + 2
USC - 39.5 now - 37.5
Houston + 13 now + 11
I just gave you some examples of what each of those lines opened at and what you can currently get them at, lines move like that each and every week, I am generally very good at predicting line movement and I try to get the most value, my advice to you if you want to do the same and click on Bookmaker at 5:50 pm each Sunday and print the opening lines when they come out, then compare those lines to the ones you see on Saturday, you will find many changes of 2 points or more, I have had good lines for a couple of weeks this year, I have done a great job of predicting line movement, but only once has a game I took won from my opening line bet vs. what everyone else could get on Saturday (Co St. +13 last week, I won, the line finished at +10, they lost by 12), usually line movement doesn't come into play, but for the few times a year it does I hope I am on the right side, gambling is hard enough bro, you might as well try to get any advantage you can![]()
Wahoo, while I agree that the Canes are not as good as they will be in years to come, I must take issue with your "plain and simple reasoning" and post my dissent is as follows:
There cannot be a question as to accuracy of the Miami quarterbacking as of late: 21-26 against A&M and 20-25 against Duke. Combine those stats and you will clearly see that UM qb’s have been 41-51 with 2INT’s in the past 2 games. Keep in mind that Wright has been the starter and has taken all but 2 of the pass attempts referred to.
However, there is a question of decision making on the part of Kyle Wright. If you watched the Duke game, which you were unable to do, you would have seen that Wright threw an interception in Duke’s endzone on a 1st down in the 3rd Q that allowed Duke a gigantic momentum shift. Coupled with a missed field goal to end the 1st half, in the open endzone of the Orange Bowl, with 25knot WSW winds the Canes should have been up 20-0 over Duke. On the ensuing drive Calais Campbell was flagged with a late hit on the qb call on a 3rd and 18 play to keep Duke’s drive alive. Duke converts a 41yd passing touchdown beating Randy Phillips in man coverage to make the score 10-7.
The game could have easily have been over in the second drive of the 3rd Q. However, mental errors and lack luster effort on the part of both offense and defense created an appearance, albeit a warranted one, that the Canes are “plain and simpl[ly]” not good.
If you were at the game, which again, you were not, or if you had watched the game, which you did not, you would have seen the domination exerted by the Canes in the 1st quarter, which, as was apparent by most top 10 teams this week, was only to be seen again in the 4th quarter when the Canes were challenged.
I could speak of Miami’s rushing attack as of the season but I will refer to the latin phrase “res ipsa locquitor” which means “the thing speaks for itself.”
UNC cannot be considered at the same level as the University of Miami, in terms of talent, physicality, confidence, and as their record would indicate, ability. This will be UNC’s super bowl as, it is for most teams, (FIU, Duke) in order to claim they have knocked off the Canes, which is in retaliation for the Canes domination of the early 2000’s. Butch Davis will be good for UNC, but not this year, and not against UM.
Wahoo, while I agree that the Canes are not as good as they will be in years to come, I must take issue with your "plain and simple reasoning" and post my dissent is as follows:
There cannot be a question as to accuracy of the Miami quarterbacking as of late: 21-26 against A&M and 20-25 against Duke. Combine those stats and you will clearly see that UM qb’s have been 41-51 with 2INT’s in the past 2 games. Keep in mind that Wright has been the starter and has taken all but 2 of the pass attempts referred to.
However, there is a question of decision making on the part of Kyle Wright. If you watched the Duke game, which you were unable to do, you would have seen that Wright threw an interception in Duke’s endzone on a 1st down in the 3rd Q that allowed Duke a gigantic momentum shift. Coupled with a missed field goal to end the 1st half, in the open endzone of the Orange Bowl, with 25knot WSW winds the Canes should have been up 20-0 over Duke. On the ensuing drive Calais Campbell was flagged with a late hit on the qb call on a 3rd and 18 play to keep Duke’s drive alive. Duke converts a 41yd passing touchdown beating Randy Phillips in man coverage to make the score 10-7.
The game could have easily have been over in the second drive of the 3rd Q. However, mental errors and lack luster effort on the part of both offense and defense created an appearance, albeit a warranted one, that the Canes are “plain and simpl[ly]” not good.
If you were at the game, which again, you were not, or if you had watched the game, which you did not, you would have seen the domination exerted by the Canes in the 1st quarter, which, as was apparent by most top 10 teams this week, was only to be seen again in the 4th quarter when the Canes were challenged.
I could speak of Miami’s rushing attack as of the season but I will refer to the latin phrase “res ipsa locquitor” which means “the thing speaks for itself.”
UNC cannot be considered at the same level as the University of Miami, in terms of talent, physicality, confidence, and as their record would indicate, ability. This will be UNC’s super bowl as, it is for most teams, (FIU, Duke) in order to claim they have knocked off the Canes, which is in retaliation for the Canes domination of the early 2000’s. Butch Davis will be good for UNC, but not this year, and not against UM.
If recruiting, discipline, and team attitude is any indication of how a team may do in the future, and I make no claim as to the validity of that presumption, then the Canes will be a national competitor in the years to come. Make no mistake, this may be a close game, but it may well be a blowout by the start of the 3rd Q. And mark it down in your Phill Steelle, the Canes will win.
This post is not meant to be an attack against you personally Wahoo, or considered as smart or cute in anyway. I love open discussion about football and I feel that the betters on this forum have the right to informed information. This is just my opinion and analysis which differs from Wahoo’s and others on this forum. This is just my two cents, and nothing more. And if it was not obvious enough in my analysis, I am a Canes homer.
If recruiting, discipline, and team attitude is any indication of how a team may do in the future, and I make no claim as to the validity of that presumption, then the Canes will be a national competitor in the years to come. Make no mistake, this may be a close game, but it may well be a blowout by the start of the 3rd Q. And mark it down in your Phill Steelle, the Canes will win.
This post is not meant to be an attack against you personally Wahoo, or considered as smart or cute in anyway. I love open discussion about football and I feel that the betters on this forum have the right to informed information. This is just my opinion and analysis which differs from Wahoo’s and others on this forum. This is just my two cents, and nothing more. And if it was not obvious enough in my analysis, I am a Canes homer.
If recruiting, discipline, and team attitude is any indication of how a team may do in the future, and I make no claim as to the validity of that presumption, then the Canes will be a national competitor in the years to come. Make no mistake, this may be a close game, but it may well be a blowout by the start of the 3rd Q. And mark it down in your Phill Steelle, the Canes will win.
This post is not meant to be an attack against you personally Wahoo, or considered as smart or cute in anyway. I love open discussion about football and I feel that the betters on this forum have the right to informed information. This is just my opinion and analysis which differs from Wahoo’s and others on this forum. This is just my two cents, and nothing more. And if it was not obvious enough in my analysis, I am a Canes homer.
I'm not concerned how Miami won their games or how they didn't score as many as they should have against teams like Duke or Florida International, all I care about is that they beat those dogshit teams by 14 and 10 points. I think the Aggie win is somewhat respectable, but the Aggie pass defense would make any QB in the country look good, they have one of the worst pass defenses in college football for about 3 years running now, throw in the fact that they turned the ball over every other posession and you get a Miami win, I don't think Miami is very good bro and since I'm not one to sugarcoat things I will just say my true opinion of them (their overvalued as usual), does this mean Carolina is any good or that Carolina will get the cover this Saturday? Absolutely not, but it is my opinion that these two teams aren't that far apart, I could be wrong, we will find out on Saturday![]()
thanks for sharing your thoughts, I do hope your team returns to their old selves eventually, it is better for college football when Miami is a powerhouse![]()
If recruiting, discipline, and team attitude is any indication of how a team may do in the future, and I make no claim as to the validity of that presumption, then the Canes will be a national competitor in the years to come. Make no mistake, this may be a close game, but it may well be a blowout by the start of the 3rd Q. And mark it down in your Phill Steelle, the Canes will win.
This post is not meant to be an attack against you personally Wahoo, or considered as smart or cute in anyway. I love open discussion about football and I feel that the betters on this forum have the right to informed information. This is just my opinion and analysis which differs from Wahoo’s and others on this forum. This is just my two cents, and nothing more. And if it was not obvious enough in my analysis, I am a Canes homer.
I'm not concerned how Miami won their games or how they didn't score as many as they should have against teams like Duke or Florida International, all I care about is that they beat those dogshit teams by 14 and 10 points. I think the Aggie win is somewhat respectable, but the Aggie pass defense would make any QB in the country look good, they have one of the worst pass defenses in college football for about 3 years running now, throw in the fact that they turned the ball over every other posession and you get a Miami win, I don't think Miami is very good bro and since I'm not one to sugarcoat things I will just say my true opinion of them (their overvalued as usual), does this mean Carolina is any good or that Carolina will get the cover this Saturday? Absolutely not, but it is my opinion that these two teams aren't that far apart, I could be wrong, we will find out on Saturday![]()
thanks for sharing your thoughts, I do hope your team returns to their old selves eventually, it is better for college football when Miami is a powerhouse![]()

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