teams with new o-lines

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Michfan15 PM Michfan15
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Posted: 7/18/2012 2:06:21 PM
anybody take this angle and fade teams with inexperienced o-lines?  interesting to note
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Posted: 7/18/2012 4:36:31 PM
one of many things to consider...not automatic, depends on the players coming in and who they're playing
DoubleUp4Life PM DoubleUp4Life
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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:36:43 AM
If 1/5 is back and the others have not had much burn .... 
bookieassassin PM bookieassassin
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Posted: 7/19/2012 1:51:11 PM
2 or less maybe suggests an 'investigation'.....

***KEY > can the guys coming back play?.....

If LY's line was great....these guys (even with nobody coming back) could be very good.....if previous line stunk...they could be terrible

*if combined with a new QB.....and a new HC
therefore learning new terminology/systems.....watch out
and if facing a very aggressive defensive front EARLY....they could be in trouble

If you really want to be thorough.....you should go the team's official website....

 http://www.philsteele.com/FBSInfo/schoollinks.html

*look in cumulative/individual game stats.....a guy with few starts might have played a ton.....
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:22:42 AM
good stuff thanks...off the top of my head i'll be looking to fade stanford with Luck's replacemetn coming in, no fleeter and im sure the o-line will have to adjust to the new qb...just a thought
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:37:33 AM
career OL starts back......

1    Ball St           115
2
    NC State    112
3
    West Virginia    105
3
    Tennessee    105
5
    LSU         104
6
    FIU            103
7
    Oklahoma    102
8
    Kent St      101
9
    Ohio             98
10
    Eastern Michigan  95
10
    Alabama      95
10
    Texas A&M    95
13
    Central Michigan    94
14
    North Carolina    93
15
    Louisiana Tech    92
16
    Duke    90
17
    UCF    89
18
    Miami, Oh    88
18
    WKU    88
20
    Umass    85
21
    Georgia Tech    83
22
    UNLV    82
23
    Southern Miss    80
24
    Florida    79
25
    Bowling Green    78
26
    Baylor    77
26
    BYU    77
28
    Virginia      76
28
    Rutgers    76
30
    Kansas    75
30
    San Diego St    75
30
    Nevada    75
33
    Louisville    74
33
    Michigan St    74
33
    UCLA    74
36
    Northwestern    73
36
    Louisiana     73
38
    Buffalo    72
39
    Houston    71
40
    Tulsa    70
41
    Texas Tech    69
41
    ULM    69
43
    Illinois    68
43
    East Carolina    68
43
    Western Michigan    68
43
    Missouri    68
47
    North Texas     67
48
    Boston College    66
48
    Utah St    66
48
    San Jose St    66
51
    Notre Dame    65
51
    New Mexico    65
51
    Utah    65
51
    Oregon    65
51
    Arkansas      65
56
    Michigan    64
56
    Wyoming    64
56
    Boise St    64
59
    Syracuse    63
59
    Texas       63
59
    Oklahoma St    63
59
    California    63

63
    Washington    62
64
    Arizona     61
64
    South Carolina    61
66
    USC         60
66
    Vanderbilt    60
68
    New Mexico St    59
69
    Indiana     58
70
    Washington St    57
70
    Mississippi    57
70
    FAU    57
73
    Colorado St    56
73
    Troy    56
75
    Iowa St    53
75
    UTEP    53
77
    Pittsburgh    52
78
    Fresno St    51
78
    Colorado    51
80
    Florida St    50
80
    Tulane      50
80
    Oregon St    50
80
    Kentucky    50
84
    Purdue      49
84
    Wisconsin    49
86
    Clemson     48
86
    Connecticut    48
86
    UTSA        48
89
    Arizona St    47
90
    Maryland    46
90
    USF    46
92
    Iowa      45
92
    Army    45
94
    Nebraska    44
94
    Marshall    44
96
    Kansas St    43
96
    Miss S t    43
96
    Texas St    43
99
    Ohio St     42
99
    Memphis     42
101
    Minnesota    40
102
    Air Force    39
103
    Stanford    37
103
    Middle Tennessee    37
105
    Miami, Fl    36
106
    Auburn    35
107
    Navy    34
107
    Akron    34
109
    Arkansas St    33
110
    Georgia    31
110
    Idaho    31
112
    South Alabama    30
113
    Temple    29
114
    Cincinnati    28
114
    TCU    28
116
    Toledo    26
117
    SMU    24
117
    Northern Illinois    24
119
    Hawaii    20
120
    Wake Forest    19
121
    Virginia Tech    17
121
    Penn St    17
121
    UAB    17
124
    Rice    15
bookieassassin PM bookieassassin
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:51:09 AM
from Steele seems like......maybe a better indicator than # of starters

forget Stanford.....they'll be fine

a few at the bottom kinda just leap off the page....

consider SMU....0 starters back......and a QB that hasn't taken a snap yet......G Gilbert had to spend the spring taking 27 hours or so (holy crap) to graduate......to become eligible at SMU....later...he may be fine since this is the offense he ran in high school ....plus June Jones has been trying to leave for 2 years....but can't get hired

HAWAII.......
UAB....Rice....Idaho?
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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:21:58 AM
good stuff bookie 

lets start the rice-fade train - seems like there will be some pretty lobsided games in ConfUSA this season
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Posted: 7/20/2012 12:49:47 PM

good info

Thanks 

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Posted: 7/20/2012 1:14:52 PM
Hawaii ....
with a new coach + new QB + on the road + bad OL + facing an aggressive/more talented DL + all new calls/blocking schemes/techniques....looks like the best one to fade

*it seems like many here don't realize the old Hawaii offense is GONE.....they are NOW running an offense more familiar to USC.....than them.....UH-OH....
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Posted: 7/20/2012 4:03:22 PM
of course, at the top of the list, teams like kent st and ball st having their crappy lines returning is not a good thing.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 4:05:31 PM

Good thread!

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Posted: 7/20/2012 4:24:24 PM
Norm Chow's first coaching job now- didn't have a terrible performance in Utah but wasn't spectacular either.  Also must consider the change from pac 12 opponents to WAC he may fare just fine but there are several factors working against him as you pointed out
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:06:15 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

from Steele seems like......maybe a better indicator than # of starters

Agree, # of starts is better than # of starters, but the best inidcator would be # of snaps, but I think only a few schools chart this number.  If two guys get equals snaps, one of them is a starter in name only.  Not sure how many schools rotate the O Line...
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