BYUCoaching- lots of coaching changes, but no new schemes. New offensive coordinator was former qb coach got job after last years OC resigned and became Arizona’s o line coach. The team started to put up good numbers at the end of last year, but it was against inferior competition.
QB- Jake heaps is nice! He was one of the nation’s top recruits at qbs and really started to show it towards the end of last year. He was great in the spring game and the coaches are raving about him. If he takes the step forward I think he will BYU will be a team to reckon with. If he is fantastic they still have a good running game that he can rely on.
RB- Luigi can run and catch the ball with over 1,400 yards from scrimmage last year. He should continue to improve and could be in line for a big season. They have a nice complementary back as well.All 3 top rushers are back and could be in line for a big season. BYU had 7 200 yard rushing games last year. With an improved unit a good qb and a good line the holes could really open up.
WR- last year was a disappointing year for BYU’s receivers. They have the talent but they didn’t put up the numbers. This year they return almost everyone except for suspended chambers who was suspended. They have size and speed with the receivers and Apo is a playmaker who was hurt last year. They also return their starting tight end who they hope will continue to improve.
Oline-BYU returns 4 starters on the line and could be one of the nation’s best this year. They have an All-America talented tackle to protect heaps blindside which is very important. The only opening is the RG spot where 3 people are competing so there should be a solid starter there.
Defense- they return 6 starters, but 2 starting players were hurt last year so they don’t count. Bronco Mendenhall will continue to coach the defense in his 3-4 scheme. Getting to the quarterback has been this teams issue.
Defensive Line- This dline returns all 3 starters. Fuga is a big run stuffing NT and they have 2 hogmollys at defensive end. The front 3 won’t be getting much pressure on the quarterback, but they will beeffective against the run.Not much was lost from last year on the defensive line.
Linebackers- This is the strength of the defense. They have some real playmakers back here, and with those 3 big guys up front should really be able to get out in space and make some plays. Pendleton is probably the best of the bunch he is returning this year after being injured last year. They return the other 3 starters as well and this year USC transfer Uona Kaveinga finally gets to play. He was rated the number 5 linebacker in 2008. This unit will be much improved and teams will struggle to run on BYU.
Defensive Backs- Now we come to the issue of BYU. They only return one starter he FS Travis Uhale. They lost all MWC safety Andrew Ritch. They have a safety who returns from a mission trip who used to play linebacker, but his natural position is safety in Daniel Sorenson. He should be a good up in the box safety, but BYU is already very good against the run this year.
Special Teams- They loses their kicker and has no true replacement. They have a fine punter, and not real electrify returner. They were excellent in punt coverage last year, but for some reason really struggled covering kickoffs.
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BYUCoaching- lots of coaching changes, but no new schemes. New offensive coordinator was former qb coach got job after last years OC resigned and became Arizona’s o line coach. The team started to put up good numbers at the end of last year, but it was against inferior competition.
QB- Jake heaps is nice! He was one of the nation’s top recruits at qbs and really started to show it towards the end of last year. He was great in the spring game and the coaches are raving about him. If he takes the step forward I think he will BYU will be a team to reckon with. If he is fantastic they still have a good running game that he can rely on.
RB- Luigi can run and catch the ball with over 1,400 yards from scrimmage last year. He should continue to improve and could be in line for a big season. They have a nice complementary back as well.All 3 top rushers are back and could be in line for a big season. BYU had 7 200 yard rushing games last year. With an improved unit a good qb and a good line the holes could really open up.
WR- last year was a disappointing year for BYU’s receivers. They have the talent but they didn’t put up the numbers. This year they return almost everyone except for suspended chambers who was suspended. They have size and speed with the receivers and Apo is a playmaker who was hurt last year. They also return their starting tight end who they hope will continue to improve.
Oline-BYU returns 4 starters on the line and could be one of the nation’s best this year. They have an All-America talented tackle to protect heaps blindside which is very important. The only opening is the RG spot where 3 people are competing so there should be a solid starter there.
Defense- they return 6 starters, but 2 starting players were hurt last year so they don’t count. Bronco Mendenhall will continue to coach the defense in his 3-4 scheme. Getting to the quarterback has been this teams issue.
Defensive Line- This dline returns all 3 starters. Fuga is a big run stuffing NT and they have 2 hogmollys at defensive end. The front 3 won’t be getting much pressure on the quarterback, but they will beeffective against the run.Not much was lost from last year on the defensive line.
Linebackers- This is the strength of the defense. They have some real playmakers back here, and with those 3 big guys up front should really be able to get out in space and make some plays. Pendleton is probably the best of the bunch he is returning this year after being injured last year. They return the other 3 starters as well and this year USC transfer Uona Kaveinga finally gets to play. He was rated the number 5 linebacker in 2008. This unit will be much improved and teams will struggle to run on BYU.
Defensive Backs- Now we come to the issue of BYU. They only return one starter he FS Travis Uhale. They lost all MWC safety Andrew Ritch. They have a safety who returns from a mission trip who used to play linebacker, but his natural position is safety in Daniel Sorenson. He should be a good up in the box safety, but BYU is already very good against the run this year.
Special Teams- They loses their kicker and has no true replacement. They have a fine punter, and not real electrify returner. They were excellent in punt coverage last year, but for some reason really struggled covering kickoffs.
OleMissQB- Just what every winning team wants a quarterback controversy. NOT! This team has 3 players competing for the starting spot with no clear front runner as of now. The projected starter is Barry Brunetti who is a dual threat quarterback. They also have Mackey a JC transfer who is a Solid passer. My issue with this group is that I don’t think any of them are that good, and with a 3 way competition the reps become limited.
Rb- Brandon Bolden is a stud. He isn’t a burner but he will run over you, and he has a knack for the end zone. There is depth at this position and they add a scat back transfer from Miami to add another dimension.
Wr- they leading returning receiver this year is Brandon Bolden the Rb. That’s a problem with inexperienced QBs. Melvin Harris is their top receiver, he is 6’6” so their hope is that he can really go up and get it. Ja-mes Logan also returns. Both of these guys were around 30 catches 380 yards. As your number 2 receivers you need more than that with inexperienced qbs.
Oline- These boys are big. And when I say big I mean big, their average size is 6’6” 330 lbs. They return 4 starters and their newcomer is Arkansas transfer matt hall at 6’9”. These guys are able to great some holes for Bolden.The should be able to give whoever the qb is some time as well, which he is going to need because he is likely to be making mistakes.
Dline- this is a team that doesn’t get to the qb. They only have 1 player returning with more than 3 sacks and he just tore his acl.They also gave up 35 points a game last year. With a bad secondary they need to get a pass rush on the qb to improve these numbers. They will count on 6th year player kentrell locket to get a pass rush, but to start the season he may be a little bit slow.
Linebackers- this team loses 4/5 top tacklers from last year.their top returning tackler is a safety. Their middle linebacker is just 5’9 and can get swallowed up last year. This team could struggle against the run this year.
Defensive Backs- this team gave up 61 percent completion percentage and over 240 yards a game in the air last year. They ranked 107 in defense points per game. They were bad and their returning safety if an up in the box type player in Damien Jackson.They have a new secondary coach who wants to play more aggressive. These corners are going to try and play like Asante Samuel. While they are going to get a pick they will still give up a few huge plays. They are counting on sophomore corner Mike Marry this year to grow up fast.
Special Teams-They have a great punter one of the best in the country. They have an accurate kicker, but he lacks a big leg, can’t make much outside of 40. They lose a good returner and hope Scott can fill that role. They were horrendous in kick and punt coverage.
My Pick- When ole miss has the ball I see strength vs. strength and weakness vs. weakness. Ole miss can really run the ball but that is what BYU will do best stopping especially with a converted linebacker playing safety. I am not sure that whoever plays qb for ole miss will be able to take advantage of BYU’s suspect secondary. The advantage becomes when BYU has the ball. They will be able to both run and throw on ole miss. Heaps will be able to pick on an inexperienced secondary with mostly first year players starting. They will be able to run the ball with Luigi against a weak linebacker core. And that great o line should be able to get Heaps all day to find his already open wide receivers. My pick is Byu -2.5 2 units.
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OleMissQB- Just what every winning team wants a quarterback controversy. NOT! This team has 3 players competing for the starting spot with no clear front runner as of now. The projected starter is Barry Brunetti who is a dual threat quarterback. They also have Mackey a JC transfer who is a Solid passer. My issue with this group is that I don’t think any of them are that good, and with a 3 way competition the reps become limited.
Rb- Brandon Bolden is a stud. He isn’t a burner but he will run over you, and he has a knack for the end zone. There is depth at this position and they add a scat back transfer from Miami to add another dimension.
Wr- they leading returning receiver this year is Brandon Bolden the Rb. That’s a problem with inexperienced QBs. Melvin Harris is their top receiver, he is 6’6” so their hope is that he can really go up and get it. Ja-mes Logan also returns. Both of these guys were around 30 catches 380 yards. As your number 2 receivers you need more than that with inexperienced qbs.
Oline- These boys are big. And when I say big I mean big, their average size is 6’6” 330 lbs. They return 4 starters and their newcomer is Arkansas transfer matt hall at 6’9”. These guys are able to great some holes for Bolden.The should be able to give whoever the qb is some time as well, which he is going to need because he is likely to be making mistakes.
Dline- this is a team that doesn’t get to the qb. They only have 1 player returning with more than 3 sacks and he just tore his acl.They also gave up 35 points a game last year. With a bad secondary they need to get a pass rush on the qb to improve these numbers. They will count on 6th year player kentrell locket to get a pass rush, but to start the season he may be a little bit slow.
Linebackers- this team loses 4/5 top tacklers from last year.their top returning tackler is a safety. Their middle linebacker is just 5’9 and can get swallowed up last year. This team could struggle against the run this year.
Defensive Backs- this team gave up 61 percent completion percentage and over 240 yards a game in the air last year. They ranked 107 in defense points per game. They were bad and their returning safety if an up in the box type player in Damien Jackson.They have a new secondary coach who wants to play more aggressive. These corners are going to try and play like Asante Samuel. While they are going to get a pick they will still give up a few huge plays. They are counting on sophomore corner Mike Marry this year to grow up fast.
Special Teams-They have a great punter one of the best in the country. They have an accurate kicker, but he lacks a big leg, can’t make much outside of 40. They lose a good returner and hope Scott can fill that role. They were horrendous in kick and punt coverage.
My Pick- When ole miss has the ball I see strength vs. strength and weakness vs. weakness. Ole miss can really run the ball but that is what BYU will do best stopping especially with a converted linebacker playing safety. I am not sure that whoever plays qb for ole miss will be able to take advantage of BYU’s suspect secondary. The advantage becomes when BYU has the ball. They will be able to both run and throw on ole miss. Heaps will be able to pick on an inexperienced secondary with mostly first year players starting. They will be able to run the ball with Luigi against a weak linebacker core. And that great o line should be able to get Heaps all day to find his already open wide receivers. My pick is Byu -2.5 2 units.
forgot to add the homefield advantage part. phil steele gives ole miss a 3.75 point adavantage at home. however with loses at home last year to jacksonville state and vandy, not sure it should be that high
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forgot to add the homefield advantage part. phil steele gives ole miss a 3.75 point adavantage at home. however with loses at home last year to jacksonville state and vandy, not sure it should be that high
I played for nutt at arkansas. If he thinks this game is important watch out. The guy is a motivator. He will win games he shouldn't and lose one he shouldn't.
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I played for nutt at arkansas. If he thinks this game is important watch out. The guy is a motivator. He will win games he shouldn't and lose one he shouldn't.
I am staying way too. Kinda of like Ole Miss, but with questions at QB and a lack of discipline that seems to always haunt them, I can't pull the trigger.
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I am staying way too. Kinda of like Ole Miss, but with questions at QB and a lack of discipline that seems to always haunt them, I can't pull the trigger.
Ole Miss wins this one SU... I hate Ole Miss, but they will pound away and take advantage of the heat and humidity advantage...
I agree Corley. BYU wll most likely be playing in the insufferable heat of Oxford. People in about half of the country do not fully comprehend how big the heat and humidity factor is, and how it absolutely saps your strength and energy like a sponge, particularly when you're not acclimated to it.
SEC teams deal with big offense lines just about every week. That will be nothing new for Ole Miss. In fact virtually this same offensive line was overwhelmed by Florida State's front seven last season. The bigger mismatch in this game is Ole Miss' o-line against BYU's front seven.
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Quote Originally Posted by Corley1011:
Ole Miss wins this one SU... I hate Ole Miss, but they will pound away and take advantage of the heat and humidity advantage...
I agree Corley. BYU wll most likely be playing in the insufferable heat of Oxford. People in about half of the country do not fully comprehend how big the heat and humidity factor is, and how it absolutely saps your strength and energy like a sponge, particularly when you're not acclimated to it.
SEC teams deal with big offense lines just about every week. That will be nothing new for Ole Miss. In fact virtually this same offensive line was overwhelmed by Florida State's front seven last season. The bigger mismatch in this game is Ole Miss' o-line against BYU's front seven.
BYU is one of my fav plays for the whole week. They finished strong towards the end of the year while Ole Miss floundered, plus working in a new QB. If Ole Miss didnt have the SEC label they would be huge underdogs in this game. BYU is great value here.
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BYU is one of my fav plays for the whole week. They finished strong towards the end of the year while Ole Miss floundered, plus working in a new QB. If Ole Miss didnt have the SEC label they would be huge underdogs in this game. BYU is great value here.
Offensive line averages 6'5' and 320 lbs. 4 starters back. Exp. qb.
Miss = new QB and new OC.
Game of the week!! Mark it.
Ole Miss' offensive coordinator last season was Dave Radar. That man knows less about offense than the local car salesman. If Dave Radar was still coordinating that offense (if that's what you want to call it), then I think BYU would be a lock. The fact that the Radar is now running the local PTA meetings gives Ole Miss a fighting chance in this game.
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Quote Originally Posted by tahoejoe2:
All BYU baby.
Offensive line averages 6'5' and 320 lbs. 4 starters back. Exp. qb.
Miss = new QB and new OC.
Game of the week!! Mark it.
Ole Miss' offensive coordinator last season was Dave Radar. That man knows less about offense than the local car salesman. If Dave Radar was still coordinating that offense (if that's what you want to call it), then I think BYU would be a lock. The fact that the Radar is now running the local PTA meetings gives Ole Miss a fighting chance in this game.
I don't think i'd put to much stock into the heat argument for Mississippi. The average temp in Provo is around 92 in July & August although the humidity isn't as high. Mississippi lost to Wyoming a few years ago at home in mid September & Mississippi St. lost a few years ago to Maine.
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I don't think i'd put to much stock into the heat argument for Mississippi. The average temp in Provo is around 92 in July & August although the humidity isn't as high. Mississippi lost to Wyoming a few years ago at home in mid September & Mississippi St. lost a few years ago to Maine.
Dude do you know who coached Ole Miss and Mississippi St when they lost those games???? Two morons who had no business being a HC... and the heat isn't the factor... the dry heat out West is nothing like the heat and humidity down here... and now we are comparing O-Lines??? Ole Miss line averages 6'5 331lbs... Don't worry about the QB... whether it's Brunetti or Mackey... Ole Miss will run it down BYU's throat... Both Mackey and Brunetti are mobile QB's that can complete a pass if necessary...Now let's look at the situations... Ole Miss has a nobody on deck... BYU goes to Texas... I give advantage to Ole Miss... I'm not denying that BYU finished strong last year and bring virtually everyone back and will score in this game... This game comes down to who can control the clock and protect the ball... Rebel run game will control the clock...
Bottom line is bringing in Masoli last year was a bigger mistake than Tennessee hiring Lane Kiffin... They ran off a QB who knew their current system and tried to tweak it to fit a QB who was only gonna be there 1 year... Although their QB's are inexperienced, they are good athletes that can and will make the plays...
I'm not an SEC homer or anything like that... I believe any SEC team can lose on any given day... In fact, I'll be cheering for the Cougars in this game... I hope I am wrong and if I am then I'll be the first to say it... I've been wrong before... The over will probably hit... But Ole Miss plus the points and the ML have a lot more value than BYU
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Dude do you know who coached Ole Miss and Mississippi St when they lost those games???? Two morons who had no business being a HC... and the heat isn't the factor... the dry heat out West is nothing like the heat and humidity down here... and now we are comparing O-Lines??? Ole Miss line averages 6'5 331lbs... Don't worry about the QB... whether it's Brunetti or Mackey... Ole Miss will run it down BYU's throat... Both Mackey and Brunetti are mobile QB's that can complete a pass if necessary...Now let's look at the situations... Ole Miss has a nobody on deck... BYU goes to Texas... I give advantage to Ole Miss... I'm not denying that BYU finished strong last year and bring virtually everyone back and will score in this game... This game comes down to who can control the clock and protect the ball... Rebel run game will control the clock...
Bottom line is bringing in Masoli last year was a bigger mistake than Tennessee hiring Lane Kiffin... They ran off a QB who knew their current system and tried to tweak it to fit a QB who was only gonna be there 1 year... Although their QB's are inexperienced, they are good athletes that can and will make the plays...
I'm not an SEC homer or anything like that... I believe any SEC team can lose on any given day... In fact, I'll be cheering for the Cougars in this game... I hope I am wrong and if I am then I'll be the first to say it... I've been wrong before... The over will probably hit... But Ole Miss plus the points and the ML have a lot more value than BYU
I don't think i'd put to much stock into the heat argument for Mississippi. The average temp in Provo is around 92 in July & August although the humidity isn't as high. Mississippi lost to Wyoming a few years ago at home in mid September & Mississippi St. lost a few years ago to Maine.
Nobody can really say how much the heat will effect BYU becasue nobody knows for what the weather will be. Hell, it could be raining all all for all we know. Nevertheless, if it is a typical day in Oxford, it'll be blistering with the humidity near 100%.
92 degree heat in Provo is a joke by comparison. I could stay outside all day in a 92 degree Provo heat and never break a bead of sweat. Coversely, down here you will start pour buckets of sweat within the minutes of walking outside, and that's not even being physically active. It is exactly like a sauna if you've ever experienced that. It will sap your strength very rapidly, especially if you're not accustomed to it. If it is a normal blistering hot day in Oxford, the weather absolutely will be a factor. You may even see guys being hooked up to IVs.
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Quote Originally Posted by dg84:
I don't think i'd put to much stock into the heat argument for Mississippi. The average temp in Provo is around 92 in July & August although the humidity isn't as high. Mississippi lost to Wyoming a few years ago at home in mid September & Mississippi St. lost a few years ago to Maine.
Nobody can really say how much the heat will effect BYU becasue nobody knows for what the weather will be. Hell, it could be raining all all for all we know. Nevertheless, if it is a typical day in Oxford, it'll be blistering with the humidity near 100%.
92 degree heat in Provo is a joke by comparison. I could stay outside all day in a 92 degree Provo heat and never break a bead of sweat. Coversely, down here you will start pour buckets of sweat within the minutes of walking outside, and that's not even being physically active. It is exactly like a sauna if you've ever experienced that. It will sap your strength very rapidly, especially if you're not accustomed to it. If it is a normal blistering hot day in Oxford, the weather absolutely will be a factor. You may even see guys being hooked up to IVs.
I don't quite understand why a lot of people are impressed with how BYU finished the season last year. They played four bad teams and won, then barely lost @ Utah. Here was their last five games:
Wyoming (2010 record: 3-9) BYU won 25-20
UNLV (2010 record: 2-11) BYU won 55-7
@ Colorado St (2010 record: 3-9) BYU won 49-10
New Mexico (2010 record: 1-11) BYU won 40-7
@ Utah (2010 record: 10-2) BYU lost 16-17
I would say that losing by one to Utah at their place is somewhat impressive, but I don't really think going 4-1 over those five games is impressive at all.
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I don't quite understand why a lot of people are impressed with how BYU finished the season last year. They played four bad teams and won, then barely lost @ Utah. Here was their last five games:
Wyoming (2010 record: 3-9) BYU won 25-20
UNLV (2010 record: 2-11) BYU won 55-7
@ Colorado St (2010 record: 3-9) BYU won 49-10
New Mexico (2010 record: 1-11) BYU won 40-7
@ Utah (2010 record: 10-2) BYU lost 16-17
I would say that losing by one to Utah at their place is somewhat impressive, but I don't really think going 4-1 over those five games is impressive at all.
look for the HEAT.....to play a larger role week 2.....@ Texas in Austin no picnic in Oxford sure....but bad for both teams....and BYU is able to work in the heat
*Oxford game time should be 90ish + 50% or so humidity (maybe worse) = 95 heat index......Austin should be 100 or so + 25% humidity or so = 100 HI.....BTW....it ain't cooling down much at all as game progresses...maybe 95ish in 4th quarter... * Provo same time 85ish.....20% humidity
remember surface also makes it hotter....temp at field level much greater on turf......so will add to it note BYU a grass team.....tough road games all turf..... Ole Miss > Texas > Frogs at Jerry's Hillbilly Palace > Hawaii
I think the heavy toll of a very physical game in the humidity....will show itself against Texas..especially late....enabling weak ass ground game to get going
Always a spot to look for in handicapping ? a home dog ...that can RUN.... but week 1 I usually don't like to deal with much UNCERTAINTY....and this one presents many... Ole Miss / Nutt on the way down/out.....or gonna bounce back? BYU indeed MUCH better?....or fraud ?...
to me this one has to be Ole Miss / Nutt as dog.....or nothing BYU 1H....with look at Ole Miss 2H..maybe not bad
It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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look for the HEAT.....to play a larger role week 2.....@ Texas in Austin no picnic in Oxford sure....but bad for both teams....and BYU is able to work in the heat
*Oxford game time should be 90ish + 50% or so humidity (maybe worse) = 95 heat index......Austin should be 100 or so + 25% humidity or so = 100 HI.....BTW....it ain't cooling down much at all as game progresses...maybe 95ish in 4th quarter... * Provo same time 85ish.....20% humidity
remember surface also makes it hotter....temp at field level much greater on turf......so will add to it note BYU a grass team.....tough road games all turf..... Ole Miss > Texas > Frogs at Jerry's Hillbilly Palace > Hawaii
I think the heavy toll of a very physical game in the humidity....will show itself against Texas..especially late....enabling weak ass ground game to get going
Always a spot to look for in handicapping ? a home dog ...that can RUN.... but week 1 I usually don't like to deal with much UNCERTAINTY....and this one presents many... Ole Miss / Nutt on the way down/out.....or gonna bounce back? BYU indeed MUCH better?....or fraud ?...
to me this one has to be Ole Miss / Nutt as dog.....or nothing BYU 1H....with look at Ole Miss 2H..maybe not bad
im right with you on this one elz24.. of course the heat will be a factor, but it wont be the determining factor.. the determining factor will be that jake heaps will throw the ball all over the place against ole miss, and that no one will get a pass rush on him... ole miss still hasnt decided on a QB..
also, Ole miss running the ball will play right into the heart of BYU's strength on defense... Ole miss may have a Big Oline, but BYU has an abnormally Huge Defensive line and big physical Line backers.. if ole miss is going to beat BYU they need to go after its weakness, which is in the secondary.. But im not so sure ole miss can complete a 7 yard hitch at this point...
BYU is the play.. they are a much better team and only a FG favorite..
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im right with you on this one elz24.. of course the heat will be a factor, but it wont be the determining factor.. the determining factor will be that jake heaps will throw the ball all over the place against ole miss, and that no one will get a pass rush on him... ole miss still hasnt decided on a QB..
also, Ole miss running the ball will play right into the heart of BYU's strength on defense... Ole miss may have a Big Oline, but BYU has an abnormally Huge Defensive line and big physical Line backers.. if ole miss is going to beat BYU they need to go after its weakness, which is in the secondary.. But im not so sure ole miss can complete a 7 yard hitch at this point...
BYU is the play.. they are a much better team and only a FG favorite..
the only way BYU wins this game is if they bring their refs with them. I'm not joking. You need to check and see where the refs are from before this game. If they are MWC then Ole Miss is in trouble.
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the only way BYU wins this game is if they bring their refs with them. I'm not joking. You need to check and see where the refs are from before this game. If they are MWC then Ole Miss is in trouble.
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