Need some help... What schools are changing "systems"?

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I was wondering if anybody has a complete list. Or if you know that a certain school is, go ahead and post it with any details that you are aware of. This can be on offense of defense. I think this is helpful b/c teams usually struggle in the first year or at least first few games of their new system.

For example,

Oregon will have a new coach in Chip Kelly, but they will have the same offense going.

Auburn is bringing in a new coach and are bringing in Gus Malzahn from Tulsa as the new OC

Last year Auburn was trying to bring the spread but this was with Tubberville still as the same coach at the time

Michigan was doing a complete overhaul of their pro-style offense last year when RichRod came in and brought... whatever it was he was trying to do, lol

Charlie Weis took back over the play-calling from his OC for the bowl last year.

Anything that you know of that is consistent with these types of changes.

lineguesser · Answer

I was wondering if anybody has a complete list. Or if you know that a certain school is, go ahead and post it with any details that you are aware of. This can be on offense of defense. I think this is helpful b/c teams usually struggle in the first year or at least first few games of their new system.

For example,

Oregon will have a new coach in Chip Kelly, but they will have the same offense going.

Auburn is bringing in a new coach and are bringing in Gus Malzahn from Tulsa as the new OC

Last year Auburn was trying to bring the spread but this was with Tubberville still as the same coach at the time

Michigan was doing a complete overhaul of their pro-style offense last year when RichRod came in and brought... whatever it was he was trying to do, lol

Charlie Weis took back over the play-calling from his OC for the bowl last year.

Anything that you know of that is consistent with these types of changes.

lineguesser · Answer

*offense or defense

thorpe · Answer

Let&#x27;s see...Cinci is switching to a 3-4 defense.  The coach said he thought the 3-4 was a better defense vs the spread option.UB is switching to a QB running offense.  SHould be interesting to see what Gill can do with his QB.  Willy was good but he is far from Gill&#x27;s prototypical QBMinnesota will be more of a traditional offense,  after firing their spread OC Dunbar.Army has a new coach but with the same philosophy as the previous coach (Option)

Rickey · Answer

Bowling Green - transitioning to more pro set than spread under new HC

Virginia - under new OC and former Bowling Green HC, is transitioning to the spread

USC - adapting to a dual threat QB in Aaron Corp will be adding a running element to their traditional pro set

more to come...

TripleOption · Answer

Lineguesser,I was fortunate enough to meet Chip Kelly some years back when he was at UNH and still e-mail him once or twice a year. I can tell you that Mike Belloti gave him complete control of that offense last year. It was Kelly&#x27;s show, so nothing will change for the Duck&#x27;s on that side of the ball. It will be the exact same one-back spread option, no-huddle attack we have seen the last two years at Oregon. Auburn, on the other hand, is going to be night and day. Reports from the spring game said people saw things from Auburn&#x27;s offense they had never seen before. Gus Malzahn is going to give old Pat Dye fans down on the Plains a heart attack this year. I don&#x27;t know if this was the kind of response you were looking for but I hoped it helped a little. Take care.

TripleOption · Answer

Thorpe,Army&#x27;s option will be much different under Rich Ellerson. He throws the ball a lot out of his option set. At Cal Poly, his team was actually second in Division 1-AA in pass efficiency last year. Ellerson believes that is the most important stat in the country in correlation with winning. So while Army will be running the Triple Option in theory, they will be doing a lot of short passing from the formation. It is a very unique offensive system. Just an FYI.

The Garfather · Answer

To the surprise of absolutely no one New Mexico St will pass less without Hal Mumme.

Mike Leach made some comment about running a little more, but I would take that with a grain of salt.

Jake Locker will still run, but he is going to be kept in the pocket a little more regularly, and its a good thing too otherwise he wouldn't survive September.

bookieassassin · Answer

Most significant.......NEW  F&#x27; IN  MEXICO !      why so excited you ask ?.......the way rocky long kept lobos in games.(11 years) ....vs more talented opponents.....was.unique 3-3-5 def scheme .....and ball control offense that sped up games....ran ball .&gt; kept D off field.......now switch to NO HUDDLE SPREAD.....(option type personnel).......SLOWING DOWN games now......D going to 4-3 (with personnel suited for old 3-3-5.....MISS ST     old school run stuff to wide open spread.....mullen has said he will put in little bit at a time ?.....as personnel adjusts....QB did run spread in HS and JC`  WYOMING     run /option based......to spread.....remember the longer the previous coach was in place......(6 yrs here)......tougher to put in something newholy crap last 20 games &#x27;boys were 1-18-1 ATS &lt; did not get enough of thisNEW MEXICO ST     wild ass air raid .....to west coast./ 3-3-5 to 4-3......under !.....(speeding up games .....walker great D coach)...Offense should be terribleU CONN   new OC &gt; hurry up / no huddle stuff .......slowing down games........VIRGINIA     new OC Brandon bringing spread......vic hall could make interesting in spots &gt; right hokies ?......slowing games ....depleted D on field more....SYRACUSE     more no huddle stuff......slowing games.....allowing for greater ass whippingsINDIANA       "experimenting" with pistol.....was gonna take a shot at you here capri......can&#x27;t do it...IOWA ST     open up O more....true spread/no huddle some.....OHIO      more spread stuff..... off 4-8 season....SAN DIEGO ST         experienced .coordinators will run own show.....Borges&#x27; spread stuff.....R Long&#x27;s 3-3-5......ARMY     most interesting changes.?......trip op explained offense.....(check out largest "WR" in football history ....Ali Villanueva ....6-10.....285 or so).....Ellerson also brings the greatness of the "double eagle flex 4-3"....or DESERT  SWARM.....( dick tomey arizona teams made popular)..a variation of buddy ryan "46"......significance ?  ....damn hard to run against (hello navy !.....air force....).....not worth a crap vs spread (in theory).....N Texas you gotta shot maybe....** if you&#x27;re up TRIP OP ......here&#x27;s something to keep you busy for awhile.......draw up option stuff .... vs army&#x27;s new  D......apologies if already know....to simplify ....assume TE ....2 WR.....FB......TB STRONG side &gt;   Tackle  at 3 technique.....End at 7......MLB usually heads up with  OT.....(depending on backfield align)......(3-4 yds deep)....SLB outside shoulder of TE.....3-4 deep.....WEAK side..........Nose &#x27;slanted" at outside shoulder (neck)  of center....Tackle in "B" gap and flexed (2 yards deep)......End.... in space forcing hard......WLB outside shoulder of OT....5 yds deep3 DB&#x27;s....* obviously point is to stop navy......adjustments can be made vs spread......if not can  get killed......quickly.....(several positions hybrid.....flex tackle /  LB.....WLB / SS.....)

no8 · Answer

Midd tenn st is going to the spread.  Tony Franklin is the new OC

lineguesser · Answer

this is exactly the type of post I was looking for let&#x27;s keep it going guys...

no8 · Answer

SMU - 3-4 defense

capri5421 · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by bookieassassin] Most significant.......NEW  F&#x27; IN  MEXICO !      why so excited you ask ?.......the way rocky long kept lobos in games.(11 years) ....vs more talented opponents.....was.unique 3-3-5 def scheme .....and ball control offense that sped up games....ran ball .&gt; kept D off field.......now switch to NO HUDDLE SPREAD.....(option type personnel).......SLOWING DOWN games now......D going to 4-3 (with personnel suited for old 3-3-5.....MISS ST     old school run stuff to wide open spread.....mullen has said he will put in little bit at a time ?.....as personnel adjusts....QB did run spread in HS and JC`  WYOMING     run /option based......to spread.....remember the longer the previous coach was in place......(6 yrs here)......tougher to put in something newholy crap last 20 games &#x27;boys were 1-18-1 ATS &lt; did not get enough of thisNEW MEXICO ST     wild ass air raid .....to west coast./ 3-3-5 to 4-3......under !.....(speeding up games .....walker great D coach)...Offense should be terribleU CONN   new OC &gt; hurry up / no huddle stuff .......slowing down games........VIRGINIA     new OC Brandon bringing spread......vic hall could make interesting in spots &gt; right hokies ?......slowing games ....depleted D on field more....SYRACUSE     more no huddle stuff......slowing games.....allowing for greater ass whippingsINDIANA       "experimenting" with pistol.....was gonna take a shot at you here capri......can&#x27;t do it...IOWA ST     open up O more....true spread/no huddle some.....OHIO      more spread stuff..... off 4-8 season....SAN DIEGO ST         experienced .coordinators will run own show.....Borges&#x27; spread stuff.....R Long&#x27;s 3-3-5......ARMY     most interesting changes.?......trip op explained offense.....(check out largest "WR" in football history ....Ali Villanueva ....6-10.....285 or so).....Ellerson also brings the greatness of the "double eagle flex 4-3"....or DESERT  SWARM.....( dick tomey arizona teams made popular)..a variation of buddy ryan "46"......significance ?  ....damn hard to run against (hello navy !.....air force....).....not worth a crap vs spread (in theory).....N Texas you gotta shot maybe....** if you&#x27;re up TRIP OP ......here&#x27;s something to keep you busy for awhile.......draw up option stuff .... vs army&#x27;s new  D......apologies if already know....to simplify ....assume TE ....2 WR.....FB......TB STRONG side &gt;   Tackle  at 3 technique.....End at 7......MLB usually heads up with  OT.....(depending on backfield align)......(3-4 yds deep)....SLB outside shoulder of TE.....3-4 deep.....WEAK side..........Nose &#x27;slanted" at outside shoulder (neck)  of center....Tackle in "B" gap and flexed (2 yards deep)......End.... in space forcing hard......WLB outside shoulder of OT....5 yds deep3 DB&#x27;s....* obviously point is to stop navy......adjustments can be made vs spread......if not can  get killed......quickly.....(several positions hybrid.....flex tackle /  LB.....WLB / SS.....)&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]

capri5421 · Answer

its been a while.......ok..ok,i fucked up with pistol(indiana)......anyway thanx for not killing me.........GO GATORS

WendysRox · Answer

This may not be breaking news to some of you, but on the radio this morning, they were talking about TN Vols going to the Tampa 2. Didn't Monte Kiffin come from TB, where the Tampa 2 was invented? If I'm not mistaken, this D depends heavily on a strong front 4, which TN should have with 3 returning starters and a damn good backup. And, it also depends on a great middle linebacker, who I think is meant to cover the middle deep in a Tampa 2.

PRWeaver · Answer

The Tampa 2 revolves around a very fast pash rush and a fast mobile middle linebacker that in my opinion will have to be very intelligent.

If the pash rush isnt getting there, they have no hope. However, I am expecting well prepared players on the defensive side, I've always looked at UT as a school with great athletes that are under prepared or out coached (Think Phatimus Fulmer grinding his teeth like he just got punched in the ear)... Unfortunately they have garbage and more garbage under center.

PRWeaver · Answer

UT Vols unders might be hitting good this year if the Defense is much improved... saw somewhere they are 27 point dogs in the swamp.&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;Then again I thought the 7 pt spread looked great against UCLA last year... ooops.

chef702 · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by PRWeaver] &#xD;&#xA;UT Vols unders might be hitting good this year if the Defense is much improved... saw somewhere they are 27 point dogs in the swamp.&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;Then again I thought the 7 pt spread looked great against UCLA last year... ooops.&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Yeah I lost $ on that UCLA game too. &#xD;&#xA;Not much room for the D to improve as they finished #3 overall 4th best pass defense 12th best run defense.  The problem lies on offense.  Didn&#x27;t they fumble several times vs the gators at the goal line?  You got that right about the QB position

WendysRox · Answer

Vols = no QB.... and howThis could be a brutal season for the Vol faithful.  Hopefully, the coach will keep us entertained, at least.

bookieassassin · Answer

doubt that vols will run the (traditional) "tampa 2" very often....just simple adjustment from standard 4-3........
* tampa 2 was designed to stop west coast offenses.....and is most effective stopping WC teams that pass a ton......vulnerable vs strong running teams
* what tampa 2 does is to give safeties deep middle help (MLB drops to deep middle...instead of middle curl area as in typical cover 2)....vols have top cover safety in the nation.....(other guys can run too ) so won't need much help anyway.....
* M Kiffin i'm sure can coach any D......and will design D to fit personnel..... and strength(s) of opposing teams.....tampa 2 doesn't make much sense in SEC....

thorpe · Answer

Tampa 2 actually works very well in college.  College players tend to be fast and undersized which is what the Tampa 2 is all about.

bookieassassin · Answer

speaking in terms of actual (pass coverage)A team can say "we run the tampa 2".....and NEVER drop MLB deep entire game.....all  they are doing is going  with smaller /faster LB&#x27;s  and  DE&#x27;s.....teaching disciplined gap responsibility......less blitzing.....playing an aggressive 4-3.......talented safeties keeping the action in front of them....BUT......giving it catchy name ....many high schools / junior highs do same thing.BUT.....if MLB can run ...and Alabama has 3rd and 15 or so (big if)....you will prob see MLB dropping to deep middle.....and at that point they will indeed be in the "Tampa 2".......* until they play a team that can seriously threaten the "soft spots" in standard cover 2..... .(don&#x27;t see one).....deep post......middle seams....(consistently).......to drop MLB..... DEEP......would be stupid.......and vols will get their ass killed (worse) if they do....

CoachMike007 · Answer

Grain of salt? Mike Leach running the ball more...

Potts will probably have the most passing yards from any no-name QB in the nation

The Cincy 3-4 change is huge, I think losing a DE playmaker like Barwin forces you to play more LB's because you have more good players at this position, and teams who run pro style offenses and have power backs are very short on their schedule. Brian Kelly strikes again!

This is probably the most informative preseason thread with the most useful info! Thanks all!!!

Need some help... What schools are changing "systems"?

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