I am debating that fight a lot too. I think it is very possible Johnson can KO Roller. Roller SHOULD win though. His strengths, wrestling and subs, are Johnson's weaknesses. I will likely steer clear. But I like this fight ending early
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I am debating that fight a lot too. I think it is very possible Johnson can KO Roller. Roller SHOULD win though. His strengths, wrestling and subs, are Johnson's weaknesses. I will likely steer clear. But I like this fight ending early
Realistically, I do believe Shane Roller should beat Johnson, but taking this fight on 10 days notice has me thinking a little bit about it. I definitely agree this fight should be a finish either way.
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Realistically, I do believe Shane Roller should beat Johnson, but taking this fight on 10 days notice has me thinking a little bit about it. I definitely agree this fight should be a finish either way.
IMO this is the line with the most value, I have just rewatched the Roller-Tavares fight where Roller KTFO of Tavares. Roller is a Div.1 wrestler and he has 1 TD easily defended by Tavares. If it stays on the feet like Roller did vs. Tavares, Johnson has a better chance of winning... I think theres a lot of value on Johnson and i have a unit on him!
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IMO this is the line with the most value, I have just rewatched the Roller-Tavares fight where Roller KTFO of Tavares. Roller is a Div.1 wrestler and he has 1 TD easily defended by Tavares. If it stays on the feet like Roller did vs. Tavares, Johnson has a better chance of winning... I think theres a lot of value on Johnson and i have a unit on him!
Guys, please be weary of this pick. Roller has great submission skills, and will also be a lot bigger than Johnson tmw. Anybody who has seen the behind the scenes of rashad cutting weight yesterday would have seen Johnson not cutting. He was on weight since monday of last week. He is fighting at his natural weight, while Roller is cutting. Some say it takes something out of you, but wrestlers have done it all of our lives.
Roller will outweigh him by 15 pounds tmw, and will win by submission. GL
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Guys, please be weary of this pick. Roller has great submission skills, and will also be a lot bigger than Johnson tmw. Anybody who has seen the behind the scenes of rashad cutting weight yesterday would have seen Johnson not cutting. He was on weight since monday of last week. He is fighting at his natural weight, while Roller is cutting. Some say it takes something out of you, but wrestlers have done it all of our lives.
Roller will outweigh him by 15 pounds tmw, and will win by submission. GL
Don't waste your money on Johnson. He is not a UFC calibre fighter. He is mediocre at every facet of the MMA game. Roller by what ever method he choses.
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Don't waste your money on Johnson. He is not a UFC calibre fighter. He is mediocre at every facet of the MMA game. Roller by what ever method he choses.
if fucking herb moron wouldnt have stopped the fight the way he did, which is the standard way when someone WINS A FIGHT to get them off the opponent.....he should have been screaming stop hitting the back of the head or im going to take a point or warn you blah blah blah
not just break him off basically to warn him are u fucking serious?!?!?!!
and honestly i REALLY REALLY believe 9 out of 10 refs would have stopped the fight, roller was dropping elbows and raining punches to that pathetic excuse of a fighters face
g0d dam im furious
cant wait to bet the world against johnson next match against whoever he faces
fml
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this was total bullshit imo
if fucking herb moron wouldnt have stopped the fight the way he did, which is the standard way when someone WINS A FIGHT to get them off the opponent.....he should have been screaming stop hitting the back of the head or im going to take a point or warn you blah blah blah
not just break him off basically to warn him are u fucking serious?!?!?!!
and honestly i REALLY REALLY believe 9 out of 10 refs would have stopped the fight, roller was dropping elbows and raining punches to that pathetic excuse of a fighters face
g0d dam im furious
cant wait to bet the world against johnson next match against whoever he faces
if fucking herb moron wouldnt have stopped the fight the way he did, which is the standard way when someone WINS A FIGHT to get them off the opponent.....he should have been screaming stop hitting the back of the head or im going to take a point or warn you blah blah blah
not just break him off basically to warn him are u fucking serious?!?!?!!
and honestly i REALLY REALLY believe 9 out of 10 refs would have stopped the fight, roller was dropping elbows and raining punches to that pathetic excuse of a fighters face
g0d dam im furious
cant wait to bet the world against johnson next match against whoever he faces
fml
I don't know how you can be so upset. Johnson was lighting him up for 2 full rounds, then gave up an advantageous position in the 3rd, Roller bombed on the back of his head for 10 seconds and I thought what Herb did was right.
Didn't have any money on this fight, but Roller did not deserve to win.
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Quote Originally Posted by Howdoiplayxx:
this was total bullshit imo
if fucking herb moron wouldnt have stopped the fight the way he did, which is the standard way when someone WINS A FIGHT to get them off the opponent.....he should have been screaming stop hitting the back of the head or im going to take a point or warn you blah blah blah
not just break him off basically to warn him are u fucking serious?!?!?!!
and honestly i REALLY REALLY believe 9 out of 10 refs would have stopped the fight, roller was dropping elbows and raining punches to that pathetic excuse of a fighters face
g0d dam im furious
cant wait to bet the world against johnson next match against whoever he faces
fml
I don't know how you can be so upset. Johnson was lighting him up for 2 full rounds, then gave up an advantageous position in the 3rd, Roller bombed on the back of his head for 10 seconds and I thought what Herb did was right.
Didn't have any money on this fight, but Roller did not deserve to win.
I don't know how you can be so upset. Johnson was lighting him up for 2 full rounds, then gave up an advantageous position in the 3rd, Roller bombed on the back of his head for 10 seconds and I thought what Herb did was right.
Didn't have any money on this fight, but Roller did not deserve to win.
im not upset that roller didnt win, i agree johnson was winning first 2 rounds and looked good
the WAY herb dean did it was totally wrong imo, im not saying roller wasnt hitting his back of the head, but you yell and give the fighter the verbal warnings, and most of the punches and elbows roller was throwing down was not on the back of his head, but side/face....YES i do agree though he was hitting the back of the head but johnson was turning his head side to side to avoid the huge punches he was absorbing and NOT defending btw (should have been stopped)
every time a fighter is pounding the shit out of someone on the ground the ref will step in with his arm and push away the fighter....99.99% of the time the fighter he pushes away is the winner because the ref is stopping any further damage....right? so why the fuck would herb make that SAME motion that is used across the entire world of mma basically, to let roller know if he does it again he will get points deducted/lose the fight....then lets him continue in the same position....LOL come the fuck on.
im not mad johnson won, he was the better fighter for most of the fight clearly but 9/10 times that fight is stopped because roller needs to be pulled off because he is pounding the shit out of johnsons face/side/back of head however you want to see it, herb completely fucked roller backers, he killed the momentum and made it seem like roller won 100% by putting his arm across and stopping the fight basically while roller was raining down mayhem
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Quote Originally Posted by ctm1985:
I don't know how you can be so upset. Johnson was lighting him up for 2 full rounds, then gave up an advantageous position in the 3rd, Roller bombed on the back of his head for 10 seconds and I thought what Herb did was right.
Didn't have any money on this fight, but Roller did not deserve to win.
im not upset that roller didnt win, i agree johnson was winning first 2 rounds and looked good
the WAY herb dean did it was totally wrong imo, im not saying roller wasnt hitting his back of the head, but you yell and give the fighter the verbal warnings, and most of the punches and elbows roller was throwing down was not on the back of his head, but side/face....YES i do agree though he was hitting the back of the head but johnson was turning his head side to side to avoid the huge punches he was absorbing and NOT defending btw (should have been stopped)
every time a fighter is pounding the shit out of someone on the ground the ref will step in with his arm and push away the fighter....99.99% of the time the fighter he pushes away is the winner because the ref is stopping any further damage....right? so why the fuck would herb make that SAME motion that is used across the entire world of mma basically, to let roller know if he does it again he will get points deducted/lose the fight....then lets him continue in the same position....LOL come the fuck on.
im not mad johnson won, he was the better fighter for most of the fight clearly but 9/10 times that fight is stopped because roller needs to be pulled off because he is pounding the shit out of johnsons face/side/back of head however you want to see it, herb completely fucked roller backers, he killed the momentum and made it seem like roller won 100% by putting his arm across and stopping the fight basically while roller was raining down mayhem
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