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I&#x27;m not sure who the undercard fighters will be because the TUF show hasn&#x27;t ended. I don&#x27;t really watch it but I do watch the fights. Anyways I don&#x27;t have great insight on the undercard fighters. I am however very confident in:Mayhem &#x2B;170To put it succintly, Miller&#x27;s gonna grapple-fuck Bisping. The Brit&#x27;s standup is over-rated anyway, all he does is pump a weak jab and occasionally throw some lame kicks. Miller is right when he says Hendo took Mike&#x27;s soul because the Englishman no longer stays in the pocket or takes any chances. I actually think Miller&#x27;s underrated muay thai game could trump Bisping on the feet -- but on the ground it&#x27;s no contest whatsoever. Miller is a very intelligent fighter, and in his first fight for the UFC since back in the day he&#x27;s going to beat Bisping one way or another, via grappling being the easiest route.In other words, the disparity between the two&#x27;s striking (which debatably and "popularly" favors Bisping) is far less than the grappling disparity between the two. Furthermore the Count hasn&#x27;t faced anybody in literally several years who had a good offensive takedown game. Miller&#x27;s forte isn&#x27;t his takedowns but I think he&#x27;ll get it there eventually.Cashed on Freire last week, and Hendo/Kampmann the week before, though I didn&#x27;t post those. Take care!

paul_scholes · Answer

I&#x27;m not sure who the undercard fighters will be because the TUF show hasn&#x27;t ended. I don&#x27;t really watch it but I do watch the fights. Anyways I don&#x27;t have great insight on the undercard fighters. I am however very confident in:Mayhem &#x2B;170To put it succintly, Miller&#x27;s gonna grapple-fuck Bisping. The Brit&#x27;s standup is over-rated anyway, all he does is pump a weak jab and occasionally throw some lame kicks. Miller is right when he says Hendo took Mike&#x27;s soul because the Englishman no longer stays in the pocket or takes any chances. I actually think Miller&#x27;s underrated muay thai game could trump Bisping on the feet -- but on the ground it&#x27;s no contest whatsoever. Miller is a very intelligent fighter, and in his first fight for the UFC since back in the day he&#x27;s going to beat Bisping one way or another, via grappling being the easiest route.In other words, the disparity between the two&#x27;s striking (which debatably and "popularly" favors Bisping) is far less than the grappling disparity between the two. Furthermore the Count hasn&#x27;t faced anybody in literally several years who had a good offensive takedown game. Miller&#x27;s forte isn&#x27;t his takedowns but I think he&#x27;ll get it there eventually.Cashed on Freire last week, and Hendo/Kampmann the week before, though I didn&#x27;t post those. Take care!

jonnyg4508 · Answer

Who has ever grapple fucked Bisping?And who good has Mayham ever grapple fucked in his career?  He subs old crusty men or cans...and his wrestling is really mediocre.  Bisping proved at a young age that he could hold his own vs. better wrestlers than Mayham has ever been.  His ground game has only improved since then.You really think Mayham has that good of wrestling?  I have never seen any proof.  I have seen proof that Bisping has really solid take down defense.

Bighurt · Answer

i hate bisping more than any other fighter ive seen...... hes arrogant....hes overrated....and he gets most of his matches hand-picked for him imo so dana white can keep advertising him as englands great hope.......that being said he has good tdd and even if or when he is taken down he usually gets up fairly quickly......i really hope ur right and mayhem takes it to him and kicks the shit out of him.....but i dont see it...i probably wont bet this due to the fact i really would like to see miller win.....but if i did i would have to lean bisping

whipton · Answer

this fight has me torn. i do think bisping is overrated, and miller has too many unknowns. ring rust will not play a factor in this match as many have said. millers striking is the unknown variable. i might just skip this fight.

paul_scholes · Answer

Bisping solid takedown defense. Lol :-) Miller was outgrappling Jake Shields for stretches. He's probably twice the grappler Bisping is and I mean that literally. I don't hate Bisping, but I like making money.

jonnyg4508 · Answer

He did OK vs. a pure wrestling Rashad Evans....who is 5x the wrestler Mayham is. And he has focused on wrestling and BJJ his whole UFC career.

So in 1 fight you are going to sum Mayham's whole career? He almost had SHields...so that defines him? Bisping ALMOST beat Rashad. He ALMOST beat Tito. At 205 lbs. So what.

Mayham has never sub'd a fighter the quality of Bisping in his life. That is a simple fact. He sub's a crusty rusty Sakuraba and the crowd goes wild. Bisping has great scrambling, and great cardio. That alone will keep him from being on his back at any length of time. He has also competed a lot at 205, so isn't a small or weak 185.

Bisping would beat SHields in my opinion. And I hate Bisping. But Shields is overrated. He should be 0-3 in the UFC.

jonnyg4508 · Answer

Also, I just watched the Shields fight again for the 1st time since it happened.

Where did he out-grapple Shields for stretches? Maybe if these stretches are like 20 seconds long. He had a couple of nice reversals. He did do that. But 95% of the fight was on the ground and Mayham had the better position for maybe 3 minutes total of a 25 minutes fight.

Shields did what he wanted to do with Mayham on the ground. He basically Fitch'd him for 25 minutes. He took Mayham down many times, got his back 3 or 4 times. Got mount 2 or 3 times.

Mayham ALMOST sub'd him. He reversed a TD at the very end of the round got his back and almost had a choke. Not sure why everyone goes crazy about that 30 second part of the fight. As if no superior BJJ fighter has never been almost or sub'd by a lesser BJJ fighter.

Bottom line is Mayham lost 49-46 to a welterweight. Martin Kampmann put up a better fight vs. Shields.

Mayham hasn't had a decent win since 2007. And he has NEVER sub'd anyone decent. Robbie Lawler might be his best sub...and he has zero ground game.

sawman · Answer

I would love Mayhem to beat the crap out of Bisping, but I don&#x27;t see it. My line on the British retard has gone from -200 to -170 this week, which is making it a lot more desirable.

paul_scholes · Answer

Shields is fully overrated which is why I've bet against him in his last three fights, all three that he lost (though he got the win against Kampmann). Rashad is not a great wrestler and was more of a boxer in that fight. Five-round fight favors the person who can finish which is Mayhem. Bisping has pillow hands and will try to stick and move, which he does with relatively poor footwork and a disinclination to stand in the pocket. Watching Miller's interview with Helwani made me put more money on him, when you see how focused he is and how great his camp was, things he reveals with an openness and honesty that other fighters claiming the same thing (for promotion of the fight) simply don't transmit.

Furthermore I think Bisping's camp is shit, his trainers are yobs, while Mayhem is training with world-class guys everyday at Munoz' and King's.

paul_scholes · Answer

I&#x27;m also thoroughly onboard Bermudez at &#x2B;240 or whatever against Brandao who has no cardio and was gassing at the end of the first round in his latest televised fight.

jonnyg4508 · Answer

I agree his camp isn&#x27;t the best in the world by far.  But there is no doubting the fact he is always in superb shape.  And for a UK guy he looks to have really worked on his wrestling over the years.  He always seems ready and with a game plan.  The guys he has trouble with are the guys who take the fight to him and impose their great/powerful striking or with great wrestling.  I see no strong suit in Mayham, he is a solid all round fighter.  But he hasn&#x27;t been that impressive on the feet or with his wrestling vs. mostly below average talent he has faced.

paul_scholes · Answer

And Gaudinot &#x2B;195

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