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Posted: 2/6/2013 12:01:41 AM
Which one do you think feel worse as a looser right now?  Who has more hope and excitement for next year?  
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:03:08 AM
Kapernick will never be in a Super Bowl again. Never. He is now exposed. That's what they call "scouting". A pocket passer will always win the longevity battle. Cap. Wilson. Are high risk for serious injuries (see rg3) 
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Posted: 2/6/2013 8:34:22 AM
Have you been actually watching football? Have you been hearing the announcers gloat about kaps arm strength and accurate passing? You must be blind or just ignorant. He will be a star in the nfl.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 10:22:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Narco:

Kapernick will never be in a Super Bowl again. Never. He is now exposed. That's what they call "scouting". A pocket passer will always win the longevity battle. Cap. Wilson. Are high risk for serious injuries (see rg3) 


U must be a rams fan. U fukn loser all of sudden ur on every thread talking bout how Sf sucks, losers like u don't last long in betting or life .I would love wilson or kaep can't go wrong with either one they both have bright futures 
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Posted: 2/6/2013 11:06:01 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

Have you been actually watching football? Have you been hearing the announcers gloat about kaps arm strength and accurate passing? You must be blind or just ignorant. He will be a star in the nfl.
  Like Michael Vick kind of star? If so , it's nothing to rave about as far as quarterbacking a team to superbowl... Here is what M Vick did when he joined NFL.  from wiki.

At his Pro Day workout, Vick ran the 40-yard dash in 4.33 seconds; his time has been clocked as low as 4.25, the fastest-ever for an NFL quarterback.[19] Vick was selected first in the 2001 NFL Draft by the Atlanta Falcons, becoming the first African-American quarterback to be taken with the top pick. The San Diego Chargers had the number-one selection but traded it to Atlanta Falcons the day before the draft for the Falcons' first- and third-round picks in 2001.[20] Vick was taken in the 30th round of the 2000 Major League Baseball Draft by the Colorado Rockies, despite not playing baseball since the 8th grade.[21]

Vick made his NFL debut against the San Francisco 49ers on September 9, 2001 and saw limited action. He completed his first NFL pass to wide receiver Tony Martin in the second quarter against the Carolina Panthers on September 23 and scored his first NFL touchdown on a two-yard rush in the fourth quarter to help the Falcons to a 24–16 victory.[22] Vick made his first start against the Dallas Cowboys on November 11 and threw his first touchdown pass to tight end Alge Crumpler in a 20–13 victory. He accounted for 234 of Atlanta's 255 yards in the season finale against the St. Louis Rams on January 6, 2002. In two starts and eight total games played that season, Vick completed 50 of 113 passes for 785 yards with two touchdowns and three interceptions. He rushed 29 times for 289 yards (9.9 avg.) and one touchdown.

Vick made 15 starts in 2002, missing one game against the New York Giants on October 13 with a sprained shoulder.[23] He completed 231 of 421 passes for 2,936 yards and 16 touchdowns. He had 113 carries for 777 yards and eight rushing touchdowns. Vick set numerous single-game career highs during the season, including in passes completed, pass attempts and passing yards. Vick also set a then-NFL record for most rushing yards by a quarterback in a single a game with 173 against the Minnesota Vikings on December 1, broken by Colin Kaepernick (181) in 2013.[24] He tied for third in team history for the lowest interception-to-interception ratio in a season. He had a streak of 177 passes without an interception as the Falcons finished with a 9–6–1 win-loss-tie record and reached the playoffs. On January 1, 2003, Vick led the Falcons to an upset victory over the heavily favored Green Bay Packers 27–7 in the first playoff round. The Falcons lost 20–6 to the Donovan McNabb-led Philadelphia Eagles in the National Football Conference divisional playoff game the following week. Vick was named to his first Pro Bowl after the season.

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Vick suffered a fractured right fibula during a preseason game before the 2003 season against the Baltimore Ravens. He missed the first 11 games of the regular season, making his debut in week 13. Vick substituted for quarterback Doug Johnson in the third quarter of a game against the Houston Texans on November 30, completing 8 of 11 passes for 60 yards and rushing for 16 yards on three carries. He started his first game of the season against the Carolina Panthers on December 7 and amassed the third-highest rushing total by a quarterback in NFL history with 141 yards on 14 carries and one touchdown. The Falcons won the game 21–14. Vick ended the season with a 21–14 victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars on December 28 in which he completed 12 of 22 passes for 180 yards with two touchdowns and an interception.

Vick returned to form in 2004, passing for 2,313 yards with 14 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. He added 902 yards of rushing and three touchdowns as the Falcons finished with a 11–5 record. On October 31, 2004 in a game against the Denver Broncos, he became the first quarterback to throw for more than 250 yards and rush for over 100 yards in the same game. Vick set an NFL postseason record for a quarterback with 119 rushing yards in the first round of the 2004 NFL playoffs; Atlanta beat the St. Louis Rams in that game, but lost the following week to the Philadelphia Eagles in the conference championship game. Vick, whose single-season rushing total was the third-highest for a quarterback in NFL history, was named to his second Pro Bowl after the season after leading Atlanta to their third division title.

Vick made his third Pro Bowl after the 2005 season, during which he passed for 2,412 yards and 16 touchdowns while rushing for 597 rushing yards and six more touchdowns.[25] The Falcons, however, finished with an 8–8 record and missed the playoffs.[26]

In 2006, Vick became the first quarterback to ever rush for over 1,000 yards in a single season.[27] He also set a record by rushing for 8.4 yards per carry.[28] Vick and teammate running back Warrick Dunn became the first quarterback-running back duo to each surpass 1,000 rushing yards in a single season.[29] Despite Vick's record-setting season, the Falcons finished with a 7–9 record and again missed the playoffs.[30]

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Posted: 2/6/2013 11:16:47 AM
I wouldn't say "never" like Narco said but agree with him about scouting.  Next year all the D Coordinator will have ton of tapes and times to find out about weak spots and it usually means bad news for those quarterbacks.  We will see.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 11:54:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

Have you been actually watching football? Have you been hearing the announcers gloat about kaps arm strength and accurate passing? You must be blind or just ignorant. He will be a star in the nfl.



lolllllllll pocket passers win superbowls the option qb just get your hope up just too watch the fail year in and out san fran will never win a SB with that moron behind center thats a guarantee
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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:25:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

Have you been actually watching football? Have you been hearing the announcers gloat about kaps arm strength and accurate passing? You must be blind or just ignorant. He will be a star in the nfl.

This is how people lose money.  By listening and watching too much ESPN.  This is how I make money.  By watching and knowing that I got 4.5 precious points against an inexperienced, non pocket passer, nervous, timid, and young quarter back on his 10th start....This is how I made my thousands, not by listening to ESPN. 

Kapernick will be injured, exposed, or limited and will struggle to win 8 games next year. 

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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:09:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Narco:

This is how people lose money.  By listening and watching too much ESPN.  This is how I make money.  By watching and knowing that I got 4.5 precious points against an inexperienced, non pocket passer, nervous, timid, and young quarter back on his 10th start....This is how I made my thousands, not by listening to ESPN. 

Kapernick will be injured, exposed, or limited and will struggle to win 8 games next year. 



Wow, I don't agree with that at all.  8 games?  Come on.  QB isn't all they have.  Gore & James are gearing up to become a lethal combo.  Strong receiving core will only look better after training with Kap in the offseason and developing more chemistry.  If the DBs get their act together, 9ers will be tough to stop.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:45:40 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Narco:

This is how people lose money.  By listening and watching too much ESPN.  This is how I make money.  By watching and knowing that I got 4.5 precious points against an inexperienced, non pocket passer, nervous, timid, and young quarter back on his 10th start....This is how I made my thousands, not by listening to ESPN. 

Kapernick will be injured, exposed, or limited and will struggle to win 8 games next year. 


 This was a great situation

 I made some good coin off SF during the season too though.........not sure I'd bet on them losing 8 games next year.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:44:27 PM
1 - Russell Wilson

1A - Kapernick.


Both should be first round picks in fantasy football next year.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 11:57:01 PM
Wilson! 
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Posted: 2/7/2013 2:29:12 AM

Will not pick either in the first round. I will go with Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Rogers, or AP.

 

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Posted: 2/7/2013 2:31:12 AM
Scoring 30 points against a good defense is being exposed??  Kap was not the reason 49ers lost game.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 3:49:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by EastOakland:

Will not pick either in the first round. I will go with Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Rogers, or AP.

 


Good plan....for 2007.

Kidding, can't go wrong with those 4 or the 2 i listed.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:23:14 PM
I wouldn't bet on either of those negros.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 4:18:11 AM
I would rather kap. I think he has a higher ceiling than wilson. Bigger faster stronger with better arm. I will take my chances
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Posted: 2/8/2013 10:27:01 AM
Kap is done ask VickVick
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Posted: 2/8/2013 3:05:14 PM
Both have a promising future. Their only gonna get better with experience.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 6:38:00 PM
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Scoring 30 points against a good defense is being exposed??  Kap was not the reason 49ers lost game.

Kaepernick's play directly resulted in the Niners scoring 26 points off of drives (including a failed 2 pt conversion). They also recieved a "gift turnover" and only got a FG from it. They also got a "gift safety" resulting in 2 pts.

Flacco's play directly resulted in the Ravens scoring 27 pts. The opening kickoff in the 2nd half that was returned for a TD by Jacoby Jones of the Ravens turned out to be the deciding score even though the Ravens added two FG's in the 4th quarter. That TD forced the Niners to become more desperate on offense. The Ravens would not have been in a situation to have given SF a safety had Jones not scored this TD.. in fact... The Niners would have drained the clock and kicked a FG in thier last possession which would have put them up by 5 points and forced the Ravens to drive for a winning TD at the end of the game - That is if all else had remained the same... and that's a BIG... IF.

Only one other championship game in the NFL's 80-year title game history, Pittsburgh's 35-31 win over Dallas in 1979, featured both teams scoring at least 30 points.

The Niners got 3 pts with a short field off of the Ravens only turnover... a fumble by Ray Rice. I do not count these pts towards Kaepernick's total since he did not help to move them into this scoring position.

The Ravens got 7 points off of the two turnovers by the Niners... a James fumble (resulting in Ravens TD) and an INT off of Kaepernick that resulted in a failed fake FG try.

I credit Flacco with 7 points off the fumble since he had to drive the Ravens 75 yards for a TD as the ball was recovered on the Ravens 25 yd line after the James(SF) fumble.. It was a normal scoring drive and NOT a short field as was the Niners 3 yrd drive off the Rice fumble which gave the Niners a short field form the Ravens 24 yard line (resulting in a Niners 34 yrd FG by Akers).

As you can clearly see... Flacco and Kaepernick had similar success as far as directly resulting in similar pts for thier teams.

Again... in my opinion, the death blow for the Niners was that Jacoby Jones KO return on the 2nd half opening kickoff.

I also feel that the Niners failure to get a TD instead of a FG off of the Ray Rice fumble hurt them dearly... as did the obvious failure to score with a 1st and goal at the end of the game.

As much as I respect what was accomplished by Russell Wilson and the Seahawks during thier season (and playoffs)... in my opinion I'd have to side with Kaepernick at this point. I don't think that Wilson adds as much to the Seahawks as Kaepernick adds to the Niners. BOTH are the best options for thier teams... but Kaepernicks adds a big play ability to the Niners which they have lacked from a starting QB ever since Steve Young retired.. and the Seattle backup, Matt Flynn, could very well likely had a terrific season also if he had been given the support that Wislon had been given all season from the Seahawks coaching staff. You have to remember... Wilson did not look so great coming out of the gate and many of thier wins can be attributed to the Seahawks defense rather than to Wilson alone... and let's not get started on that "Fail Mary" pass that the replacement refs "Gifted" to Seattle at the end of thier home game vs the Packers (which should have been a loss by Seattle).

What makes the choice interesting is that the Seahawks as a team have an edge when facing the Niners despite my choice of Kaepernick over Wilson. The Seahawks secondary is better than the Niners... But the Niners run defense is better than the Seahawks. However the Seahawks run defense is stronger than the Niners secondary... hence I give the edge to the Seahawks when they go H2H... but home field also plays a huge part when they meet. Over the last two season... The games in SF have been much closer than the games in Seattle with the team having home field winning each time.

No matter who you like... this matchup should provide some exciting action for years to come... as long as the person in Washington D.C. can keep this country from falling completely apart to the point that sports are forever meaningless in the struggle to just survive for the average Joe and family.

Congrats to the Ravens backers also... That was the correct bet going into the game. Despite my rooting for the Niners... my gut said 100% that the Ravens should win... and they did... so Congrats to them.

IF... I say again... IF... If the Niners can shore up that weak secondary... they will be the team to beat in SB XLVIII in 2014.

It will be interesting to see what the Niners do in FA and the draft in order to correct thier secondary problems.

Maybe the Niners can sign Leon Sandcastle

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Posted: 2/8/2013 10:24:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by speak2truth:

I wouldn't bet on either of those negros.

Not cool man..

Not sure where you're going with this but hopefully you are not referencing another word but got filtered??

Keep these kind of references off the forums 
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:40:12 AM
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Kapernick will never be in a Super Bowl again. Never. He is now exposed. That's what they call "scouting". A pocket passer will always win the longevity battle. Cap. Wilson. Are high risk for serious injuries (see rg3) 

Ur in idiot .... it was a one td game 49ers had a chance to win the SB in the final seconds ...Kap did a hell of a job In that game ur just an idiot ... Every game in the playoffs everybody says he can't win cuzz he to young but yet this kids took his team to the SB and one play away from a TD championship ring .... give he darn kid some credif
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:41:44 AM
Idiots like you don't deserve to watch sports .... Got no common sense just say shizzz out of ur azzzz
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:09:56 PM
i think SF coach smart he knows the other teams will be watching for his offence he will come up with a new system and the Ds will be confused again. should be another good year next year GL all
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