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Author: [NFL Betting] Topic: Attention Covers Users - Important Notice Re Avatars
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Posted: 11/2/2012 3:58:45 PM

To all Covers users,

As we mentioned in the past, a big part of our ability to operate, update and moderate this forum at Covers.com comes from the relationship with our advertisers. To continue to provide you with the best forum experience through support from our advertisers, we are going to be enforcing our community guidelines in all areas of content and images. 

With many users still not adhering to the guidelines surrounding nude and inappropriate images in customized user avatars, we are forced to enact a stricter policy and temporarily disable all custom avatars. We say temporary as many of you who were following the guidelines will be able to gain your avatar back through our Avatar Approval Process which we will be enabling in the “edit profile” section of your spaces page as soon as possible. Until we have that approval process complete or if you don’t feel like going through the process, we will continue to offer the option of choosing from our existing avatar gallery which we will be updating frequently moving forward.  Changes to custom avatars will take place Monday, November 5th.

Covers would simply not exist without our advertisers so we will adhere to the standards they put in place. We do apologize for the inconvenience but want to ensure you that your experience on our site is our top priority.

Don’t hesitate to contact us with any questions or concerns.

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Posted: 11/2/2012 4:58:57 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Covers-Team:

Covers would simply not exist without our advertisers so we will adhere to the standards they put in place. We do apologize for the inconvenience but want to ensure you that your experience on our site is our top priority.

The worst thing a company can do is let advertisers dictate the way they run their business\website. They have you completely by the balls. Next they will be renegotiating terms regarding payment and why wouldn't they? They can pretty much do whatever they want. 

Quite franks, Covers can't exist without their [B]users[/B]. Advertisers come and go but once you lose your user-base, it's game over. 

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Posted: 11/2/2012 5:29:57 PM
Why am I not surprised.  What will they think of next?   Dial up connection to log on to the forums?  Planning on publishing the home page articles on news print?

C'mon Covers Media Group, we're in a technological revolution and you're moving towards the dark ages.
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Posted: 11/3/2012 1:08:44 PM
Guys not too sure what the big deal is here, avatars are still allowed but will only have to be approved to prevent over the top offensive images displaying beside an advertisers banner. How is that moving backwards or hard to understand.

If you dont have an offensive avatar then what is the big issue?
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Posted: 11/3/2012 1:21:18 PM
Rizz, its not just this.  First it was full screen pop up ads.. then it's the newly embedded ads inside threads in the mains.  Now we can't even hyperlink.  This is part of a bigger issue - which is covers media groups increasing willingness to sacrifice the user experience for the sake of their advertisers.  Its very very disappointing.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:39:41 AM

@Si1ly, that's silly to misconstrue Rizzo 
herein, since the issues needn't be lumped all together
to nag more.  It's give and take at Covers.com as it is at
the vast majority of sites out there; just abide by minimal
avatar rules for everyones' sake and there's no problem.
There is no thread monitoring to speak of which already
is great, and the website layout, navigation, and databases
are second to none, so let's all be a bit more appreciative
of the plusses which far outweigh any minor negative.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 6:30:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by si1ly:

Rizz, its not just this.  First it was full screen pop up ads.. then it's the newly embedded ads inside threads in the mains.  Now we can't even hyperlink.  This is part of a bigger issue - which is covers media groups increasing willingness to sacrifice the user experience for the sake of their advertisers.  Its very very disappointing.

couldnt agree more.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 6:39:26 PM
its getting so bad that some of your threads I get kicked out of because my antivirus software says they are dangerous to my computer.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 4:24:16 PM
This forum is a mess now. You cant really tell people apart at a glance. I know you said that a new system will be installed, but Instead of deleted of boxing users with "inappropriate" display pics, you've decided to completely overhaul the entire process. Its like you decided the most complex and unnecessary method would be the most efficient.

The forum continues to be plagued with spammers unlike any of Cover's competitors because, unlike them, covers refuses to implement email verification for new users. I know im not the first person to gripe about this issue/solution. Clearly, CT has no qualms implementing new policies and tools for advertiser's sake; what has always baffled me is Covers unwillingness to prevent pick-sellers, when covers itself sells picks. They are directly profiting off of your software and customer pool..... and you sit by idle. An email verification system would improve both your sales, AND the user experience.

Nothing has been improved that i can specifically recall in ages to improve user interactions with the forums, so i pose this question to CT in general; 

why should i continue to use Covers.com when your competitors are making leaps and bounds in improving the user experience? What indication have you given me, your customer, that your product will be of interest to me in the future?

I really do love this site. Like many of your current members, was a frequent visitor since well before i became a member, but it seems like every month its something new that, like si1ly said, takes something away from the user experience. Some of the changes i completely understand, you need to satisfy adverser's concerns, but where does covers draw the line between customer satisfaction and advertiser demands? How far will covers go to appease its advertisers at the costs of its users? I think you have really begun to cross that line, and i dont want to leave, but what choice are you giving people who have been generating clicks and revenue for you for years?

Without your current crop of advertisers, you might see a dip in profitability, but by alienating your customer base, you risk devolving whats left of the members who weren't part of the mass exodus during the whole Sarah Phillips- saga. Whether you want to admit it or not, the QUALITY of the forums on Covers.com took a SIGNIFICANT hit from that exodus, and I dont think the integrity of covers could survive another exodus. 

This is entirely my opinion, and Im just one user CT, but i simply CANNOT be the only one who's become tremendously frustrated with the way things have changed around here. 

CT, please dont force us away, we really do like it here. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 4:55:02 PM
I have to be honest, if were forced to take a quiz and was asked to name 3 companies that advertised on this site, I would fail it.

Can I have my Mr Gueermo avatar back? He wasn't hurting anyone.


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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:08:38 PM
Man oh man...


When will they be "approved"?

It's really hard to tell anyone apart now. This is ridiculous.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:22:12 PM
Hey Now! 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:34:50 PM

i guess it's not really that big a deal that I don't have my classic Little Joe Washington pic levitating 6 feet in mid air in his silver shoes with the ball as he escapes in a classic fashion to score yet again in the clutch that would put Reggie Bush to shame.

I'm just confused as to why so many others still have their avatar pics in place as before since this action was taken.

I always wondered how a girly-girl female avatar with her genetalia hanging down to her knees would be chosen by a supposed manly-man as his representation??? Never got that.

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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:48:26 PM
how can i get my pic back up now?
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:15:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNBFkrUUeGc
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Posted: 11/5/2012 7:38:18 PM

Sad thing is it is not working. A bit ago my avatar returned. Then gone again, and if you ask CT about it, they treat you like dirt.

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Posted: 11/5/2012 8:10:50 PM
why my custom avatar that I made that has my own screen name on there is not approve? 

Now I can't even see a tab to upload that same avatar...

Now I wear a cap that looks like another bozo... 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 8:12:50 PM

With all due respect, I think almost 80% of the avatars are females in some type of reveling clothing, but not completely naked! This forum probably consists of 99% male users. What would be offending?? If its porn, I can completely understand but a girl in some lingere? We gotta do better then that!!! And if your complaining, your probably on the wrong forum!!! 


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Posted: 11/5/2012 8:28:24 PM
Can we get some new emoticons? 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 8:29:11 PM
Maybe some new fonts or something too?  just to change it up?
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Posted: 11/5/2012 8:32:18 PM
The epidemic corporatization of mainstream media by giant chains like Gannett, GE, and Westinghouse has homogenized journalism, reduced outspoken opinion, and leeched "offensive" and "antisocial" material from many publications and shows.  In both the literal and metaphorical sense, this easily constitutes censorship - moral guardians expurgating material they deem inappropriate or immoral.  Companies like Disney, which owns ABC are fanatic about presenting a "wholesome image." (Anyone who has spent anytime on the boards on ESPNs "Streak For The Cash" can speak to their level of censorship).  Corporations like Chrysler demand to be notified in advance of magazines' editorial content "that encompasses sexual, political, social issues or any editorial that might be construed as provocative or offensive" if the car manufacturer had ads scheduled to appear. According to the WSJ, concern over a four-page Chrysler advertising insert in Esquire led the magazine's editor to abruptly cancel publication of a short story by the highly acclaimed novelist David Leavitt about a happy man who writes college term papers in exchange for sex. Were the federal government to impose control of that kind, there would be a meltdown on both the left and the right. But the Journal said the auto maker is just one of a "host of major advertisers that are wielding their economic clout to change the rules of magazine publishing. While it isn't unusual for companies to avoid advertising in publications they deem offensive, or to pull ads after a magazine runs something objectionable, Chrysler and many others are going much further: demanding advance warnings about stories." So in modern American society, discount retailers are changing the rules of music, video providers the nature of films, and auto manufacturers determining the content of magazines. The Journal reported that the Colgate-Palmolive Co. sends its ad agencies guidelines forbidding them from running ads in magazines with "offensive" sexual content or material the company considers "antisocial or in bad taste." Ford yanked ads from The New Yorker when the magazine failed to alert the car company about an article containing a four-letter word. In response, The New Yorker set up a formal system to warn about 50 companies on a "sensitive advertiser list" about articles that might offend. If media conglomerates like Hearst, which owns Esquire, and Advance Publications, which publishes Conde Nast magazines and The New Yorker, are so vulnerable to advertiser pressure, imagine the impact on smaller magazines and newspapers, for whom giant advertisers bring in life-and-death revenue. The fact is, large corporations are notoriously vulnerable to pressure from special interest groups and others with particular agendas. Until recent times, media companies were run by powerful individual entrepreneurs like Bill Paley, the founder of CBS. They had the power to stand up to advertisers. But modern media conglomerates are highly vulnerable to Wall Street analysts, consumer boycotts, federal regulation, lawsuits, and lawyers. They have strong financial incentives to take few risks and avoid controversy. In a world in which Wal-Mart shapes music and Ford influences language, it still seems unclear to many people on and off the Web where the most menacing kind of censorship is coming from. It is simply not true that only governments can censor, certainly not in the USA. In fact, in contemporary American media, government barely needs to bother.  (Excerpts from Wired) So to the leaders of Covers I say, beware what your acquiescing to here, for censorship is part of a very slippery slope that leads to things like fasicism.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 9:07:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Orangemen44:

Can we get some new emoticons? 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 9:19:07 PM
im gonna put up a picture of my person and see if they approve it
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Posted: 11/5/2012 9:21:37 PM
what the hell is ushpa talking about
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Posted: 11/5/2012 9:37:44 PM
I couldn't agree more with Orangemen, GQ, Manassa,Sloak, Switch and si1ly....it isn't like I come here for the advertising...in fact until you started putting the banners right IN the threads I didn't even know you did advertise. Even now...I couldn't tell you one company that chooses to advertise here.
I remember people by their pic and then their name. It's not like I'm tied to mine or anything...just making it less anonymous may help.
 Why would you punish everyone instead of just simply trawling the forums and boxing the people who were not complying?
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