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#1 Posted: 6/16/2012 10:50:58 PM
but this time the Jets get one.
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#2 Posted: 6/16/2012 10:52:11 PM
Rex Ryan---needed an emotional infield player--doesn't matter if Tebow stars or not, his presence will be the missing factor to the superbowl champion equation boiled up by the mad genius Rex Ryan himself.
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#4 Posted: 6/17/2012 1:12:52 AM 
Everyone knows Pats return for the AFC and claim the Vince Lombardi trophy.  |
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#5 Posted: 6/17/2012 11:18:36 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by mischkin04:
Everyone knows Pats return for the AFC and claim the Vince Lombardi trophy.
Could not have possibly said it better myself!
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#6 Posted: 6/17/2012 1:16:41 PM
pats arent hungry anymore--wildcard losers
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#7 Posted: 6/17/2012 1:42:53 PM
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#8 Posted: 6/17/2012 2:36:54 PM
You're justification is opinion based, I get that. But for people to take it, and you seriously, one may want to give a more legitimate reason then " pats arent hungry anymore--wildcard losers". Especially when your backing the jets.
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#9 Posted: 6/17/2012 4:19:58 PM  - they will win this year 
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#10 Posted: 6/17/2012 6:53:50 PM
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#11 Posted: 6/17/2012 7:39:02 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by SlumdogPicks:
Pat's aren't hungry anymore? I wasn't aware you interviewed every person associated with all of the NFL teams(Players, coaches, owners...etc.) compared all the answer's, and then concluded the pats aren't hungry in comparison to previous years and other teams.
You're justification is opinion based, I get that. But for people to take it, and you seriously, one may want to give a more legitimate reason then " pats arent hungry anymore--wildcard losers". Especially when your backing the jets.
Blue-- i havent personally interviewed any of them--ever--however, to what extent do you conclude my opinion is based off watching video footage of other people personally interviewing them?
Red--anything about what will happen in future match ups is opinion based--it has to be--just because I gave you a simple premise and conclusion to my feelings, doesn't mean there was not pages full of calculations that sculpted my final feelings into a few statements.
The Pats are not hungry anymore. period. to explain this is difficult--to ensemble all the facts about football that I have embedded in my conscious over the course of the years would be beyond my ability to communicate at this time... but to try, the pats are kinda like Phil Jackson---they are stuffed to the core, getting old, and getting a bit bored.
Tom Brady wants to move on to something else....
do you think regular season games hype up pats players like they do bengals players? NO WAY--- this current roster of pats teams only get juiced up significant regular season games and playoffs---thats a long season of preseason if you're the pats.
but you will see--they are going to come out sluggish..plagued with injuries probably because they got lazy in the offseason dreaming about losing to the giants AGAIN! will they ever get to redeem against the giants again? nope..
morale is low--the ability is there---but the motivation won't be---and that is typically when players start to get hurt---lack of motivation causes lack of pregame warmups and stretches--leading to injuries commonly hamstring, quads, and groin.
Pats are STILL GREAT---they just don't want to win.. how can you convince me that they are excited about this season after losing the last 2 superbowls to the giants? please---id love to know
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#12 Posted: 6/17/2012 7:50:40 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Bigblue1088:
What have the Jets done to warrant you saying that? Teams closer to the number 1 pick then SB with the way things ended last year and now the Tebow circus.
why the jets-?
Because they believe they are the best more than any other team believes so--and after tasting championship games the past 2 seasons and left with not even a wildcard crum this year---they are friggin pissed..starving..they believe too much to be this hungry..even if they aren't the best talent, they mindblew themselves into thinking they are---and thats a result of the genius that is Rex Ryan's soul of coaching and strategy off the field to produce genius players on the field...he really is a legendary coach in the process.
their doubts lied within QB position, player leadership---this is no more---regardless of starting QB--Tebow creates an atmosphere that increase player morale, luck, and optimistic outcomes---THIS IS WHAT RYAN DOES OFF FIELD, now THAT A PLAYER REINFORCES IT---its over---mark sanchez might get caught in the wave and just hand the starting spot to tebow.
Jets have the best chance to win the title in my opinion
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#13 Posted: 6/17/2012 8:37:08 PM
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#14 Posted: 6/17/2012 10:01:15 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TheFootball77:
Blue-- i havent personally interviewed any of them--ever--however, to what extent do you conclude my opinion is based off watching video footage of other people personally interviewing them?
Red--anything about what will happen in future match ups is opinion based--it has to be--just because I gave you a simple premise and conclusion to my feelings, doesn't mean there was not pages full of calculations that sculpted my final feelings into a few statements.
The Pats are not hungry anymore. period. to explain this is difficult--to ensemble all the facts about football that I have embedded in my conscious over the course of the years would be beyond my ability to communicate at this time... but to try, the pats are kinda like Phil Jackson---they are stuffed to the core, getting old, and getting a bit bored.
Tom Brady wants to move on to something else....
do you think regular season games hype up pats players like they do bengals players? NO WAY--- this current roster of pats teams only get juiced up significant regular season games and playoffs---thats a long season of preseason if you're the pats.
but you will see--they are going to come out sluggish..plagued with injuries probably because they got lazy in the offseason dreaming about losing to the giants AGAIN! will they ever get to redeem against the giants again? nope..
morale is low--the ability is there---but the motivation won't be---and that is typically when players start to get hurt---lack of motivation causes lack of pregame warmups and stretches--leading to injuries commonly hamstring, quads, and groin.
Pats are STILL GREAT---they just don't want to win.. how can you convince me that they are excited about this season after losing the last 2 superbowls to the giants? please---id love to know
See that was great, you stated some valid opinions and it was an informative read in regards to understanding why you were claiming the pats aren't hungry any more (laughed at the Phil Jackson comparison). And I simply can't tell you nor convince you that they are excited about the season. Mainly because I am not a member of the organization. I have no idea what their motivation level is like, nor does anyone on this forum. One could however assume that the pats, as any other organization, show up to play football. That is their life, and winning is a huge part of that team as of late. I mean, one would could presume that after their 2nd consecutive loss to the giants in the super bowl, the league is starting to say things that they aren't as good as they used to be. Or even, for this threads sake, teams could be saying the pats aren't hungry anymore. This would fuel me if I were playing, to shut the haters up, and to prove to the league that my team is everything they are hyped to be. Only way to do that is win ball games and get to the super bowl, and win. That's it plain and simple.
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#15 Posted: 6/17/2012 10:12:05 PM
Let's recap.... Pats have lost two in a row to the Giants so they are defeated and are no longer hungry.... The Jets have lost two in a row so they are friggin pissed and will win the SB in your opinion.
I like the effort and the intelligent wording explaining yourself to slumdog picks, but your arguments are so weak and poorly thought out that reading this post was a waste of a good ten mins.
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#16 Posted: 6/17/2012 10:35:16 PM
Human Beings, nfl players or not, are emotional animals---most games--people judge based off robotic principals that is antagonistic to basic human nature---these people state, "Tom Brady will score at least 4 TD;s this game no questions"---yet, they are missing the majority of the equation---which is psychological/emotional factor that changes a players performance per given game most significantly outside of injuries.
We seem to lose sight in this, and begin to see NFL as monopoly money---not real people with real feelings---
Answer me this--honestly---if Patriots went undefeated and beat giants in 07--- does Brady go down the next season vs KC?
NO.
Do you know how emotionally DESTROYED the entire pats organization was after that loss? can you imagine the plane ride home? these guys standards are set so high, they can't enjoy a meal unless its sir loin steak from bobby filets minimum. They were climbing mountain cliffs no team in history every dreamed of reaching---and they were there just crusing--till they fell--and they are still falling..
OK--no we don't have interviews nor does anyone---but lets pretend its thanksgiving and count what we have--which are the similarities with NFL players---the basic human nature--with this we can calculate more accurately to how players are feeling and predict their future output.
Heres Tom Brady and Bill again---preseason games--regular season---what can they do to make it exciting? what can they do--to go that extra step? being in the pinnacle performance is fuc*ing hard--and maintaing that level takes mental power---that was sucked out of them by the Giants---that was the last kick the patriots had before their final lay----the patriots are going to crumble--rebuild---and talk about the glory days of the first decade of the new millenium for the rest of time to come---and we can tell our kids "oh yeah I remember better pats-17 in the superbowl)
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#17 Posted: 6/17/2012 10:43:00 PM
you spend years building a miniature replica of new york city---and someone comes along to tear it all down---you cry and act as in a state of denial of truth for a season (patriots missed playoffs, brady out for season), til you accept the facts and start climbing your journey to the top again--as you make the replica better then before---until the same person comes and knocks it all to pieces again---
now what---your time is running out----you're bored with the project--you don't really know why you do it anymore--its not fun--- brady already stated public ally "theres gotta be more to life than nfl" during the middle of the season.
Every team eventually crumbles---that based on the age---and psychological factors of the past---i'd say its bout that time..
BigBlue---"jets have no leadership"--- they don't even have a little leadership?
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#19 Posted: 6/17/2012 11:23:27 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by matty_t:
I just want to quickly point out the the majority of your argument for why the pats are not hungry enough was almost identical to your argument of why the jets will win it (im just going to leave out how you mentioned Tebow will carry the Jets to the SB and that Rex Ryan is a genious)....
Let's recap.... Pats have lost two in a row to the Giants so they are defeated and are no longer hungry.... The Jets have lost two in a row so they are friggin pissed and will win the SB in your opinion.
I like the effort and the intelligent wording explaining yourself to slumdog picks, but your arguments are so weak and poorly thought out that reading this post was a waste of a good ten mins.
Put your bankroll on the Jets, i'll be surprised if the Jets make the playoffs.
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#21 Posted: 6/18/2012 9:58:07 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by TheFootball77:
The Jets have made some major moves--they got rid of a false hope that was Tomlinson--and have tasted defeat in a losing season with Rex Ryan for the first time (not going to playoffs)---
Human Beings, nfl players or not, are emotional animals---most games--people judge based off robotic principals that is antagonistic to basic human nature---these people state, "Tom Brady will score at least 4 TD;s this game no questions"---yet, they are missing the majority of the equation---which is psychological/emotional factor that changes a players performance per given game most significantly outside of injuries.
We seem to lose sight in this, and begin to see NFL as monopoly money---not real people with real feelings---
Answer me this--honestly---if Patriots went undefeated and beat giants in 07--- does Brady go down the next season vs KC?
NO.
Do you know how emotionally DESTROYED the entire pats organization was after that loss? can you imagine the plane ride home? these guys standards are set so high, they can't enjoy a meal unless its sir loin steak from bobby filets minimum. They were climbing mountain cliffs no team in history every dreamed of reaching---and they were there just crusing--till they fell--and they are still falling..
OK--no we don't have interviews nor does anyone---but lets pretend its thanksgiving and count what we have--which are the similarities with NFL players---the basic human nature--with this we can calculate more accurately to how players are feeling and predict their future output.
Heres Tom Brady and Bill again---preseason games--regular season---what can they do to make it exciting? what can they do--to go that extra step? being in the pinnacle performance is fuc*ing hard--and maintaing that level takes mental power---that was sucked out of them by the Giants---that was the last kick the patriots had before their final lay----the patriots are going to crumble--rebuild---and talk about the glory days of the first decade of the new millenium for the rest of time to come---and we can tell our kids "oh yeah I remember better pats-17 in the superbowl)
Really?
So what affects NE can't possibly affect the Jets? They aren't emotionally down whatsoever? Brimming with confidence? |
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#22 Posted: 6/18/2012 12:40:46 PM
The Patriots are experiencing a fall from a mountain top that no team has ever climbed before---its amazing they were able to keep themselves together after the 07 season---but now---there's just nothing to hope for.
The jets--- they fell off a warehouse because they didnt tie their shoes and the world saw it---they havent got the superbowl yet---their expectations for good taste, is a bigmac meal from Mcdonalds with no onions...thats as easy as beating the bengals in the regular season.
What affects NE affects EVERY TEAM--- but what NE is going through, is unlike what the Jets are going through... based on your suggestion--I take it as---every team but the Giants are going through what NE is---and thats just not true...so i dont see why you are dubbing the psychological impact of the Patriots to be synonymous with the Jets--where did you get that from?
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#23 Posted: 6/18/2012 12:43:09 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mafioso:
Packers will learn from the mistakes they made and will absolutley win the superbowl.
Packers are scary---and my pick from the NFC to lose to the Jets in a SHOCK THE WORLD moment like always tends to happen in sporting events thanks to media mindfucking the public
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#24 Posted: 6/18/2012 2:03:37 PM 
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#25 Posted: 6/18/2012 5:27:02 PM QUOTE
Ok well I think it's clearly evident that TheFootball77 guy is on the
jet's side of things. It seems to appear that every other forum member
is against his decision, which I'm assuming people are on this decision
based on roster/management/statistics from previous seasons leading up
to this one, and not psychological issues that professional players
face.
Originally Posted by TheFootball77:
Packers are scary---and my pick from the NFC to lose to the Jets in a SHOCK THE WORLD moment like always tends to happen in sporting events thanks to media mindfucking the public
That is bold. I understand how any joe can say " I think the (Insert any NFL team here) will win the superbowl " but usually they are on some what reasonable grounds. The jet's have no qualities to be a super bowl contending team. None. Look at all of the points everyone has stated in regards to leadership, qb, and coaching. Not to mention the terrible media in NY.
After all is said I still disagree and think your decision making is off in terms of what qualifications to look for in a potential super bowl worthy team. Regardless, best of luck bro. I'll be backing my pat's and you can take the jets.
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