I cannot go with the Saints until they at least cover a spread. They are 1-3 ATS thus far and frankly look like shit. Their only win ATS was by a half of a point in week one so I'm not going to jump for joy with that performance. I know Arizona is going with the rookie QB in Max Hall but he looked pretty decent in the preseason. You can discount last weeks game because he wasn't expecting to play prior to the game and did not game plan as the starter. This week he has had the entire week to game plan and practice for the Saints as the starter. Also I like the fact they are at home.This is the week Beanie Wells and Timmy Hightower break out the Cardinals' running game. The Saints also don't have a running game this week as Pierre Thomas has been ruled out and Bush is still out. Arizona's defense is better than what they have shown thus far and I can't see Ladell Betts and Chris Ivory doing much of anything this week. The Saints passing offense has been good relative to the rest of the league but still things just don't seem right. Also I think this is the game Fitzgerald finally breaks out. Nobody expects Max Hall to do anything on Sunday and I think this is a mistake. Arizona surprised people this week and might win outright.
My pick: Arizona +7 and if i play this game will buy the hook to +7.5.
BOL
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I cannot go with the Saints until they at least cover a spread. They are 1-3 ATS thus far and frankly look like shit. Their only win ATS was by a half of a point in week one so I'm not going to jump for joy with that performance. I know Arizona is going with the rookie QB in Max Hall but he looked pretty decent in the preseason. You can discount last weeks game because he wasn't expecting to play prior to the game and did not game plan as the starter. This week he has had the entire week to game plan and practice for the Saints as the starter. Also I like the fact they are at home.This is the week Beanie Wells and Timmy Hightower break out the Cardinals' running game. The Saints also don't have a running game this week as Pierre Thomas has been ruled out and Bush is still out. Arizona's defense is better than what they have shown thus far and I can't see Ladell Betts and Chris Ivory doing much of anything this week. The Saints passing offense has been good relative to the rest of the league but still things just don't seem right. Also I think this is the game Fitzgerald finally breaks out. Nobody expects Max Hall to do anything on Sunday and I think this is a mistake. Arizona surprised people this week and might win outright.
My pick: Arizona +7 and if i play this game will buy the hook to +7.5.
I cannot go with the Saints until they at least cover a spread. They are 1-3 ATS thus far and frankly look like shit. Their only win ATS was by a half of a point in week one so I'm not going to jump for joy with that performance. I know Arizona is going with the rookie QB in Max Hall but he looked pretty decent in the preseason. You can discount last weeks game because he wasn't expecting to play prior to the game and did not game plan as the starter. This week he has had the entire week to game plan and practice for the Saints as the starter. Also I like the fact they are at home.This is the week Beanie Wells and Timmy Hightower break out the Cardinals' running game. The Saints also don't have a running game this week as Pierre Thomas has been ruled out and Bush is still out. Arizona's defense is better than what they have shown thus far and I can't see Ladell Betts and Chris Ivory doing much of anything this week. The Saints passing offense has been good relative to the rest of the league but still things just don't seem right. Also I think this is the game Fitzgerald finally breaks out. Nobody expects Max Hall to do anything on Sunday and I think this is a mistake. Arizona surprised people this week and might win outright.
My pick: Arizona +7 and if i play this game will buy the hook to +7.5.
BOL
You say the Saints have no running game without Bush and Thomas. Saints had their best rushing game of the season with 123 yards with Ivory and Betts. You should observe the Saints O-line.
Saints "look like shit"? They are a missed chip shot FG from being 4-0. You can say the Cardinals "look like shit", or the Bills "look like shit". But the Saints? They've left points on the board and had some stupid penalties, but really?
Saints -6.5
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Quote Originally Posted by mba3170:
I cannot go with the Saints until they at least cover a spread. They are 1-3 ATS thus far and frankly look like shit. Their only win ATS was by a half of a point in week one so I'm not going to jump for joy with that performance. I know Arizona is going with the rookie QB in Max Hall but he looked pretty decent in the preseason. You can discount last weeks game because he wasn't expecting to play prior to the game and did not game plan as the starter. This week he has had the entire week to game plan and practice for the Saints as the starter. Also I like the fact they are at home.This is the week Beanie Wells and Timmy Hightower break out the Cardinals' running game. The Saints also don't have a running game this week as Pierre Thomas has been ruled out and Bush is still out. Arizona's defense is better than what they have shown thus far and I can't see Ladell Betts and Chris Ivory doing much of anything this week. The Saints passing offense has been good relative to the rest of the league but still things just don't seem right. Also I think this is the game Fitzgerald finally breaks out. Nobody expects Max Hall to do anything on Sunday and I think this is a mistake. Arizona surprised people this week and might win outright.
My pick: Arizona +7 and if i play this game will buy the hook to +7.5.
BOL
You say the Saints have no running game without Bush and Thomas. Saints had their best rushing game of the season with 123 yards with Ivory and Betts. You should observe the Saints O-line.
Saints "look like shit"? They are a missed chip shot FG from being 4-0. You can say the Cardinals "look like shit", or the Bills "look like shit". But the Saints? They've left points on the board and had some stupid penalties, but really?
Saints are reverting to their usual form (before last year), playing down to their opponents level of competition. That being said, I believe they will show up better for this game than they have been playing. They will probably actually beat a line. I don't like the over 44 but good luck. I have been wrong many times before.
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Saints are reverting to their usual form (before last year), playing down to their opponents level of competition. That being said, I believe they will show up better for this game than they have been playing. They will probably actually beat a line. I don't like the over 44 but good luck. I have been wrong many times before.
Saints are reverting to their usual form (before last year), playing down to their opponents level of competition. That being said, I believe they will show up better for this game than they have been playing. They will probably actually beat a line. I don't like the over 44 but good luck. I have been wrong many times before.
We know, but GL buddy
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Quote Originally Posted by Ap1Bfreetorun:
Saints are reverting to their usual form (before last year), playing down to their opponents level of competition. That being said, I believe they will show up better for this game than they have been playing. They will probably actually beat a line. I don't like the over 44 but good luck. I have been wrong many times before.
AZ, like Philly, seems to lose games they should win and win games they should lose. IMO this is the latter.
Saints on grass are slower than on turf, teams rally around a new QB especially the first week, they looked terrible last week, the public and many on Covers giving them no chance.
Give me AZ plus the points here. Good spot for them I think
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AZ, like Philly, seems to lose games they should win and win games they should lose. IMO this is the latter.
Saints on grass are slower than on turf, teams rally around a new QB especially the first week, they looked terrible last week, the public and many on Covers giving them no chance.
Give me AZ plus the points here. Good spot for them I think
You say the Saints have no running game without Bush and Thomas. Saints had their best rushing game of the season with 123 yards with Ivory and Betts. You should observe the Saints O-line.
Saints "look like shit"? They are a missed chip shot FG from being 4-0. You can say the Cardinals "look like shit", or the Bills "look like shit". But the Saints? They've left points on the board and had some stupid penalties, but really?
Saints -6.5
Not looking to good right now for the Saints !
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Quote Originally Posted by Aalon:
You say the Saints have no running game without Bush and Thomas. Saints had their best rushing game of the season with 123 yards with Ivory and Betts. You should observe the Saints O-line.
Saints "look like shit"? They are a missed chip shot FG from being 4-0. You can say the Cardinals "look like shit", or the Bills "look like shit". But the Saints? They've left points on the board and had some stupid penalties, but really?
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