alright guys .. I woke up this afternoon to see the new lines for the MNF teams and was BLOWN away by the COLTS = VIKINGS line
COLTS -2???
ARE YOU KIDDING ME????
DID I MISS SOMETHING???
someone please give me a reason (or 2 or 3) to NOT bet my whole bank on this game....
ok.. SO im exaggerating.. i would never bet all my money on 1 game.. but common.. i watched both the colts and vikings and not only did the vikings not impress me at all.. but the colts played a GOOD game. most say manning was rusty .. but his stats were good.. and not to mention his recievers dropped about 3 or 4 passes that wouldve gave him another 100 yards and at least 1 more TD PASS.
WHAT AM I MISSING HERE??? THE COLTS ARE A LOTTT BETTER THEN THE VIKINGS....... THIS LINE IS A JOKE!!!!
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alright guys .. I woke up this afternoon to see the new lines for the MNF teams and was BLOWN away by the COLTS = VIKINGS line
COLTS -2???
ARE YOU KIDDING ME????
DID I MISS SOMETHING???
someone please give me a reason (or 2 or 3) to NOT bet my whole bank on this game....
ok.. SO im exaggerating.. i would never bet all my money on 1 game.. but common.. i watched both the colts and vikings and not only did the vikings not impress me at all.. but the colts played a GOOD game. most say manning was rusty .. but his stats were good.. and not to mention his recievers dropped about 3 or 4 passes that wouldve gave him another 100 yards and at least 1 more TD PASS.
WHAT AM I MISSING HERE??? THE COLTS ARE A LOTTT BETTER THEN THE VIKINGS....... THIS LINE IS A JOKE!!!!
I will tell you that the Vikes have a good defense but i dont like there QB and im as surprise than you,and if im wrong or not i will bet with closed eyes to the Colt,there not going to lose 2 games in september i dont think so
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I will tell you that the Vikes have a good defense but i dont like there QB and im as surprise than you,and if im wrong or not i will bet with closed eyes to the Colt,there not going to lose 2 games in september i dont think so
its kind of simple if you think about it, colts have a horrible rush defence and there is a player on the other team named Adrian Peterson....have you ever heard of him?
he's kind of good and might be able to rush for 1300 yards in one game lol
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its kind of simple if you think about it, colts have a horrible rush defence and there is a player on the other team named Adrian Peterson....have you ever heard of him?
he's kind of good and might be able to rush for 1300 yards in one game lol
its kind of simple if you think about it, colts have a horrible rush defence and there is a player on the other team named Adrian Peterson....have you ever heard of him?
he's kind of good and might be able to rush for 1300 yards in one game lol
Agreed. I am torn on this game (good line) because i cant for the life of me see the colts starting the year 0-2 but on the other hand the way both teams are playing and hopw they match up all signs point to minny. Indy looked lost last game. Screw stats. Manning finally was pressured all night and the bears ran the ball all over INDY's D. Now u tell me how playing another strong D, with an even better running attack..on the road will be any easier than last game for the colts.
Overall this may become a no play for me as i see both sides of the game, but for me this is a good line. If this line hits a magic number 3 or 3.5 then the bets will be lopsided. For me anywhere between PK and 2.5 is safe and a good line.
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Quote Originally Posted by GSP13:
its kind of simple if you think about it, colts have a horrible rush defence and there is a player on the other team named Adrian Peterson....have you ever heard of him?
he's kind of good and might be able to rush for 1300 yards in one game lol
Agreed. I am torn on this game (good line) because i cant for the life of me see the colts starting the year 0-2 but on the other hand the way both teams are playing and hopw they match up all signs point to minny. Indy looked lost last game. Screw stats. Manning finally was pressured all night and the bears ran the ball all over INDY's D. Now u tell me how playing another strong D, with an even better running attack..on the road will be any easier than last game for the colts.
Overall this may become a no play for me as i see both sides of the game, but for me this is a good line. If this line hits a magic number 3 or 3.5 then the bets will be lopsided. For me anywhere between PK and 2.5 is safe and a good line.
Sorry but if I lose money on the Colts -2, I ain't even mad. For real, When will you able to get the Colts -2 again, beside probably Colts at Chargers. Another week for Peyton to practice and prepare. Colts will win and it'll go over the Total. Peyton got something to prove this week.
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Sorry but if I lose money on the Colts -2, I ain't even mad. For real, When will you able to get the Colts -2 again, beside probably Colts at Chargers. Another week for Peyton to practice and prepare. Colts will win and it'll go over the Total. Peyton got something to prove this week.
Agreed. I am torn on this game (good line) because i cant for the life of me see the colts starting the year 0-2 but on the other hand the way both teams are playing and hopw they match up all signs point to minny. Indy looked lost last game. Screw stats. Manning finally was pressured all night and the bears ran the ball all over INDY's D. Now u tell me how playing another strong D, with an even better running attack..on the road will be any easier than last game for the colts.
Overall this may become a no play for me as i see both sides of the game, but for me this is a good line. If this line hits a magic number 3 or 3.5 then the bets will be lopsided. For me anywhere between PK and 2.5 is safe and a good line.
INDY looked lost?? did u watch the game??.. OFFENSE was good.. defense can be a lot better but you dont need a great D to stop vikings.. if they blitz enough to keep PETERSON under control.. they will WIN..
plus.. the COLTS didnt win EVERY game in september FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS because of D..
they won becuase THEY can outscore you ALL day ... EVERYDAY
NO WAY THEY START 0-2 not to the BEARS AND VIKINGS MAN. . and im A BEARS FAN.. LOL
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Quote Originally Posted by The_JB_Show:
Agreed. I am torn on this game (good line) because i cant for the life of me see the colts starting the year 0-2 but on the other hand the way both teams are playing and hopw they match up all signs point to minny. Indy looked lost last game. Screw stats. Manning finally was pressured all night and the bears ran the ball all over INDY's D. Now u tell me how playing another strong D, with an even better running attack..on the road will be any easier than last game for the colts.
Overall this may become a no play for me as i see both sides of the game, but for me this is a good line. If this line hits a magic number 3 or 3.5 then the bets will be lopsided. For me anywhere between PK and 2.5 is safe and a good line.
INDY looked lost?? did u watch the game??.. OFFENSE was good.. defense can be a lot better but you dont need a great D to stop vikings.. if they blitz enough to keep PETERSON under control.. they will WIN..
plus.. the COLTS didnt win EVERY game in september FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS because of D..
they won becuase THEY can outscore you ALL day ... EVERYDAY
NO WAY THEY START 0-2 not to the BEARS AND VIKINGS MAN. . and im A BEARS FAN.. LOL
Sorry but if I lose money on the Colts -2, I ain't even mad. For real, When will you able to get the Colts -2 again, beside probably Colts at Chargers. Another week for Peyton to practice and prepare. Colts will win and it'll go over the Total. Peyton got something to prove this week.
THATS WHAT I AM SAYIN..lol GOTTA TAKE A COLTS -2 everytime u can as long as no. 18 is taking the snaps and he harrison , wayne, and addai all HEALTHY
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Quote Originally Posted by RaianSan:
Sorry but if I lose money on the Colts -2, I ain't even mad. For real, When will you able to get the Colts -2 again, beside probably Colts at Chargers. Another week for Peyton to practice and prepare. Colts will win and it'll go over the Total. Peyton got something to prove this week.
THATS WHAT I AM SAYIN..lol GOTTA TAKE A COLTS -2 everytime u can as long as no. 18 is taking the snaps and he harrison , wayne, and addai all HEALTHY
INDY looked lost?? did u watch the game??.. OFFENSE was good.. defense can be a lot better but you dont need a great D to stop vikings.. if they blitz enough to keep PETERSON under control.. they will WIN..
plus.. the COLTS didnt win EVERY game in september FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS because of D..
they won becuase THEY can outscore you ALL day ... EVERYDAY
NO WAY THEY START 0-2 not to the BEARS AND VIKINGS MAN. . and im A BEARS FAN.. LOL
Man Indy had serious issues with the Bears D. Might be the resurgence of that D, but might also be cracks in the usually unstoppable colts offence. Will they play better against MIN? i think so, but i still see MIN running that ball more effectively than the bears last weekend and that means big problems for the colts as manning spends 2/3rds of the game on the bench watching.
I am not saying MIN wins this big. I agree that it's hard to even imagine the COLTS at 0-2, but i feel this situation is tough for them and for that at this moment it's a no play for me.
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Quote Originally Posted by chi23city:
INDY looked lost?? did u watch the game??.. OFFENSE was good.. defense can be a lot better but you dont need a great D to stop vikings.. if they blitz enough to keep PETERSON under control.. they will WIN..
plus.. the COLTS didnt win EVERY game in september FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS because of D..
they won becuase THEY can outscore you ALL day ... EVERYDAY
NO WAY THEY START 0-2 not to the BEARS AND VIKINGS MAN. . and im A BEARS FAN.. LOL
Man Indy had serious issues with the Bears D. Might be the resurgence of that D, but might also be cracks in the usually unstoppable colts offence. Will they play better against MIN? i think so, but i still see MIN running that ball more effectively than the bears last weekend and that means big problems for the colts as manning spends 2/3rds of the game on the bench watching.
I am not saying MIN wins this big. I agree that it's hard to even imagine the COLTS at 0-2, but i feel this situation is tough for them and for that at this moment it's a no play for me.
Man Indy had serious issues with the Bears D. Might be the resurgence of that D, but might also be cracks in the usually unstoppable colts offence. Will they play better against MIN? i think so, but i still see MIN running that ball more effectively than the bears last weekend and that means big problems for the colts as manning spends 2/3rds of the game on the bench watching.
I am not saying MIN wins this big. I agree that it's hard to even imagine the COLTS at 0-2, but i feel this situation is tough for them and for that at this moment it's a no play for me.
MY bears D wasnt good great JB.. the secondary can be VERY suspect. GONZALES DROPPED A TD WHERE HE HAD VASHER BEAT.. vasher missed too many tackles.. and if it wasnt 4 tillmans STRIP OF HARRISON FOR THAT BRIGGS TD.. WE WOULDVE PROBABLY LOST THAT GAME.. that fumble changed the ENTIRE GAME AROUND.. i wish you were right but I DONT SEE A RESURGENCE OF THE BEARS D AT ALL!! AND NO.. A FEW DROPPED PASSES DONT MEAN THERE IS CRACKS IN INDY OFF. just means its week one and practice will get those receivers and manning BACK ON TRACK
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Quote Originally Posted by The_JB_Show:
Man Indy had serious issues with the Bears D. Might be the resurgence of that D, but might also be cracks in the usually unstoppable colts offence. Will they play better against MIN? i think so, but i still see MIN running that ball more effectively than the bears last weekend and that means big problems for the colts as manning spends 2/3rds of the game on the bench watching.
I am not saying MIN wins this big. I agree that it's hard to even imagine the COLTS at 0-2, but i feel this situation is tough for them and for that at this moment it's a no play for me.
MY bears D wasnt good great JB.. the secondary can be VERY suspect. GONZALES DROPPED A TD WHERE HE HAD VASHER BEAT.. vasher missed too many tackles.. and if it wasnt 4 tillmans STRIP OF HARRISON FOR THAT BRIGGS TD.. WE WOULDVE PROBABLY LOST THAT GAME.. that fumble changed the ENTIRE GAME AROUND.. i wish you were right but I DONT SEE A RESURGENCE OF THE BEARS D AT ALL!! AND NO.. A FEW DROPPED PASSES DONT MEAN THERE IS CRACKS IN INDY OFF. just means its week one and practice will get those receivers and manning BACK ON TRACK
MY bears D wasnt good great JB.. the secondary can be VERY suspect. GONZALES DROPPED A TD WHERE HE HAD VASHER BEAT.. vasher missed too many tackles.. and if it wasnt 4 tillmans STRIP OF HARRISON FOR THAT BRIGGS TD.. WE WOULDVE PROBABLY LOST THAT GAME.. that fumble changed the ENTIRE GAME AROUND.. i wish you were right but I DONT SEE A RESURGENCE OF THE BEARS D AT ALL!! AND NO.. A FEW DROPPED PASSES DONT MEAN THERE IS CRACKS IN INDY OFF. just means its week one and practice will get those receivers and manning BACK ON TRACK
Damn...I got the Bears D in my fantasy pool. HAHAHA.
Well i guess we'l have to wait and see. I really do have this feeling though that Indy may be starting to look human. Like any good qb, the key to success is time in the pocket. Hell guys like Ryan leaf might have been able to succeed if they didnt get a pass rush....k that may be an extreme. Just saying for years Manning was untouchable, guarded by one of the best O-lines year in and year out. This year it looks different. Saturday is gone and i really think that if teams can get constant pressure on Manning it could be a more difficult year for Manning and the Colts. I guess only time will tell.
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Quote Originally Posted by chi23city:
MY bears D wasnt good great JB.. the secondary can be VERY suspect. GONZALES DROPPED A TD WHERE HE HAD VASHER BEAT.. vasher missed too many tackles.. and if it wasnt 4 tillmans STRIP OF HARRISON FOR THAT BRIGGS TD.. WE WOULDVE PROBABLY LOST THAT GAME.. that fumble changed the ENTIRE GAME AROUND.. i wish you were right but I DONT SEE A RESURGENCE OF THE BEARS D AT ALL!! AND NO.. A FEW DROPPED PASSES DONT MEAN THERE IS CRACKS IN INDY OFF. just means its week one and practice will get those receivers and manning BACK ON TRACK
Damn...I got the Bears D in my fantasy pool. HAHAHA.
Well i guess we'l have to wait and see. I really do have this feeling though that Indy may be starting to look human. Like any good qb, the key to success is time in the pocket. Hell guys like Ryan leaf might have been able to succeed if they didnt get a pass rush....k that may be an extreme. Just saying for years Manning was untouchable, guarded by one of the best O-lines year in and year out. This year it looks different. Saturday is gone and i really think that if teams can get constant pressure on Manning it could be a more difficult year for Manning and the Colts. I guess only time will tell.
LOVE MY BEARS but theyre D is nothin like what it was in our SUPERBOWL year a few years ago.. VASHER and TILLMAN can be ok but as much as i love mike BROWN.. he is BEAT. too many injuries.. adn as far as our other safety..WHO THE FK IS HE?? lol
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LOVE MY BEARS but theyre D is nothin like what it was in our SUPERBOWL year a few years ago.. VASHER and TILLMAN can be ok but as much as i love mike BROWN.. he is BEAT. too many injuries.. adn as far as our other safety..WHO THE FK IS HE?? lol
i thought tavaris played pretty well on the road in a tough place to play against a great defense on opening night. i definitely would not want to take a road favorite with a shaky defense that got torn up by matt forte against pederson and that defensive line. indy -2 looks like a sucker bet at first glance.
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i thought tavaris played pretty well on the road in a tough place to play against a great defense on opening night. i definitely would not want to take a road favorite with a shaky defense that got torn up by matt forte against pederson and that defensive line. indy -2 looks like a sucker bet at first glance.
I don't see this as a sucker bet at all......I agree with Chi23city......every football fan watched that game, and the public perception is this:
1. The Colts' are rusty, terrible, and not the same team. 2. AP will run all over them.
These two factors play hard in the line. However, these two facts should be considered:
1. The Colts' still have everyone from their extremely powerful offense. 2. They had the stingiest Defense last year, allowing the fewest points. 3. They were embarrassed by bad play on national TV in the dedication game of their new facility.
I personally think the Colts' got a HUGE slap in the face, and are motivated more than ever to get back on track. Besides, they are lucky as hell that Brady is out, the Chargers lost (didn't lose a game in Home field advantage race), and Jacksonville already has a divisional loss. THEY KNOW THAT WINNING THIS GAME WILL PUT THEM BACK AT THE TOP OF THE AFC AND THE SUPER BOWL HUNT. PUTTING MONEY ON TAVARIS JACKSON OVER PEYTON MANNING IS THE MOST RISKY THING A GAMBLER COULD DO.
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I don't see this as a sucker bet at all......I agree with Chi23city......every football fan watched that game, and the public perception is this:
1. The Colts' are rusty, terrible, and not the same team. 2. AP will run all over them.
These two factors play hard in the line. However, these two facts should be considered:
1. The Colts' still have everyone from their extremely powerful offense. 2. They had the stingiest Defense last year, allowing the fewest points. 3. They were embarrassed by bad play on national TV in the dedication game of their new facility.
I personally think the Colts' got a HUGE slap in the face, and are motivated more than ever to get back on track. Besides, they are lucky as hell that Brady is out, the Chargers lost (didn't lose a game in Home field advantage race), and Jacksonville already has a divisional loss. THEY KNOW THAT WINNING THIS GAME WILL PUT THEM BACK AT THE TOP OF THE AFC AND THE SUPER BOWL HUNT. PUTTING MONEY ON TAVARIS JACKSON OVER PEYTON MANNING IS THE MOST RISKY THING A GAMBLER COULD DO.
peyton has been munching on painkillers all summer. His weight, strength are down and he just feels shitty period. it will take him a while to get back to true form. he still throws the best timming routes in the NFL and should do well vs. the Vics dbacks, but the fact that they are on the road and played poorly probably generated this line. Watch out for the rookies on the Oline vs. the Williams' ....also check the Dallas Clark injury before playing this game. Marvin isnt what he was either.
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peyton has been munching on painkillers all summer. His weight, strength are down and he just feels shitty period. it will take him a while to get back to true form. he still throws the best timming routes in the NFL and should do well vs. the Vics dbacks, but the fact that they are on the road and played poorly probably generated this line. Watch out for the rookies on the Oline vs. the Williams' ....also check the Dallas Clark injury before playing this game. Marvin isnt what he was either.
I don't see this as a sucker bet at all......I agree with Chi23city......every football fan watched that game, and the public perception is this:
1. The Colts' are rusty, terrible, and not the same team. 2. AP will run all over them.
These two factors play hard in the line. However, these two facts should be considered:
1. The Colts' still have everyone from their extremely powerful offense. 2. They had the stingiest Defense last year, allowing the fewest points. 3. They were embarrassed by bad play on national TV in the dedication game of their new facility.
I personally think the Colts' got a HUGE slap in the face, and are motivated more than ever to get back on track. Besides, they are lucky as hell that Brady is out, the Chargers lost (didn't lose a game in Home field advantage race), and Jacksonville already has a divisional loss. THEY KNOW THAT WINNING THIS GAME WILL PUT THEM BACK AT THE TOP OF THE AFC AND THE SUPER BOWL HUNT. PUTTING MONEY ON TAVARIS JACKSON OVER PEYTON MANNING IS THE MOST RISKY THING A GAMBLER COULD DO.
THANK YOU jkochvar!!!!
youre the only one that gets it!!!
I COULD NOT HAVE WORDED IT BETTER
"PUBLIC PERCEPTION" IS WHAT MADE THIS LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT MEANS .. THE ESPN WATCHERS ARE THE ONES that THINK THAT COLTS ARE OLD AND RUSTY AND THAT PAYTON SUCKED
BUT THE REAL CAPPERS/FANS (who actually watched the WHOLE gM.) . KNOW.. THAT manning wasnt bad at all.. THAT HIS receivers dropped a few BIG passes. AND that if not 4 that briggs fumble rec 4 a td.. The colts would have probably WON.
this line should be at least COLTS -6 if not MORE
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Quote Originally Posted by jkochvar:
I don't see this as a sucker bet at all......I agree with Chi23city......every football fan watched that game, and the public perception is this:
1. The Colts' are rusty, terrible, and not the same team. 2. AP will run all over them.
These two factors play hard in the line. However, these two facts should be considered:
1. The Colts' still have everyone from their extremely powerful offense. 2. They had the stingiest Defense last year, allowing the fewest points. 3. They were embarrassed by bad play on national TV in the dedication game of their new facility.
I personally think the Colts' got a HUGE slap in the face, and are motivated more than ever to get back on track. Besides, they are lucky as hell that Brady is out, the Chargers lost (didn't lose a game in Home field advantage race), and Jacksonville already has a divisional loss. THEY KNOW THAT WINNING THIS GAME WILL PUT THEM BACK AT THE TOP OF THE AFC AND THE SUPER BOWL HUNT. PUTTING MONEY ON TAVARIS JACKSON OVER PEYTON MANNING IS THE MOST RISKY THING A GAMBLER COULD DO.
THANK YOU jkochvar!!!!
youre the only one that gets it!!!
I COULD NOT HAVE WORDED IT BETTER
"PUBLIC PERCEPTION" IS WHAT MADE THIS LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT MEANS .. THE ESPN WATCHERS ARE THE ONES that THINK THAT COLTS ARE OLD AND RUSTY AND THAT PAYTON SUCKED
BUT THE REAL CAPPERS/FANS (who actually watched the WHOLE gM.) . KNOW.. THAT manning wasnt bad at all.. THAT HIS receivers dropped a few BIG passes. AND that if not 4 that briggs fumble rec 4 a td.. The colts would have probably WON.
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