The Real Mitt Romney

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Posted: 10/5/2012 1:18:16 PM
I did not watch the debate because I've become disgusted with politics.  I did listen to a few people I respect very much (on the radio) talk about it.  The general consensus was that Romney did well and he seemed to be the Romney.....gov. of Mass. Moderate guy.  They were saying that it's possible that he moved right to win the nomination (since he had to defeat the likes of Newt, Bachmann, etc.).

1. Is this an accurate assessment of how it went?  2.  If so, is the "moderate" Romney the real Romney?
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Posted: 10/5/2012 2:42:12 PM
i didn't watch it either but i don't see how he could have done well by moving to the center.  if he's been saying one thing, or many things, to one group for months and then says different thing a few weeks before the election, how does that have any credibility and win votes?
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Posted: 10/5/2012 9:08:30 PM
as an independent it is not about what romney says anymore...  He can say all the right things, but I dont trust or believe him...

Doesnt mean I will automatically vote obama... I actually want to vote romney but he has this clear history in his campaign of appearing transparent and honest...

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Posted: 10/5/2012 9:12:52 PM
as an independent it is not about what romney says anymore...  He can say all the right things, but I dont trust or believe him...

Doesnt mean I will automatically vote obama... I actually want to vote romney but he has this clear history in his campaign of appearing transparent and honest...

romney has run this "Flip Flop", "Etch-a-Sketch", "Amoeba  campaign" strategy which make him look short sighted, no back bone, and unable to understand what he stands for other then taking shots at his opponent... 
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:13:23 AM
how can you believe what either of these talking heads say?

history shows us that you can not

it is funny to watch the idiots who voted for obama call romney dishonest, or accuse him of saying things and then changing his position

then they feign outrage at how anyone can believe romney

how can anyone believe obama? and then mention the transparency of romney? hysterical

the hypocrisy would be laughable if our country wasnt so fucked up

two liars going head to head and the media fanning the flames of partisan bullshit, and the sycophantic sheep cheering them on




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Posted: 10/7/2012 6:40:40 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rooster010:

how can you believe what either of these talking heads say?

history shows us that you can not

it is funny to watch the idiots who voted for obama call romney dishonest, or accuse him of saying things and then changing his position

then they feign outrage at how anyone can believe romney

how can anyone believe obama? and then mention the transparency of romney? hysterical

the hypocrisy would be laughable if our country wasnt so fucked up

two liars going head to head and the media fanning the flames of partisan bullshit, and the sycophantic sheep cheering them on






But it's not funny to watch the idiots who will vote for romney right??

You're as big of a romney supporter as anyone I know.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 7:35:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Stiln:



But it's not funny to watch the idiots who will vote for romney right??

You're as big of a romney supporter as anyone I know.

Yeah, sure he is. Maybe the next time you call someone dumb or stupid you should include yourself.

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Posted: 10/7/2012 7:43:42 PM
Stiln,

rooster is not a fan of either candidate but he does attack posters a bit on the heavy side.


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Posted: 10/7/2012 8:44:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rooster010:

how can you believe what either of these talking heads say?

history shows us that you can not

it is funny to watch the idiots who voted for obama call romney dishonest, or accuse him of saying things and then changing his position

then they feign outrage at how anyone can believe romney

how can anyone believe obama? and then mention the transparency of romney? hysterical

the hypocrisy would be laughable if our country wasnt so fucked up

two liars going head to head and the media fanning the flames of partisan bullshit, and the sycophantic sheep cheering them on







Romney is a DOCUMENTED flip-flopper.  This is why he won't carry his own home States of Massachusetts and Michigan.  The people closest to him KNOW FIRST HAND that he is a political chameleon.

You can certainly make a case for Obama cooking numbers and stretching facts, but on what positions has Obama flipped-flopped?  I'll give you GITMO even though Obama was not privy to all the intelligence information prior to his winning the Presidency.  It's understandable he flipped on GITMO once he was briefed and fully understood the strategical importance of keeping that facility open.  But on what positions has Obama flip-flopped?  Name me one, because I can name ten others for Romney.

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Posted: 10/7/2012 8:45:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

Yeah, sure he is. Maybe the next time you call someone dumb or stupid you should include yourself.



Saying both candidates are stupid and then only attacking the Obama supporters proves my point. He claims he hates both candidates I don't doubt that necessarily  but he certainly sympathizes and thinks Romney is the "lesser of the two evils"...

Paulbots don't stray too far..
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:31:48 PM
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Saying both candidates are stupid and then only attacking the Obama supporters proves my point. He claims he hates both candidates I don't doubt that necessarily  but he certainly sympathizes and thinks Romney is the "lesser of the two evils"...

Paulbots don't stray too far..

He and I Are probably both are what you would call "Paulbots" . And as much as he leans right I lean left.Guess that screws up your last statement.

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Posted: 10/7/2012 10:12:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

He and I Are probably both are what you would call "Paulbots" . And as much as he leans right I lean left.Guess that screws up your last statement.



Yeah and if you support either Obama or Romney you're a sycophant...no?

Nah.... you just strayed pretty far. There are exceptions, outliers, etc.....However normally not the case..
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Posted: 10/7/2012 11:49:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:




But on what positions has Obama flip-flopped?  Name me one, because I can name ten others for Romney.


happy marriage.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 2:56:53 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Balph:


happy marriage.



Not really a flip-flop.  Obama has always been adamant that happy and lesbian couples should be treated fairly and equally.  He's always supported civil unions, but you are correct in that he did take it a step further by his recent public support of happy marriage.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 6:56:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

He and I Are probably both are what you would call "Paulbots" . And as much as he leans right I lean left.Guess that screws up your last statement.




stiln isnt very smart

ask him about the price of beef or cattle futures
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Posted: 10/8/2012 6:56:59 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

Yeah, sure he is. Maybe the next time you call someone dumb or stupid you should include yourself.




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Posted: 10/8/2012 6:59:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:




Romney is a DOCUMENTED flip-flopper.  This is why he won't carry his own home States of Massachusetts and Michigan.  The people closest to him KNOW FIRST HAND that he is a political chameleon.

You can certainly make a case for Obama cooking numbers and stretching facts, but on what positions has Obama flipped-flopped?  I'll give you GITMO even though Obama was not privy to all the intelligence information prior to his winning the Presidency.  It's understandable he flipped on GITMO once he was briefed and fully understood the strategical importance of keeping that facility open.  But on what positions has Obama flip-flopped?  Name me one, because I can name ten others for Romney.



here ya go you blind sycophant

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

just remember, one is a candidate

one is an actual president


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Posted: 10/8/2012 7:00:18 AM
most transparent president ever
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Posted: 10/8/2012 7:03:04 AM
obama doesnt flip flop

he outright lies and the idiots lap it up
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Posted: 10/8/2012 8:01:06 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

Stiln,

rooster is not a fan of either candidate but he does attack posters a bit on the heavy side.




well thank obama covers has a fair and unbiased moderator on duty
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Posted: 10/8/2012 8:20:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rooster010:



here ya go you blind sycophant

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

just remember, one is a candidate

one is an actual president






Do you NOT UNDERSTAND the difference between a flip-flop and fact stretching?  Apparently not.  Stupid is as stupid does.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 8:22:25 AM

on what positions has Obama flipped-flopped?

Um, his Administration claimed Iraq was a foreign policy success story.

Warrantless wiretapping

Renditions

GITMO

NDAA

Cutting the deficit in half.

For starters...

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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:36:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rooster010:




stiln isnt very smart

ask him about the price of beef or cattle futures


Really? Because I thought I made a pretty good rebuttal for every comment dh made.
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