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Author:	[Horse Racing] Topic: I Think We Will See Triple Crown Winner.............
LOUIEWINS	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 726 Location: Nebraska	#1 Posted: 4/27/2012 12:39:33 PM We've all been waiting for. Yes there appears to be some quality horses in the field but some are pretenders(BODE) the biggest pretender. DULLAHAN in the able hands of DORFFMAN i think will win all 3. POWERFUL ANIMAL down the stretch, where it means the most.
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djbrow	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 11846 Location: United States	#2 Posted: 4/27/2012 12:44:19 PM There is zero percent chance Dullahan wins the triple crown.
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LOUIEWINS	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 726 Location: Nebraska	#3 Posted: 4/27/2012 12:46:49 PM ZERO, so will you give me 500-1 odds on that ??
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Johnnyg7	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1755 Location: Pennsylvania	#4 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:12:18 PM If he wins the Derby he'll be just the 6th in over 80 years to win with a dosage above 4.00. -Never won on dirt -Bluegrass winners ineffective in recent derbies. -Will need perfect trip with his running style in 20 horse field Good luck, but if I was going to bet a synthetic/turf closer it would be Went The Day Well who is probably just as good (or very close) and will be double the odds.
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LOUIEWINS	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 726 Location: Nebraska	#5 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:19:44 PM I respect all opinions Animal Kingdom never won on dirt before last years derby Agreed he will need a good trip but thinking Dorffman knows his way around churchill Bluegrass winner bound to win sometime GL to you
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HolyBull	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 5818 Location: Massachusetts	#6 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:20:07 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Johnnyg7: If he wins the Derby he'll be just the 6th in over 80 years to win with a dosage above 4.00. -Never won on dirt -Bluegrass winners ineffective in recent derbies. -Will need perfect trip with his running style in 20 horse field Good luck, but if I was going to bet a synthetic/turf closer it would be Went The Day Well who is probably just as good (or very close) and will be double the odds. I agree with the comparison, however I'm not so quick to dismiss Went the Day Well as a turf/synthetic type. He has a win and experience on dirt and his breeding is just as sound for 1 1/4 on dirt as it would be turf. HB
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Roused	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 2244 Location:	#7 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:24:49 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by LOUIEWINS: We've all been waiting for. Yes there appears to be some quality horses in the field but some are pretenders(BODE) the biggest pretender. DULLAHAN in the able hands of DORFFMAN i think will win all 3. POWERFUL ANIMAL down the stretch, where it means the most. Great turn off foot in the Bluegrass. Still up against it, but peaking at the right time.
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angrybarber	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sportsbook.com \|
Prospect Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Location: Pennsylvania	#8 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:30:29 PM Hahahahahaha. Dead closers dont win the derby, so good luck with that. Not to mention Dullahan has 3 races at CD and none of them were good. Proven bad dirt form is definitely not a good thing when considering a derby winner especially when his bad dirt form is at CD
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Greyhound	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20797 Location: Wisconsin	#9 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:39:36 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by angrybarber: Hahahahahaha. Dead closers dont win the derby, so good luck with that. Not to mention Dullahan has 3 races at CD and none of them were good. Proven bad dirt form is definitely not a good thing when considering a derby winner especially when his bad dirt form is at CD He was 4th beaten 6 lengths in the Breeders Cup Juvenile last year at Churchill with some trouble. Probably the best and deepest race any of the Derby horses has ran in to date. And he just ran down and beat the winner of that race (Hansen) in the Bluegrass in his last start. His first two races at Churchill were sprints. He's not a sprinter. Look at his workouts on dirt. He's got bullet works and high quality works at both Gulfstream and Churchill. I don't exactly see "proven bad dirt form"
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Greyhound	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20797 Location: Wisconsin	#10 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:50:22 PM And his first two races at Churchill were also the first two races of his career. Not every two year old makes his debut ready to win races. How do you know that the results in those first two races were just because he was a green 2 yr old and not because he was running on dirt?
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angrybarber	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sportsbook.com \|
Prospect Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Location: Pennsylvania	#11 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:54:05 PM Grey give me a break. Seriously.
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angrybarber	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sportsbook.com \|
Prospect Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Location: Pennsylvania	#12 Posted: 4/27/2012 1:57:08 PM It beat hansen on his preferred surface. A horse that has no dirt wins is not gonna win 3 straight on dirt to win the triple crown. so again give me a break
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Greyhound	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20797 Location: Wisconsin	#13 Posted: 4/27/2012 2:12:20 PM Give you a break from what? You make no sense. Show me where it's proven that Dullahan can't run on dirt. Check out Daddy Nose Best past performances. His first two races were on dirt at Churchill also. Didn't win either of them. Matter of fact one of them was the same as Dullahan. Didn't race on dirt again for his next 7 races. His last race he comes out of a race at Golden Gate on synthetic Tapeta and he wins the G3 Sunland Derby ON DIRT.
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Greyhound	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20797 Location: Wisconsin	#14 Posted: 4/27/2012 2:18:07 PM I don't know who you like but please don't claim that Dullahan can't run on dirt and then bet on one of the horses that finished behind him in the BC Juvenile on dirt?
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angrybarber	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sportsbook.com \|
Prospect Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Location: Pennsylvania	#15 Posted: 4/27/2012 2:30:59 PM Dullahan cant run on dirt, if you show me where he can or until he proves otherwise in an actual race then im not gonna stop saying it. Your comparing him to another horse that wont win so who cares. After Dullahan is no where close to winning the KD he will become a turf/synthetic horse,he is clearly a far better horse on turf/synthetic which is clearly shown in his PPs. His fat trainer just wants a horse in the derby.
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angrybarber	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sportsbook.com \|
Prospect Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Location: Pennsylvania	#16 Posted: 4/27/2012 2:33:20 PM By the way who made you the authority on everything????? from beyer speed figures to what surface horses can run on you think you know it all. why dont you go back to making a case for Done Talking who came out of the absolute worst derby prep this year.
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Greyhound	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20797 Location: Wisconsin	#17 Posted: 4/27/2012 2:39:57 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by angrybarber: By the way who made you the authority on everything????? from beyer speed figures to what surface horses can run on you think you know it all. why dont you go back to making a case for Done Talking who came out of the absolute worst derby prep this year. You're the one acting like he knows it all guy. And by the way I've seen this attitude in another thread when you were talking to Spliquid, who's posted more nice paying winners on here then you ever have, that's for sure. Sorry, but I disagree with you that Dullahan can't run on dirt. I post my opinions here just like you are anybody else. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. So tell me, I bet you like a horse that finished behind Dullahan in the BC Juvenile right? Cmon just admit it.
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Greyhound	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20797 Location: Wisconsin	#18 Posted: 4/27/2012 2:55:42 PM There was 4 horse who are in the Derby that finished behind Dullahan in the BC Juvenile. CHART Take Charge Indy Alpha Daddy Long Legs Prospective Optimizer would be another one if he got into the field which I doubt will happen.
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angrybarber	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Sportsbook.com \|
Prospect Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 259 Location: Pennsylvania	#19 Posted: 4/27/2012 4:52:03 PM grey im pretty sure you attacked my statement, so how do i like i know everything. i was just defending my statement....and youve seen this attitude before???? hahaha what are you a principal. and ive never said anything bout any of your post until you attacked mine. because like i said before you think your the authority on everything and yea im such a bad clueless handicapper ill take all 4 of those horses boxed...
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Johnzimbo34	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 873 Location: Texas	#20 Posted: 4/27/2012 6:39:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by LOUIEWINS: ZERO, so will you give me 500-1 odds on that ?? Wynn Las Vegas has Dullahan 50-1 to win the triple crown. Book your flight!
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CleeK111	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Rookie Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 808 Location: Kentucky	#21 Posted: 4/27/2012 7:04:08 PM Big Brown was the closest we have had to win the triple crown and that didn't happen
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Kurshka	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 15108 Location: California	#22 Posted: 4/27/2012 8:00:58 PM That horse has about the same chance of winning the TC as the Brewers going to the World Series. Leona.
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Chicapper	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 1333 Location: United States	#23 Posted: 4/27/2012 8:03:57 PM
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Kurshka	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 15108 Location: California	#24 Posted: 4/27/2012 8:06:26 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by CleeK111: Big Brown was the closest we have had to win the triple crown and that didn't happen Doubt we will ever see another TC winner for many reasons. My biggest two are the races are to close together for these babys and too many drugs involved. And how is Dutrow still training. That piece of garbage should be banned for life.
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Kurshka	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 15108 Location: California	#25 Posted: 4/27/2012 8:07:41 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Chicapper: Think the Library is closed so Leona has no internet access.
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