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Posted: 2/9/2011 12:25:23 AM
been working out 3-6 days per week the last 3 years

last week was taking a 50 lb dumbell overhead from behind the back and raising it and felt something in my neck.  have had neck injuries and strains in the past but this one felt worse than before.  worked out twice later that week (like an idiot thinking it would go away because it always does) but havent been able to work out since.

pinched nerve maybe or rotator cuff injury?  neck is better but feel a slight pain down my shoulder and upper arm.  i just did cardio today and i dont want to lift and f this up more.

any experienced weight lifters here have some needed advice or similar experiences.  i am sick to my stomach i cant workout right now as i have become fanatical but i would be disgusted if i have a torn rotator cuff.  its kind of freakin this mate out.
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Posted: 2/9/2011 12:29:56 AM
mugg i need your advice and i know you are going to be critical of me working out after that but seriously do you think its a bad thing....i felt a pain putting a shirt on the other day but nothing like that since.  just discomfort like a shooting pain into my upper arm from my shoulder area, neck pain was/still kind of is in center of neck down by shoulder area.
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Posted: 2/9/2011 5:39:50 PM
i would not freak yourself out.  more than likely its a muscle pull and i would suggest you stop doing things that require your body to move ways it should not.  while the workout you talk about used to be fairly popular, it strains your shoulders badly and there are many workouts now that will get you the same or better results without the strain of that weight or muscles on your shoulders. 

more than likely its a c7 muscle pull, which effects many nerves in that area, right down to the finger tips.  take some time off of the weights, its ok.  do some cardio in the meantime and build yourself back up slowly when the pain goes away.  a chiropractor can help tho i dont swear by them.  

if it persists for a while i would go see a doctor who knows what they are talking about in regards to this.  thats why seeing a chiropractor isnt so bad as they can refer you to someone with more experience in the shoulder area (surgeon)...not that it will come to that but a good start. 

any motions with weights you are doing behind your head like lat pulls or with dumbells like you mention is a recipe for disaster over time.   hopefully this is just a short term lesson.

try to stay active throughout the day, if you sit around on a couch or computer you will probably notice it gets worse.  posture is the key in this so try not to look down as much.  move around and stretch the neck, get a massage and loosen that stuff up.  my guess is you're a ball of knots and those muscles need to breath. 



point is your body is tired and is telling you to stop/take a break and my guess is you are getting older, probably not 20 anymore.  short term success is not worth long term agony.  take care of your body, its the only one you get.
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Posted: 2/10/2011 8:58:14 AM
There are general home treatments for neck/shoulder injuries.  Take aspirin or ibuprofen.  Apply ice pack for pain and inflammation to promote healing.  If condition doesn't improve over time, see a doctor.
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Posted: 2/17/2011 12:42:07 PM
going to see a shoulder specialist tomorrow i guess.  i cant still lift and its been two weeks.  feels like a tweak and the sharp pain shoots down my upper arm.  something aint right

just hope i didnt tear a rotator cuff or something.  i have good parts of the day and more painful parts.

chiro went to twice and seems every time she made it worse.  this doc is a surgeon on shoulders so gonna see what he has to say.  maybe its just a pinched nerve sick of wondering.
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Posted: 2/18/2011 2:31:10 PM
specialist thinks it may be SLAP/labral tear and basically ruled out pinched nerve and rotator cuff , going for mri next week, this just sucks if it is what he thinks.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 12:34:34 AM
  Aww that would be real shitty I hope it is just overworked, when was the last time you had a rest week.
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Posted: 2/19/2011 10:26:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 4theluvofmoney:

specialist thinks it may be SLAP/labral tear and basically ruled out pinched nerve and rotator cuff , going for mri next week, this just sucks if it is what he thinks.

 Have a friend that has a slap tear.........bicep/shoulder.........& requires surgery to fix it. He tried resting it but it flares up with the slightest exertion.
 I hope your injury is less serious
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Posted: 2/20/2011 12:39:59 AM
thanks mugg

the pain comes and goes..some days are better than others...holding out hope its anything but that or rotator cuff tear.  

did they try phys therapy first for your friend.  i read a lot online they will try this first before surgery?

also, is his pain just unbelievable trying to lift a bottle of water or reaching in a higher cupboard?  mine is not like that, more shooting pain and/or uncomfortable feeling.

sorry just curious cuz i am freakng the f out with not being able to work out and golf.

thx for all your help
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Posted: 2/20/2011 7:39:44 PM
sorry to hear this man, stay positive.

look at the bright side, worst case is you need surgery and you will be able to lift again within the year.  i am sure you will be able to learn new exercises and you will be able to maintain your cardio or build it to an all time level.  Furthermore, your legs will be able to be worked out and more then likely your abs.  so you're a cut skinny guy for a while.  its good to change your body up once in a while...

keep your head up, it happens to the best of us, maybe its not even that, thats why you are getting an mri, because he isnt sure.
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Posted: 3/3/2011 5:31:16 PM

well final word from mri was rotator cuff and bicep tendinitis.  the doc says there may be little tears in there, but nothing worth anything more than an effort of phys therapy at this time.  which i think i will just skip and do exercises at home.

also, shoulder feeling fine until i went for mri this week and he shot me for the arthrogram.  pretty painful then and since.

 

all in all good news, anyone else have this??

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Posted: 3/4/2011 4:58:25 PM
good stuff, you at least want to do those exercises at home if pain free.  make sure your pain free basically first.  i would ramp up the cardio so u dont lose everything
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Posted: 3/5/2011 1:48:57 AM
Money, I am not down playing your discomfort, since you seem to have a good selfawareness of your own structure....and I've shown up to the party late.

I had a torn up rotater cuff from a Hockey injury that I didn't think would not just go away with more excercise....

As you found out it doesn't, but I was thinking a tedinitis issue myself, and upon reading to the end of this thread, I see that you found it out for sure.......and I fear that your mental routine of working out on such a strong regimen is not going to be happy with the down time it will take for it to go away....

Hopefully they have little tricks similar to what Rickey Henderson used to use on his hamstrings that allowed those rather moody crabby muscles and connective ligaments to heal quicker.

Best of luck to ya....
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Posted: 3/8/2011 1:53:14 PM
thanks everyone, so to post my trials and tribulations...

went to see phys therapist who through a friend let me in for free to evaluate me and talk to me.  did different tests and stuff and gave me a massage basically.  he thinks rest is the best cure for this.  he even said doing some cardio with inclines and using arms may not let muscles fully heal.  he thinks its more a muscles issue in neck and other areas near shoulder rather than a rc/biceps problem.  he said i would be in some real pain when he was testing me.  he says despite the mri saying inflammation and tendonitis of rc and biceps, he thinks massage some stretching and rest is the best way.  he says 4 to 6 weeks more of some good rest may be the ticket then starting back slowly.  he thinks i just pulled some stuff pretty dam good.

the saga continues, starting to feel like a lazy fat dude.
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Posted: 3/9/2011 4:43:56 PM

If there is a god, he's a PT.

Those guys are incredibly well trained and able to get to the bottom of a lot of injuries.

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Posted: 3/9/2011 7:33:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

If there is a god, he's a PT.

Those guys are incredibly well trained and able to get to the bottom of a lot of injuries.


it was amazing and relieving talking to him.  he followed up with me the next day and says he would love to get me in there one more time "on him" if i think i need it.  what a nice guy.  i am just gonna rest the rest of the week and slowly start doing some cardio and light leg stuff.  Hoping by april i will start light weights and be in full swing with some exercise adjustments for may to get the summer body rocking again
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Posted: 3/9/2011 10:27:24 PM
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it was amazing and relieving talking to him.  he followed up with me the next day and says he would love to get me in there one more time "on him" if i think i need it.  what a nice guy.  i am just gonna rest the rest of the week and slowly start doing some cardio and light leg stuff.  Hoping by april i will start light weights and be in full swing with some exercise adjustments for may to get the summer body rocking again

That's great news. So many people have no idea how skilled PT's are.

A story. Years ago I was training real heavy, 400lbs squats, deadlifts, sick kind of intensity - etc. Was nothing new but I started getting these slight headaches but thought little of it. Slowly the headaches began severely thumping directly in the back of my head constantly whenever I was vertical. (flat on my back was ok). I visited 2 nuerologists, MRI's, you name I did it, but still the horrific headaches continued. I stopped training for 2 months, became incredibly depressed, drinking heavily, sleeping all day in a dark room... to the point where I was ready to take my own life...absolutely no joke. This was no friggin way to live.

One strange day I ran into a good friend of mine who's a PT. I told him about my symptoms and situation. Next day I was in his office on the table and after extensive assesment he found a knot just beneath my ear on the left side neck muscle and began to gently loosen it. My legs flopped around, eyes watered up, sweat poured off of my skin everytime he applied even the slightest of pressure in a circular motion.

I spent the next 3 weeks, 3 x a week having that knot pressed on, stretched and mobilized to the point of pain that cannot be described..

My headaches were completely gone after the final session and life began once again. I have tears in my eyes just talking about this episode.

His name is Rob and he saved my life.

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Posted: 3/9/2011 11:59:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

That's great news. So many people have no idea how skilled PT's are.

A story. Years ago I was training real heavy, 400lbs squats, deadlifts, sick kind of intensity - etc. Was nothing new but I started getting these slight headaches but thought little of it. Slowly the headaches began severely thumping directly in the back of my head constantly whenever I was vertical. (flat on my back was ok). I visited 2 nuerologists, MRI's, you name I did it, but still the horrific headaches continued. I stopped training for 2 months, became incredibly depressed, drinking heavily, sleeping all day in a dark room... to the point where I was ready to take my own life...absolutely no joke. This was no friggin way to live.

One strange day I ran into a good friend of mine who's a PT. I told him about my symptoms and situation. Next day I was in his office on the table and after extensive assesment he found a knot just beneath my ear on the left side neck muscle and began to gently loosen it. My legs flopped around, eyes watered up, sweat poured off of my skin everytime he applied even the slightest of pressure in a circular motion.

I spent the next 3 weeks, 3 x a week having that knot pressed on, stretched and mobilized to the point of pain that cannot be described..

My headaches were completely gone after the final session and life began once again. I have tears in my eyes just talking about this episode.

His name is Rob and he saved my life.


amazing story, i had one similar with a fatty tumor on my chest.  thought i was dieing, seriously.  i was freaking out with chest pain, took myself to ER once and they said everything was fine.  had ekg, everything fine, etc etc.  i kept telling these idiot drs something aint right, have trouble breathing, something feels weird in my chest by my heart.  

went to see a surgeon my mom said we had to go see and he felt my chest and said right away, you have a fatty tumor in there.  he said no big deal, we will test of course, but its pushing on muscles making everything feel uncomfortable.  had outpatient surgery two weeks later and was fine.  here is was thinking i was dieing for 2 months and it was something simple.

he said caffeine and as the name of it, fatty foods cause it.  well i was 215 and way out of shape at the time because i let my muscles from football smooth over and ate like garbage when i was done playing.  so after that i lost a ton of weight, got a job at a gym, and now healthy as an ox at 30 and am the gm of one of the best health clubs in the state.  amazing how things that scare you straight can change your whole life around.

anyway, sorry for rambling, glad to hear you are bette luv and good stuff search, i know all about what you felt.  a lot of scary nights.
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Posted: 3/27/2011 11:50:44 AM
man crazy stories, glad both ok after all that scary stuff

anyway my shoulder is much better..had chance to play basketball and felt good and am running 3 days a week about 3 miles, do light ab work, and do lunges and squats (no weights), right now for last two weeks.  gonna pick it up a little next week and then in two weeks start weights

i am a bit heavier now than i have been in 3 years with 2 months of inactivity but this should be as fat as i get now that i am back to doing some stuff, gotta clean up by diet and that will do wonders

just hoping the weights wont f me up, but gonna go real light
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