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Posted: 1/25/2011 12:27:49 AM

brief overview.. used to be a d2 football player, played at 205.. this was 10 yrs ago.. got lazy as darn. now weigh 250. I want to get back to 205-210 which i know is about DIET but what i want help on is this...The reason I mention my athletic background is just to show I have a clue in the weigh room and what type of build i had.

i really havent lifted weights except off n on and mostly off for the past 6 years.. But in November 2010 til current I have actually been lifting regularly and with good effort(not half assing it). The diet has been the same, shitty.. So I have not lost any weight but at least I feel stronger and my strength gains are show on the exercises, etc. But now I want to look good on the mutha f'in beach come June so i need some help as to what type of weight training I should do(sets/reps) or if anyone has a program to utilize as I cut back diet wise.. I want to lose at least 40 lbs but still lift hard, should i go high reps? does it matter as long as I am doing something? maybe someone on here as been there done that and thats why I am asking? i would ask a fitness board but not on any.. and if you do not like my post, dont reply... thanks

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Posted: 1/25/2011 1:35:14 AM
can't imagine i could tell you anything about weight lifting that you don't already know.

as a former d1 runner, i would say add some swimming, cycling, or running into your workouts.

cut down on meal proportions. try to have 3-5 smaller meals.

cut corners... ie: grilled chicken instead of fried.

drink less alcohol.
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Posted: 1/26/2011 1:28:06 AM
Train with high intensity and lots of anger. 
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Posted: 1/31/2011 9:09:22 PM
Supersets and circuit train with good muscle confusion.  Incorporate an hr of walking in a day.  Someone your size should burn about 400-420 cal an hr with the brisk walk and it doesn't shock your system the way that running can, causing you to retain fluid and release cortisol.
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Posted: 1/31/2011 11:58:19 PM
cardio- followed by more cardio- and get that diet in order
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Posted: 2/1/2011 8:51:41 PM

Thanks guys, I must say I have run into a small problem with my shoulders/rotator cuffs.. They are extremely sore all the time recently.. I try to loosen them up b4 chest days and shoulder days but wow they are killing me..

anyone else ever get this problem?

I have not stopped lifting but man, the workouts suck with that constant pain..

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Posted: 2/3/2011 12:39:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

Thanks guys, I must say I have run into a small problem with my shoulders/rotator cuffs.. They are extremely sore all the time recently.. I try to loosen them up b4 chest days and shoulder days but wow they are killing me..

anyone else ever get this problem?

I have not stopped lifting but man, the workouts suck with that constant pain..

 The obvious answer is.......STOP!

 If you're having constant pain somewhere, especially in a joint, you're not going to "work through it"........you could make it a lot worse. I got tendinitis in my elbows a few years ago & it lasted for over a year.......until i finally rested them completely......for 3 months. I'm sure that's not the answer you were looking for but it's reality.  You're older now & can't just pick up & start throwing weights like you could years ago.........gotta ease into a bit.

 Give it a week, maybe two & see how it feels. Meanwhile, go long on aerobic-type exercises....... concentrate on working your legs (squats/lunges), they are your big calorie burners....... & eat chicken, fish, veggies.......cut out soda, beer, ice cream, basically anything with a lot of sugar/dead calories...........GL

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Posted: 2/4/2011 3:51:15 PM

do more interval training. lift high reps and stay away from parts that hurt. you are just hindering your body by working out if you're hurt. take the time to recover and go back at it.

 

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Posted: 2/4/2011 9:19:57 PM
HGH if you can afford
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Posted: 2/5/2011 12:02:21 AM

LOL how  much does HGH cost and where do u get it?

seriously, its something I want to work thru, Its soreness that is lingering that I dont have at other body parts after working out at this point..

I have dropped back to 3 sets of 12 and lighter weight all around

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Posted: 2/5/2011 8:27:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

Thanks guys, I must say I have run into a small problem with my shoulders/rotator cuffs.. They are extremely sore all the time recently.. I try to loosen them up b4 chest days and shoulder days but wow they are killing me..

anyone else ever get this problem?

I have not stopped lifting but man, the workouts suck with that constant pain..


I've had the same problems. Take it easy until the pain subsides.When you bench, don't flare out your elbows, tuck them and it puts less stress on them.

In the rep range you're in, you'll burn a decent amount of calories. If you start to see you're losing strength (which is likely since you're losing weight), try lifting heavy. I lift in the 4-6 rep range to preserve strength. This also means that I need to do cardio to burn calories (which sucks), but I do keep my strength.
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Posted: 2/6/2011 3:03:49 PM

my man....

ex professional baseball player here.... lower levels..

anyway I know about shoulder problems..... plyed football in highschool and lifted like a football player but chose baseball.. not a good mix...

about the shoulder problem.....  get a set of crossover symetry cords..  do the workouts they give you for a little... I went from not being able to bench the last 3 years.... to benching with no pain now.... sure beats surgery...

I am now a baseball coach....  and we use these... no arm injuries..ever!!!

as for the weight... I am in same boat... 250 now want to get back to highschool 215..

I do suggest more athletic movments instead of old school lifting...

google stack tv workouts

 

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Posted: 2/12/2011 8:44:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

LOL how  much does HGH cost and where do u get it?

seriously, its something I want to work thru, Its soreness that is lingering that I dont have at other body parts after working out at this point..

I have dropped back to 3 sets of 12 and lighter weight all around

I have worked out my whole life and I'm 41. At 5"10 200, I have had a range of 195-217 since I turned 30. My biggest problems are portion sizes, alcohol, and skipping cardio. Love weights so it's easy to justify skipping cardio.  I did P90x last summer. I didn't measure fat %, but stuck through every workout. I followed the recommended diet for the first 60 days. I cut back to only 2 days a week for alcohol. I like high-gravity beers but they have 300 calories each! I used to think one a day wouldn't hurt, but that's 2100 calories a week! Forced cardio and diet helped me go from 208 to 195 in 90 days.  Lost some strength due to not having a full dumb bell stash at the house, but can kill pull ups now.  Went from 35 to 32 in waist.

 

As for shoulders, here are several moves I used to do that I picked up from watching others at the gym and from magazines.  After years of recurring shoulder pain, I finally realized that some of these moves must have been contributors.  Haven't done them in 2 years and haven't had shoulder pain in 2 years.  Can't tell you which single one was guilty, but you should skip these. Anybody that tells you different has just gotten lucky to not get hurt. My college roommate is a surgeon and primarly focuses on shoulders. Following his advice has been great. I thought I was going to have to deal with the pain forever.

 

NEVER DO:

-Lat pulldowns behind your head

-Military press behind your head

-Heavy shrugs with a long bar

You can do modified versions of these. All of these put your shoulders in a vulnerable position and increase your risk for injury. My buddy's advice, and he is a surgeon. You do need to take a week or two off to let everything calm down. Best workout advice I ever got, and my buddy doesn't even lift weights. Hope it helps.

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Posted: 2/16/2011 8:07:52 AM
After you get those joints rested, check out some of the free dumbbell cardio workouts you can get from Exercise TV either on demand (Comcast) or Hulu...free and legal.  I used to hit the weights religiously up until college, but since I've been doing the Body By Jake workouts (search for Marco Reed if you go to Hulu) I've got more definition in my arms than ever before.  The only thing I've really got to work on is my beer gut! 
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