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    Bellucci v Davydenko

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    Selcouth
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 6:24 AM ET #1

    On a perfect run in Paris going into Wednesday in Paris.

    Rolled with 2 favourites in Maric Cilic and Stanislas Wawrinka for today action.

    Short on time but locking In Bellucci to unleash a host of problems for his Russian opponent Davydenko.

    Was on the Brazilian to defeat Kohlschreiber in his previous match and will continue to ride the Bellucci express.

    Davydenko could dismantle opponents with his speed and counter tennis prior to his wrist surgery. Today his name still imposes a short price.

    Since his return Davydenko is hitting to flat and is accumulating more than twice as many unforced errors than prior to the layoff. If Kohlschreiber couldnt play the lines with his back hand, Davydenko is not going to be able to match forehands with Bellucci.

    Davydenko is having trouble cutting off the court and drawing opponents to defend the forehand and than hitting the winner to the opponents forehand side which is open waters for a high percentage winner.

    At the season's begining Bellucci stock was on the rise before personal issues took him off the ATP tour. He showed signs of his potential on hard court last match. He gets to net on opponents serve to easily and that alone will limit the time Davydenko has to bring in his medium game in a rally otherwise Bellucci will push him beyond the baseline.

    Davydenko's recent production is placing a large amount of presure on his serve and Bellucci will have no problem returning his last serve in better than just in play return defence. If Davydenko can not serve a high percentage fist serves, the second serve iwill have to have acute placement or Bellucci will be in control of the rally from the return of the serve.

    Bellucci is comming off a 3 set marathon which favors Davydenko who is better over the 3 set format than the 5 set Grand Slam format. But that for myself is no reason to not take Bellucci who is basically a no event no name to the public unless you follow the sport and getting that included into the value. Davydenko is going to be in a fight and I'm backing the better player on form and leaving past expliots for the historians.

    Belucci for the win

     

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    On a perfect run in Paris going into Wednesday in Paris.

    Rolled with 2 favourites in Maric Cilic and Stanislas Wawrinka for today action.

    Short on time but locking In Bellucci to unleash a host of problems for his Russian opponent Davydenko.

    Was on the Brazilian to defeat Kohlschreiber in his previous match and will continue to ride the Bellucci express.

    Davydenko could dismantle opponents with his speed and counter tennis prior to his wrist surgery. Today his name still imposes a short price.

    Since his return Davydenko is hitting to flat and is accumulating more than twice as many unforced errors than prior to the layoff. If Kohlschreiber couldnt play the lines with his back hand, Davydenko is not going to be able to match forehands with Bellucci.

    Davydenko is having trouble cutting off the court and drawing opponents to defend the forehand and than hitting the winner to the opponents forehand side which is open waters for a high percentage winner.

    At the season's begining Bellucci stock was on the rise before personal issues took him off the ATP tour. He showed signs of his potential on hard court last match. He gets to net on opponents serve to easily and that alone will limit the time Davydenko has to bring in his medium game in a rally otherwise Bellucci will push him beyond the baseline.

    Davydenko's recent production is placing a large amount of presure on his serve and Bellucci will have no problem returning his last serve in better than just in play return defence. If Davydenko can not serve a high percentage fist serves, the second serve iwill have to have acute placement or Bellucci will be in control of the rally from the return of the serve.

    Bellucci is comming off a 3 set marathon which favors Davydenko who is better over the 3 set format than the 5 set Grand Slam format. But that for myself is no reason to not take Bellucci who is basically a no event no name to the public unless you follow the sport and getting that included into the value. Davydenko is going to be in a fight and I'm backing the better player on form and leaving past expliots for the historians.

    Belucci for the win

     

    GL

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 6:28 AM ET #2

    same side finally! one unit risked here. gl to you on this one for sure Selcouth. Cilic looks ready to win for ya too so nice start if that holds.
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    same side finally! one unit risked here. gl to you on this one for sure Selcouth. Cilic looks ready to win for ya too so nice start if that holds.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 6:30 AM ET #3

    Can you please link these picks you supposedly won on?

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    Can you please link these picks you supposedly won on?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 6:36 AM ET #4

    Also try posting picks before they are almost finished

    Posting Cilic when he is up a break in the 3rd provides nothing to this forum

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    Also try posting picks before they are almost finished

    Posting Cilic when he is up a break in the 3rd provides nothing to this forum

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 7:08 AM ET #5

    BP26: More confident with you playing the same side of the net on this. Finally started to hit that roll you foretold. Hope the odds and results are favouring you. Best of luck to you for Paris.

    Troublesome444: First of I dont bow to your police state forum tactics that you try to enforce. So this YOU against the world attitude doesnt stand over me.

    Your character reference of the man behind your user name and keyboard is obvious. Use the manner and words you would use to me in the physical form. Or I will galdly fly you first class to my presence to take you up on your little man syndrome.

    I'm not hear for fame, havent posted much as of late and I will gladly send you my winning wagers if you want the evidence of my perfect Paris wagering. Not in favour of influencing on even well priced favourites, but plus money I do as with Bellucci. Though I posted in your Berdych thread yesterday to offer some advice to you who were doomed to even think Serra would get a set. 

    Your not the invincible force that has recruited himself on the mission of protecting and policing the covers forums.

    Every tactic you have used on myself I see you trying to impose on others. Telling members they have other account user names and are ghosts from the past.

    I dont have time to live enternally logged in to covers like yourself. So show some respect and send myself your luck for a change of good will.

    Our banter has crossed two forums and multiple threads. Sent you out a request which on acceptence will PM you the details about the Miami line so you can reply to myself instead of leaving off topic messages in other forums awaiting my possible findings.

    And if you havent realised, your over use of the confused emotion and rape it of its meaning.

    This is a forum of free speech within reason. So continue your wreckless comments, but expect to be shot down.

    Out of here, but will check your state of play on the situation next visit. So if you want my shopping address that is up to you. If you want wager evidence, that again is up to you. But stay away from the cheap comments. No group or individual is behind you and your wreckless comments or attitude. Now I I will cease here so you can get back to your un-educated short talk with RJ Sizzle.

    GL Troublesome444 with your picks in Paris, hope you you are winning. Then least you will have something going for you.

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    BP26: More confident with you playing the same side of the net on this. Finally started to hit that roll you foretold. Hope the odds and results are favouring you. Best of luck to you for Paris.

    Troublesome444: First of I dont bow to your police state forum tactics that you try to enforce. So this YOU against the world attitude doesnt stand over me.

    Your character reference of the man behind your user name and keyboard is obvious. Use the manner and words you would use to me in the physical form. Or I will galdly fly you first class to my presence to take you up on your little man syndrome.

    I'm not hear for fame, havent posted much as of late and I will gladly send you my winning wagers if you want the evidence of my perfect Paris wagering. Not in favour of influencing on even well priced favourites, but plus money I do as with Bellucci. Though I posted in your Berdych thread yesterday to offer some advice to you who were doomed to even think Serra would get a set. 

    Your not the invincible force that has recruited himself on the mission of protecting and policing the covers forums.

    Every tactic you have used on myself I see you trying to impose on others. Telling members they have other account user names and are ghosts from the past.

    I dont have time to live enternally logged in to covers like yourself. So show some respect and send myself your luck for a change of good will.

    Our banter has crossed two forums and multiple threads. Sent you out a request which on acceptence will PM you the details about the Miami line so you can reply to myself instead of leaving off topic messages in other forums awaiting my possible findings.

    And if you havent realised, your over use of the confused emotion and rape it of its meaning.

    This is a forum of free speech within reason. So continue your wreckless comments, but expect to be shot down.

    Out of here, but will check your state of play on the situation next visit. So if you want my shopping address that is up to you. If you want wager evidence, that again is up to you. But stay away from the cheap comments. No group or individual is behind you and your wreckless comments or attitude. Now I I will cease here so you can get back to your un-educated short talk with RJ Sizzle.

    GL Troublesome444 with your picks in Paris, hope you you are winning. Then least you will have something going for you.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 7:15 AM ET #6

    Please explain how posting Cilic as a wager when he is up a break in the 3rd helps this forum?

    Who supports me in  calling out frauds like yourself doesn't mean anything to me.

    Honesty isn't that hard in life...try it sometime

    And I love the perfect run in Paris line...1-0  is your record

     

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    Please explain how posting Cilic as a wager when he is up a break in the 3rd helps this forum?

    Who supports me in  calling out frauds like yourself doesn't mean anything to me.

    Honesty isn't that hard in life...try it sometime

    And I love the perfect run in Paris line...1-0  is your record

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 7:19 AM ET #7

    And you can post the link for the Miami line right here...because you were not getting -7.5 when the line was -9.5 to -10.5

     

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    And you can post the link for the Miami line right here...because you were not getting -7.5 when the line was -9.5 to -10.5

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 7:26 AM ET #8

    I really feel Davy will win this one quite easily despite recent performances. Belluci is just not anywhere near the same class as Davydenko when challenged and can see him winning it 7-5 6-2 but good luck Sel interesting point of view

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    I really feel Davy will win this one quite easily despite recent performances. Belluci is just not anywhere near the same class as Davydenko when challenged and can see him winning it 7-5 6-2 but good luck Sel interesting point of view

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 7:51 AM ET #9

    On average Davydenko has not even played top 40 tennis since his return from wrist injury. And last week vs Chela and Simon he was not even playing top 80 tennis. I think anyone decent/ above average on a HC can get him now and the question is whether Bellucci is above average on a hard court. My slight doubts about Bellucci are why I am only putting a unit on it.

    The great thing about fading Davydenko is that if he wins here the market will immediately give him too much credit and add value to the fade in subsequent rounds. I view this like a longterm play, though I certainly like the value on Bellucci in a one off as well, but my point is I seriously, seriously doubt Davydenko makes a deep run given the tough field and am willing to invest in that belief.
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    On average Davydenko has not even played top 40 tennis since his return from wrist injury. And last week vs Chela and Simon he was not even playing top 80 tennis. I think anyone decent/ above average on a HC can get him now and the question is whether Bellucci is above average on a hard court. My slight doubts about Bellucci are why I am only putting a unit on it.

    The great thing about fading Davydenko is that if he wins here the market will immediately give him too much credit and add value to the fade in subsequent rounds. I view this like a longterm play, though I certainly like the value on Bellucci in a one off as well, but my point is I seriously, seriously doubt Davydenko makes a deep run given the tough field and am willing to invest in that belief.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:04 AM ET #10

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:13 AM ET #11

    Davy!

    but gl
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    Davy!

    but gl
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:41 AM ET #12

    Boy has Federer's odds come way down?
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:44 AM ET #13

    thats cuz they were too high to begin with, he has never even made the final here and lost in round one to benneteau last year and gasquet has always played him tight, has the crowd, tons of reasons
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    thats cuz they were too high to begin with, he has never even made the final here and lost in round one to benneteau last year and gasquet has always played him tight, has the crowd, tons of reasons
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 10:44 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    And you can post the link for the Miami line right here...because you were not getting -7.5 when the line was -9.5 to -10.5

     

     

    Troublesome444: With respect to the people who contribute on in this forum which includes yourself outside of my threads and a select few others who you have a witch hunt against, I offered to bring this showdown to a private interlude.

    You made a wreckless comment in one of my early threads that I put you in your place for and you are looking for ways to counter attack in an act of revenge. I'm travelling so I'm using various books

    So lets do this!

    You will find the Miami line as I stated at the following link:

    https://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Default.aspx?State=2

    - Click on 'Results' and bring up the 'American Football' results for SUN 07 NOV.

    - Then click on the Miami Flor v Maryland link

    You called me out in public halls and labeled myself as a fraud. So please return with humble words to correct yourself that the line wasnt a myth and that and not a fabricated a lie.

    You rejected the offer to communicate via PM's, so here it is as you requested. If you wish take the offer you can have my private wagering details and view my 'Perfect Paris'. Then Maybe I pass your check list and win favor in your audition process.

    Otherwise please remove from commenting in my threads with useless information that only fuel your vendedor against myself so I can respond to the comments of those like BP26 and Bobbys_pregame who contributed to the breakdown of Bellucci v Davydenko.

    If you want to be a tyrant spend it the magnitudes of other users who you cant get along with. But dont bring your one clown circus carnival act in my threads.

    When will you cease being so defencive and except the wreath of peace when I check out. Don't you think that if we collaberate we are going to set a better standard for winning than the forum watching us go to war.

    Good luck in the college football tomorrow T444

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    And you can post the link for the Miami line right here...because you were not getting -7.5 when the line was -9.5 to -10.5

     

     

    Troublesome444: With respect to the people who contribute on in this forum which includes yourself outside of my threads and a select few others who you have a witch hunt against, I offered to bring this showdown to a private interlude.

    You made a wreckless comment in one of my early threads that I put you in your place for and you are looking for ways to counter attack in an act of revenge. I'm travelling so I'm using various books

    So lets do this!

    You will find the Miami line as I stated at the following link:

    https://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Default.aspx?State=2

    - Click on 'Results' and bring up the 'American Football' results for SUN 07 NOV.

    - Then click on the Miami Flor v Maryland link

    You called me out in public halls and labeled myself as a fraud. So please return with humble words to correct yourself that the line wasnt a myth and that and not a fabricated a lie.

    You rejected the offer to communicate via PM's, so here it is as you requested. If you wish take the offer you can have my private wagering details and view my 'Perfect Paris'. Then Maybe I pass your check list and win favor in your audition process.

    Otherwise please remove from commenting in my threads with useless information that only fuel your vendedor against myself so I can respond to the comments of those like BP26 and Bobbys_pregame who contributed to the breakdown of Bellucci v Davydenko.

    If you want to be a tyrant spend it the magnitudes of other users who you cant get along with. But dont bring your one clown circus carnival act in my threads.

    When will you cease being so defencive and except the wreath of peace when I check out. Don't you think that if we collaberate we are going to set a better standard for winning than the forum watching us go to war.

    Good luck in the college football tomorrow T444

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    On average Davydenko has not even played top 40 tennis since his return from wrist injury. And last week vs Chela and Simon he was not even playing top 80 tennis. I think anyone decent/ above average on a HC can get him now and the question is whether Bellucci is above average on a hard court. My slight doubts about Bellucci are why I am only putting a unit on it.

    The great thing about fading Davydenko is that if he wins here the market will immediately give him too much credit and add value to the fade in subsequent rounds. I view this like a longterm play, though I certainly like the value on Bellucci in a one off as well, but my point is I seriously, seriously doubt Davydenko makes a deep run given the tough field and am willing to invest in that belief.

    Great comment BP.

    Davydenko takes 1st set in the writing of this. Will set 2 offer Bellucci backers hope for a decider? On conclusion of no, will offer my congratulations in advance to the many Davydenko investers.

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    On average Davydenko has not even played top 40 tennis since his return from wrist injury. And last week vs Chela and Simon he was not even playing top 80 tennis. I think anyone decent/ above average on a HC can get him now and the question is whether Bellucci is above average on a hard court. My slight doubts about Bellucci are why I am only putting a unit on it.

    The great thing about fading Davydenko is that if he wins here the market will immediately give him too much credit and add value to the fade in subsequent rounds. I view this like a longterm play, though I certainly like the value on Bellucci in a one off as well, but my point is I seriously, seriously doubt Davydenko makes a deep run given the tough field and am willing to invest in that belief.

    Great comment BP.

    Davydenko takes 1st set in the writing of this. Will set 2 offer Bellucci backers hope for a decider? On conclusion of no, will offer my congratulations in advance to the many Davydenko investers.

     
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    First of all it took 4 days for you to post anything...not sure why it needed 4 days. Secondly...tabsportsbook? Come on man...I knew if you had something it would be some sportsbook that nobody outside of Australia uses.

    If the point of a forum is to help people...include lines that most people can get....do you understand the reasoning behind this? Or do I need to elaborate more on the subject?

    But based on what I saw it does say -7.5 .... so that is confirmed and I am sorry  

    Also I don't need to chat with you privately about your wagers or record. Nobody cares about the wagers you-I or anyone make that are not listed here...why?  Because those selections do not help anyone other than ourselves

    If your having a perfect run this week thats great...I'm happy for you.... just don't see what value it brings to a post or this forum.

    I think its great your making picks with insight...I wish more people would do that... just knock off the b.s.....its not that hard really....most of the members here seem to handle it just fine

     

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    First of all it took 4 days for you to post anything...not sure why it needed 4 days. Secondly...tabsportsbook? Come on man...I knew if you had something it would be some sportsbook that nobody outside of Australia uses.

    If the point of a forum is to help people...include lines that most people can get....do you understand the reasoning behind this? Or do I need to elaborate more on the subject?

    But based on what I saw it does say -7.5 .... so that is confirmed and I am sorry  

    Also I don't need to chat with you privately about your wagers or record. Nobody cares about the wagers you-I or anyone make that are not listed here...why?  Because those selections do not help anyone other than ourselves

    If your having a perfect run this week thats great...I'm happy for you.... just don't see what value it brings to a post or this forum.

    I think its great your making picks with insight...I wish more people would do that... just knock off the b.s.....its not that hard really....most of the members here seem to handle it just fine

     

     
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    T444: B.S? Not sure about that one but not going to pick you up on any of your reply...But if you want a valid reason for a 4 day response and as to why I posted the Miami line, that can be provide. I dont have authorisation to monitor lines with access to my specified sportsbook while on duty on international soil.

    To my knowledge that was the line in my original Sportbook which I am without privlege of access to. The rest of the lines were mirror to what I would of recieved when I'm U.S bound from my sportsbook of choice from U.S soil. There was one game out of sync which only bothered you. And my session was limited so there wasnt sufficient time to investigate the covers line movement with the documented information for one game. At present time, I dont monitor the lines and read into them, I cant. My environment allows me to see a line and choose the side with my knowledge of the game of who can cover. It's working a treat in the NBA.

    In all, please except my graditute for your response and honesty taken in the process.

    Thank you for the treaty to coexist.

    Bring on the critism, but let us prosper in the intellegence of information sharing, not bickering. So thank you for that much my hard lined troublesome user! Lets end it here..........

    As always good luck sparty

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    T444: B.S? Not sure about that one but not going to pick you up on any of your reply...But if you want a valid reason for a 4 day response and as to why I posted the Miami line, that can be provide. I dont have authorisation to monitor lines with access to my specified sportsbook while on duty on international soil.

    To my knowledge that was the line in my original Sportbook which I am without privlege of access to. The rest of the lines were mirror to what I would of recieved when I'm U.S bound from my sportsbook of choice from U.S soil. There was one game out of sync which only bothered you. And my session was limited so there wasnt sufficient time to investigate the covers line movement with the documented information for one game. At present time, I dont monitor the lines and read into them, I cant. My environment allows me to see a line and choose the side with my knowledge of the game of who can cover. It's working a treat in the NBA.

    In all, please except my graditute for your response and honesty taken in the process.

    Thank you for the treaty to coexist.

    Bring on the critism, but let us prosper in the intellegence of information sharing, not bickering. So thank you for that much my hard lined troublesome user! Lets end it here..........

    As always good luck sparty

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by sparty444]

    And you can post the link for the Miami line right here...because you were not getting -7.5 when the line was -9.5 to -10.5

     

    [/Quote]...sparty wtf............are you the covers he didnt post his play police?? lets gat real honest......i dont see you post plays rarely...same with me.....but at least i play contests where if people want to see picks...like many others do here on covers.they can go to VIEW SPACE and see what they are playing.......to you this site is designed for post your plays or get out and post them IN TIME......why???? so you can follow...same with the guy with the dog pic who ever he is......says im a political guy wjho comments but never posts.practice what you preach....my contests is ALL im accountable for on here as well as others and if i ....selcouth.whoever choses to comment for whatever whenever thats his opinion and hes entittled to it.thats why its a FORUM,,,no laws about what time you post and what you post about as long as in the longrun it helps others in someway...i dont know why i waste my time in the tennis forum...i used to post until you get the jackasses. my record is something like 185-153 on st post contests..anyone on here can go to anyones space if they choose to take the time to do it.and see what they are playing.......or you could try capping and playing contests yourself. im glad i only visit back here occasionally anymore because ...its like 3 people on here who post,everyone else doesnt want to get bashed................enjoy YOUR forum sparty
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    And you can post the link for the Miami line right here...because you were not getting -7.5 when the line was -9.5 to -10.5

     

    [/Quote]...sparty wtf............are you the covers he didnt post his play police?? lets gat real honest......i dont see you post plays rarely...same with me.....but at least i play contests where if people want to see picks...like many others do here on covers.they can go to VIEW SPACE and see what they are playing.......to you this site is designed for post your plays or get out and post them IN TIME......why???? so you can follow...same with the guy with the dog pic who ever he is......says im a political guy wjho comments but never posts.practice what you preach....my contests is ALL im accountable for on here as well as others and if i ....selcouth.whoever choses to comment for whatever whenever thats his opinion and hes entittled to it.thats why its a FORUM,,,no laws about what time you post and what you post about as long as in the longrun it helps others in someway...i dont know why i waste my time in the tennis forum...i used to post until you get the jackasses. my record is something like 185-153 on st post contests..anyone on here can go to anyones space if they choose to take the time to do it.and see what they are playing.......or you could try capping and playing contests yourself. im glad i only visit back here occasionally anymore because ...its like 3 people on here who post,everyone else doesnt want to get bashed................enjoy YOUR forum sparty
     
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    hey selcouth.....bet you didnt know belucci is a dirt baller....that means he plays mostly on clay!!!!!!

    your exams are very misleading

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    hey selcouth.....bet you didnt know belucci is a dirt baller....that means he plays mostly on clay!!!!!!

    your exams are very misleading

     
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    Paul,  So I have to post everyday to have a voice?

    I always love peoples logic. Just keep in mind honesty has to start somewhere and to some degree. And what point is it appropriate Paul? 

    We as a tennis forum could set a standard or code...we could hack out a set of rules to post by. Here are my thoughs:

    1. No past posting

    2. Records must be honest and accurate

    3. No burning money bags/ rubbing in losses to posters

    4. No posts praising ones self

    5. Come up with a units standard to use. Maybe basing picks on a 1-5 unit scale...this would avoid frauds who try to use 20-50-100 unit plays

    6. Provide insight with your selections.... my grandma can log on and just post picks randomly...explain why the result might occur ...why is this important? It creates free thinking bettors and creates more debate into how the event will unfold.

     

    Please feel free to give your thoughts Paul.... I wouldn't want to take time away from your contests though

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    Paul,  So I have to post everyday to have a voice?

    I always love peoples logic. Just keep in mind honesty has to start somewhere and to some degree. And what point is it appropriate Paul? 

    We as a tennis forum could set a standard or code...we could hack out a set of rules to post by. Here are my thoughs:

    1. No past posting

    2. Records must be honest and accurate

    3. No burning money bags/ rubbing in losses to posters

    4. No posts praising ones self

    5. Come up with a units standard to use. Maybe basing picks on a 1-5 unit scale...this would avoid frauds who try to use 20-50-100 unit plays

    6. Provide insight with your selections.... my grandma can log on and just post picks randomly...explain why the result might occur ...why is this important? It creates free thinking bettors and creates more debate into how the event will unfold.

     

    Please feel free to give your thoughts Paul.... I wouldn't want to take time away from your contests though

     
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    pretty good set of rules there sparty, let me give you my thoughts on all of them:

    1. Yes for winners but allow posters to come in late and vent about picks they made that are doing poorly. This forum is about debate but also a place for people to let off steam in writing and talk to others in the same boat. Since there is no respect gained by posting late on a loser I think this should obviously be allowed, as not all threads here have to be prematch analysis and sometimes you have no other place to vent. I agree that coming in posting about a big dog pick you made when they are up 5-1 or something of that nature is lame as hell and something no one should give others credit for. But if a person has late posted losers and late posts a winner or rather late joins a post telling how they made a winning play I am much more likely to believe them, because past posting losers gives some credibility in my mind.

    2. yes

    3. yes but some people are so negative here the mockery will never fully stop

    4. Agreed BUT I think if someone has been on a bad run and hit a nice one (with posted picks elsewhere)  they should be allowed to post about their relief, just like you would tell your friends when something good happened. There is a difference between this and posting some "I am hot beyond belief/I rule the world" type thread. as long as it is not asking for followers.

    5. sounds smart, but to me if someone wants to be a maniac so be it, people would catch on very quickly if someone kept increasing the unit size beyond belief and people are too smart to assume because someone put "100 units" on something that it is a lock of any sort. this is a good rule for a gambler but if they want to post 100unit bets I think they are idiots, but it is their money so I do not mind.

    6. YES (That is why I like reading the posts of anyone who puts thought into their picks win or lose)

    No one is following rules and they would be impossible to enforce but unless you became a Linesperson (boy would you ever fit in with them, lol, might be a bit too harsh sometimes though and lock too many threads) it won't happen. still, this is good advice and I was bored so there are my thoughts on your rules which I 90% agree with.
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    pretty good set of rules there sparty, let me give you my thoughts on all of them:

    1. Yes for winners but allow posters to come in late and vent about picks they made that are doing poorly. This forum is about debate but also a place for people to let off steam in writing and talk to others in the same boat. Since there is no respect gained by posting late on a loser I think this should obviously be allowed, as not all threads here have to be prematch analysis and sometimes you have no other place to vent. I agree that coming in posting about a big dog pick you made when they are up 5-1 or something of that nature is lame as hell and something no one should give others credit for. But if a person has late posted losers and late posts a winner or rather late joins a post telling how they made a winning play I am much more likely to believe them, because past posting losers gives some credibility in my mind.

    2. yes

    3. yes but some people are so negative here the mockery will never fully stop

    4. Agreed BUT I think if someone has been on a bad run and hit a nice one (with posted picks elsewhere)  they should be allowed to post about their relief, just like you would tell your friends when something good happened. There is a difference between this and posting some "I am hot beyond belief/I rule the world" type thread. as long as it is not asking for followers.

    5. sounds smart, but to me if someone wants to be a maniac so be it, people would catch on very quickly if someone kept increasing the unit size beyond belief and people are too smart to assume because someone put "100 units" on something that it is a lock of any sort. this is a good rule for a gambler but if they want to post 100unit bets I think they are idiots, but it is their money so I do not mind.

    6. YES (That is why I like reading the posts of anyone who puts thought into their picks win or lose)

    No one is following rules and they would be impossible to enforce but unless you became a Linesperson (boy would you ever fit in with them, lol, might be a bit too harsh sometimes though and lock too many threads) it won't happen. still, this is good advice and I was bored so there are my thoughts on your rules which I 90% agree with.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Paul,  So I have to post everyday to have a voice?

    I always love peoples logic. Just keep in mind honesty has to start somewhere and to some degree. And what point is it appropriate Paul? 

    We as a tennis forum could set a standard or code...we could hack out a set of rules to post by. Here are my thoughs:

    1. No past posting

    2. Records must be honest and accurate

    3. No burning money bags/ rubbing in losses to posters

    4. No posts praising ones self

    5. Come up with a units standard to use. Maybe basing picks on a 1-5 unit scale...this would avoid frauds who try to use 20-50-100 unit plays

    6. Provide insight with your selections.... my grandma can log on and just post picks randomly...explain why the result might occur ...why is this important? It creates free thinking bettors and creates more debate into how the event will unfold.

     

    Please feel free to give your thoughts Paul.... I wouldn't want to take time away from your contests though

    .....agree to alot sparty but you cant change what other people do.....i quit posting for reasons....lot of people knew me on here and i would post mainly in .other sports...........came in here and it seems a few select people want to take control.wasnt for me.if its for you thats cool.........i dont like to argue with people .i do like to hear other peoples thoughts whether they are right or wrong.....i do agree about winning not posting and rubbing the money bags in..........i would love to get along with you sparty...i do agree with you most of the time.....all im saying i guess is everyone does have that right to their opinions.thats why this is a free forum.im to a point where myself.im moving on to saving and stocks.still pick and play my contest picks...but ive had my experiences in here when you post.you get alot of bashers so whats the sense in posting.if you look at alot of people who do play contests on here.most dont post either,,,,,,im guessing the same thing happened to them..its sad because most of the people who DONT post anymore..are the ones doing the best in contests...go look for your self.ive just came to a conclusion that....if im posting to help someone maybe hit a nice play.why bash me or others.last year i had a 10 team baseball parlay.....to win alot of money.i posted it cause i was happy..........all i neede was one team that was up 10-1 to win it..................how many people out of all the posts do you think tryed to root me in????ill tell ya not many....would you want to post after that.now i will say if you look im well over 60 percent on my st plays.i pick everyday..if you want to follow the opportunity is there if you seek it.ive started posting on a free betting site more now than on here because most of the people there are positive....all i can tell you is best of luck sinceraly..and i do mean that......but all im asking is for the people who dont play the conrtests..why not??why not see how well you do.areas you need to improve in.on my middle picks i pick every game which i learned the hard way thats not what your supposed to do........the games i do play with real money are my streak survivor picks and my ultimate race picks...and i do agree with you..ive read your space.you should only pick out games that you feel pretty sure of and see possible line flaws on..and i agree oon the money mangement..bol sparty..hope you enjoyed the book,lol
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    Paul,  So I have to post everyday to have a voice?

    I always love peoples logic. Just keep in mind honesty has to start somewhere and to some degree. And what point is it appropriate Paul? 

    We as a tennis forum could set a standard or code...we could hack out a set of rules to post by. Here are my thoughs:

    1. No past posting

    2. Records must be honest and accurate

    3. No burning money bags/ rubbing in losses to posters

    4. No posts praising ones self

    5. Come up with a units standard to use. Maybe basing picks on a 1-5 unit scale...this would avoid frauds who try to use 20-50-100 unit plays

    6. Provide insight with your selections.... my grandma can log on and just post picks randomly...explain why the result might occur ...why is this important? It creates free thinking bettors and creates more debate into how the event will unfold.

     

    Please feel free to give your thoughts Paul.... I wouldn't want to take time away from your contests though

    .....agree to alot sparty but you cant change what other people do.....i quit posting for reasons....lot of people knew me on here and i would post mainly in .other sports...........came in here and it seems a few select people want to take control.wasnt for me.if its for you thats cool.........i dont like to argue with people .i do like to hear other peoples thoughts whether they are right or wrong.....i do agree about winning not posting and rubbing the money bags in..........i would love to get along with you sparty...i do agree with you most of the time.....all im saying i guess is everyone does have that right to their opinions.thats why this is a free forum.im to a point where myself.im moving on to saving and stocks.still pick and play my contest picks...but ive had my experiences in here when you post.you get alot of bashers so whats the sense in posting.if you look at alot of people who do play contests on here.most dont post either,,,,,,im guessing the same thing happened to them..its sad because most of the people who DONT post anymore..are the ones doing the best in contests...go look for your self.ive just came to a conclusion that....if im posting to help someone maybe hit a nice play.why bash me or others.last year i had a 10 team baseball parlay.....to win alot of money.i posted it cause i was happy..........all i neede was one team that was up 10-1 to win it..................how many people out of all the posts do you think tryed to root me in????ill tell ya not many....would you want to post after that.now i will say if you look im well over 60 percent on my st plays.i pick everyday..if you want to follow the opportunity is there if you seek it.ive started posting on a free betting site more now than on here because most of the people there are positive....all i can tell you is best of luck sinceraly..and i do mean that......but all im asking is for the people who dont play the conrtests..why not??why not see how well you do.areas you need to improve in.on my middle picks i pick every game which i learned the hard way thats not what your supposed to do........the games i do play with real money are my streak survivor picks and my ultimate race picks...and i do agree with you..ive read your space.you should only pick out games that you feel pretty sure of and see possible line flaws on..and i agree oon the money mangement..bol sparty..hope you enjoyed the book,lol
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