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    Western Union officially blocked me from sending deposit/withdrawls from Bookmaker

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    TheDrizzle77
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2014 - 7:35 PM ET #1

    Been sending through different cards, names, phone numbers for years and they have shut not just one of my accounts down, but all four of them.  MoneyGram blocked me years ago as well.

    I am STILL waiting for my Bookmaker prepaid card, otherwise I have no idea how to withdraw this money.  

    For deposits, Bookmaker doesn't allow me to send via debit card.

    My 8-year run with BMaker officially coming to an end.

    Any suggestions?  Can I do anything else to stay with them?
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    Been sending through different cards, names, phone numbers for years and they have shut not just one of my accounts down, but all four of them.  MoneyGram blocked me years ago as well.

    I am STILL waiting for my Bookmaker prepaid card, otherwise I have no idea how to withdraw this money.  

    For deposits, Bookmaker doesn't allow me to send via debit card.

    My 8-year run with BMaker officially coming to an end.

    Any suggestions?  Can I do anything else to stay with them?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2014 - 8:00 PM ET #2

    That blows.. I have been semi worried about getting banned. I am just curious on average how often you sent or received money through western union and the average amounts.. I always send and receive less than 700 dollars.

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    That blows.. I have been semi worried about getting banned. I am just curious on average how often you sent or received money through western union and the average amounts.. I always send and receive less than 700 dollars.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2014 - 11:04 PM ET #3

    i was banned last year. When you keep sending money to different people in costa rica, nicaragua, and the phillipines over the years it's not hard for them to peace it together. Just use the automated kiosk phones in the store type place and use a friends name. Never failed for me. If it gets declined I'll have friend pick it up for me and buy him a few beers and assure him it's not a big deal
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    i was banned last year. When you keep sending money to different people in costa rica, nicaragua, and the phillipines over the years it's not hard for them to peace it together. Just use the automated kiosk phones in the store type place and use a friends name. Never failed for me. If it gets declined I'll have friend pick it up for me and buy him a few beers and assure him it's not a big deal
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 12:15 AM ET #4

    And that falls on Bookmaker.  They have way too many getaways and that is easily what cost me.

    For the longest time I was using the same name being sent to the same country, Costa Rica.  Then all of a sudden the only getaway was in Nicaragua.  Recently they have only been letting me use Peru.  And that was the red flag for WU.

    I was pulling out the max at $1500.00 and I did it twice in two weeks which also did not help, although it was from the same sender and country.

    I usually deposit just $500 at a time.  

    I'll be trying your way tomorrow, Messier.  Can't imagine it getting turned down as the person's name has never done this.  I will owe him a beer regardless though. 
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    And that falls on Bookmaker.  They have way too many getaways and that is easily what cost me.

    For the longest time I was using the same name being sent to the same country, Costa Rica.  Then all of a sudden the only getaway was in Nicaragua.  Recently they have only been letting me use Peru.  And that was the red flag for WU.

    I was pulling out the max at $1500.00 and I did it twice in two weeks which also did not help, although it was from the same sender and country.

    I usually deposit just $500 at a time.  

    I'll be trying your way tomorrow, Messier.  Can't imagine it getting turned down as the person's name has never done this.  I will owe him a beer regardless though. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 12:22 AM ET #5

    you need to use your friends actual phone number. They never call it anyway so don't worry about that. If there is a problem they might make you call them from the phone you have on file. I've gotten away with arguing I sent the money from a phone in a store at a kiosk because my phone was broken and it worked though
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    you need to use your friends actual phone number. They never call it anyway so don't worry about that. If there is a problem they might make you call them from the phone you have on file. I've gotten away with arguing I sent the money from a phone in a store at a kiosk because my phone was broken and it worked though
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 2:31 AM ET #6

    Won't they send you a check?
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    Won't they send you a check?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 11:41 AM ET #7

    I got blocked from money gram a few years ago. I only use western to deposit now thanks to 5dimes and my american express serve for my payouts. 
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    I got blocked from money gram a few years ago. I only use western to deposit now thanks to 5dimes and my american express serve for my payouts. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 11:56 AM ET #8

    I was banned from Western Union about 4 months ago. Now I go to the drugstore and use the red money gram phone. what a degenerate shmuck. 
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    I was banned from Western Union about 4 months ago. Now I go to the drugstore and use the red money gram phone. what a degenerate shmuck. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 3:02 PM ET #9

    How infuriating is it to be quizzed by a Walmart illiterate "Why are you sending Juan in CostaRica $2000.00 ?"
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    How infuriating is it to be quizzed by a Walmart illiterate "Why are you sending Juan in CostaRica $2000.00 ?"
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 5:15 PM ET #10

    As CEO of one of these wire transfer places, I would never dream of pulling the rug from people like us. For Christ sake man!!!! They're raking it in with fees!!!!

    Same goes for mail carrier services. If I'm in California and wish to send my friend in Texas some marijuana, and I'm willing to pay $25 next day air delivery. Why on earth would I intercept that package and confiscate the goods. Well. unless of course....

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    As CEO of one of these wire transfer places, I would never dream of pulling the rug from people like us. For Christ sake man!!!! They're raking it in with fees!!!!

    Same goes for mail carrier services. If I'm in California and wish to send my friend in Texas some marijuana, and I'm willing to pay $25 next day air delivery. Why on earth would I intercept that package and confiscate the goods. Well. unless of course....

     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 5:26 PM ET #11

    ^You would if the feds put pressure on your company to help them stop internet gambling.  I guess this is the only reason WU and MG do this.
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    ^You would if the feds put pressure on your company to help them stop internet gambling.  I guess this is the only reason WU and MG do this.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 6:29 PM ET #12

    This is ridiculous.  I opened an account at YouWager and it said I had to call to make my initial deposit for verification.

    They will not allow me to deposit via credit/debit.  I can only use WU or MG.  Looks like, in the blink of an eye, my offshore gambling career has ended.  

    I am NOT going to keep using different names until I run out of friends via WU.  It's too much of a hassle, and at that point, I might as well fly my a** to Vegas and put bets in at the counter.


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    This is ridiculous.  I opened an account at YouWager and it said I had to call to make my initial deposit for verification.

    They will not allow me to deposit via credit/debit.  I can only use WU or MG.  Looks like, in the blink of an eye, my offshore gambling career has ended.  

    I am NOT going to keep using different names until I run out of friends via WU.  It's too much of a hassle, and at that point, I might as well fly my a** to Vegas and put bets in at the counter.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 7:48 PM ET #13

    wanted to ask you if you have tried to use a certain debit card as a way to deposit in the past, added you as a friend for private messages back and forth
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    wanted to ask you if you have tried to use a certain debit card as a way to deposit in the past, added you as a friend for private messages back and forth
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2014 - 8:34 PM ET #14

    I used to use MoneyGram back in the day. One day the clerk was puzzled because the system wouldn't let them. I asked a friend to do it for me instead, and coincidently he got declined too.

    Western Union has always worked for me, but the fees are higher. It's harder to find locations these days because the Wal Marts are putting the local groceries out of business.

    My friend just loads onto those wal mart or CVS prepaids and deposits into 5 dimes. He never has any trouble, and I think it only costs like $3-6 per reload. Cheaper than MG and WU.

    I would recommend to never put fake information or fake phone numbers. Once in a while I'd have an issue. Like the book would give me the wrong name, misspell it, or I sent too many to a particular country in a short period of time.

    Then you gotta get it refunded and call them up and all that.

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    I used to use MoneyGram back in the day. One day the clerk was puzzled because the system wouldn't let them. I asked a friend to do it for me instead, and coincidently he got declined too.

    Western Union has always worked for me, but the fees are higher. It's harder to find locations these days because the Wal Marts are putting the local groceries out of business.

    My friend just loads onto those wal mart or CVS prepaids and deposits into 5 dimes. He never has any trouble, and I think it only costs like $3-6 per reload. Cheaper than MG and WU.

    I would recommend to never put fake information or fake phone numbers. Once in a while I'd have an issue. Like the book would give me the wrong name, misspell it, or I sent too many to a particular country in a short period of time.

    Then you gotta get it refunded and call them up and all that.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2014 - 12:49 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    you need to use your friends actual phone number. They never call it anyway so don't worry about that. If there is a problem they might make you call them from the phone you have on file. I've gotten away with arguing I sent the money from a phone in a store at a kiosk because my phone was broken and it worked though

    They do text........to let you know the money has been picked up.

    What do you tell your "buddy" then? 

    Western Union sends a text  that..... Rodriguez Gomez Gomez Rodriquez picked up the transfer. 

    I know I receive a "confirmation" text. I cant be the only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    you need to use your friends actual phone number. They never call it anyway so don't worry about that. If there is a problem they might make you call them from the phone you have on file. I've gotten away with arguing I sent the money from a phone in a store at a kiosk because my phone was broken and it worked though

    They do text........to let you know the money has been picked up.

    What do you tell your "buddy" then? 

    Western Union sends a text  that..... Rodriguez Gomez Gomez Rodriquez picked up the transfer. 

    I know I receive a "confirmation" text. I cant be the only one.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2014 - 1:12 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    I was banned from Western Union about 4 months ago. Now I go to the drugstore and use the red money gram phone. what a degenerate shmuck. 



    I always use the red mg phone.  No hassles.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    I was banned from Western Union about 4 months ago. Now I go to the drugstore and use the red money gram phone. what a degenerate shmuck. 



    I always use the red mg phone.  No hassles.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2014 - 1:21 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by VinnyCooch:


    They do text........to let you know the money has been picked up.

    What do you tell your "buddy" then? 

    Western Union sends a text  that..... Rodriguez Gomez Gomez Rodriquez picked up the transfer. 

    I know I receive a "confirmation" text. I cant be the only one.

    ive sent 100's and never gotten a text
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnyCooch:


    They do text........to let you know the money has been picked up.

    What do you tell your "buddy" then? 

    Western Union sends a text  that..... Rodriguez Gomez Gomez Rodriquez picked up the transfer. 

    I know I receive a "confirmation" text. I cant be the only one.

    ive sent 100's and never gotten a text
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2014 - 2:30 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:




    I always use the red mg phone.  No hassles.  

    All the emplyees know me and here the country "Nicaragua."

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:




    I always use the red mg phone.  No hassles.  

    All the emplyees know me and here the country "Nicaragua."

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2014 - 3:23 AM ET #19

    The rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

    They refunded the $1500.00 into my account this morning, and then out of nowhere, it was taken back again.  No idea if this is my bank's doing or WU, but I am out that money for the fourth straight day right now.

    Absolutely ridiculous.

    WHY WON'T ANY OF THESE BOOKS JUST TAKE MY DAMN DEBIT CARD!?!?!?!!?  
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    The rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

    They refunded the $1500.00 into my account this morning, and then out of nowhere, it was taken back again.  No idea if this is my bank's doing or WU, but I am out that money for the fourth straight day right now.

    Absolutely ridiculous.

    WHY WON'T ANY OF THESE BOOKS JUST TAKE MY DAMN DEBIT CARD!?!?!?!!?  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2014 - 4:05 PM ET #20

    Feds are going after them
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2014 - 10:38 PM ET #21

    Got blocked today by Western Union as well. First time that has happened. I've been playing with YouWager for 10 years. I went to Betus.com. Sent money Western Union, this time someone called me from WU and said this has been blocked. Go to store and they refund your money back. I guess I'm going to a SportsBar to find a bookie like back in the day
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    Got blocked today by Western Union as well. First time that has happened. I've been playing with YouWager for 10 years. I went to Betus.com. Sent money Western Union, this time someone called me from WU and said this has been blocked. Go to store and they refund your money back. I guess I'm going to a SportsBar to find a bookie like back in the day
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2014 - 10:43 PM ET #22

    Must be a serious crackdown then.  Nabbing all US transactions to central america. 
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2014 - 11:34 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:

    Must be a serious crackdown then.  Nabbing all US transactions to central america. 
    Yep, something is definitely going on. Like I said, it has worked for 10 years. Western Union even called me today to inform me they blocked it. I got my money back from WU no problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:

    Must be a serious crackdown then.  Nabbing all US transactions to central america. 
    Yep, something is definitely going on. Like I said, it has worked for 10 years. Western Union even called me today to inform me they blocked it. I got my money back from WU no problem
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2014 - 9:56 PM ET #24

    yep just got blacklisted today. been using western union for years. well time to get a visa card
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2014 - 10:31 PM ET #25

    just make up a new name I havent had any issues sending to nicaragua or central america last few weeks
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