He's basically unbeatable at the French. I truly believe Joker will never beat the Spaniard regardless of how many times they meet. Rafa just grits it out no matter the situation in the match. Sure Joker can blame the loss today on his health, but how about last year in the Semis?
Yes his best surface is on clay, but overall I'm still calling him the best tennis player of our lifetime (for those in my age group). If the rivalry with Fed was closer, maybe I'd lean more toward the Swiss Maestro...but it's not. Nadal is amazing.
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He owns the h2h over Fed by 2-to-1.
He's basically unbeatable at the French. I truly believe Joker will never beat the Spaniard regardless of how many times they meet. Rafa just grits it out no matter the situation in the match. Sure Joker can blame the loss today on his health, but how about last year in the Semis?
Yes his best surface is on clay, but overall I'm still calling him the best tennis player of our lifetime (for those in my age group). If the rivalry with Fed was closer, maybe I'd lean more toward the Swiss Maestro...but it's not. Nadal is amazing.
Tainted because of PED's. but no doubt a beast. But hard for me to put him over fed just because he feasts at this one tourny. Fed won two diff majors at least 5 times
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Tainted because of PED's. but no doubt a beast. But hard for me to put him over fed just because he feasts at this one tourny. Fed won two diff majors at least 5 times
Provide tangible evidence of PED use or kindly STFU. Fed has 9 wins on concrete, which while it's across two majors isn't that different than Nadal's FO wins. In fact, given the length of the clay court season, there easily could and perhaps should be two majors on clay. So arguably Fed is lucky in the makeup of the majors.
It's hard to be the GOAT when you (Feddy) retire with losing records against the three multiple major winners of your era (N,D,M). Nadal also has the highest winning percentage ever and is top 10 on all surfaces. He's won more Masters 1000 events than anyone else and his streak of years winning a major is the longest ever.
And 23-10 is F'n ownage.
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Provide tangible evidence of PED use or kindly STFU. Fed has 9 wins on concrete, which while it's across two majors isn't that different than Nadal's FO wins. In fact, given the length of the clay court season, there easily could and perhaps should be two majors on clay. So arguably Fed is lucky in the makeup of the majors.
It's hard to be the GOAT when you (Feddy) retire with losing records against the three multiple major winners of your era (N,D,M). Nadal also has the highest winning percentage ever and is top 10 on all surfaces. He's won more Masters 1000 events than anyone else and his streak of years winning a major is the longest ever.
He is the best who has ever stepped on a tennis court..Fed cant be compared he is miles behind imo - just was lucky to win a lot of GS without any real competition. Rafa has beaten him in Wimby thats enough.. Djokovic is the only one who deserves to be mentionned in the same sentence with Rafa but still no match for Nadal.
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He is the best who has ever stepped on a tennis court..Fed cant be compared he is miles behind imo - just was lucky to win a lot of GS without any real competition. Rafa has beaten him in Wimby thats enough.. Djokovic is the only one who deserves to be mentionned in the same sentence with Rafa but still no match for Nadal.
Tainted because of PED's. but no doubt a beast. But hard for me to put him over fed just because he feasts at this one tourny. Fed won two diff majors at least 5 times
You should stick to kissing Kobe's a-s, before you talk about tennis.
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Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Tainted because of PED's. but no doubt a beast. But hard for me to put him over fed just because he feasts at this one tourny. Fed won two diff majors at least 5 times
You should stick to kissing Kobe's a-s, before you talk about tennis.
He is the best who has ever stepped on a tennis court..Fed cant be compared he is miles behind imo - just was lucky to win a lot of GS without any real competition. Rafa has beaten him in Wimby thats enough.. Djokovic is the only one who deserves to be mentionned in the same sentence with Rafa but still no match for Nadal.
Fed's career is miles behind Rafa's???? What an idiotic statement.
Djokovic won't come close to touching 17 slams. He'll be lucky to win 13 slams before he's 30. He's not winning anything over 30.
You should join Gavin Nick as another noobie idiot of the forum.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mucak30:
He is the best who has ever stepped on a tennis court..Fed cant be compared he is miles behind imo - just was lucky to win a lot of GS without any real competition. Rafa has beaten him in Wimby thats enough.. Djokovic is the only one who deserves to be mentionned in the same sentence with Rafa but still no match for Nadal.
Fed's career is miles behind Rafa's???? What an idiotic statement.
Djokovic won't come close to touching 17 slams. He'll be lucky to win 13 slams before he's 30. He's not winning anything over 30.
You should join Gavin Nick as another noobie idiot of the forum.
Tainted because of PED's. but no doubt a beast. But hard for me to put him over fed just because he feasts at this one tourny. Fed won two diff majors at least 5 times
And you know this how??
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Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Tainted because of PED's. but no doubt a beast. But hard for me to put him over fed just because he feasts at this one tourny. Fed won two diff majors at least 5 times
More pertinent question is: Is Nadal the best modern day athlete? 3 most intimidating athletes of the last decade are Rafa, LeBron, and Cain Velasquez in any order of your liking.
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More pertinent question is: Is Nadal the best modern day athlete? 3 most intimidating athletes of the last decade are Rafa, LeBron, and Cain Velasquez in any order of your liking.
Mucak did u really just say joker is only one who comes close to rafa??? So joker with what6 majors is better than fed with 17? From what ive learned in sports is that when someone is linked to peds its usually is true. I find it hard to believe rafa is not juicing eapecially when he has been rumored numerous times. Same goes for lebron and even kobe. Kobe goin to germany and what not an lebron linked to that biogenesis clinic. The testing in nba and tennis are a joke and if people dont think some of these guys are juicing then u must believe there r no dishonest people in this world. Just a quick story a current nba player that i played poker with for few years is 100% a recreational drug user that i seen first hand. But guess what? He never popped positive on any tests. I have a funny feeling if silva passes this hgh testing u might see a difference in lebrons game. There has to b some usage of hgh in nba for silva to try and push testing for it. He has clearly gotten word from somewhere that players are using it
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Mucak did u really just say joker is only one who comes close to rafa??? So joker with what6 majors is better than fed with 17? From what ive learned in sports is that when someone is linked to peds its usually is true. I find it hard to believe rafa is not juicing eapecially when he has been rumored numerous times. Same goes for lebron and even kobe. Kobe goin to germany and what not an lebron linked to that biogenesis clinic. The testing in nba and tennis are a joke and if people dont think some of these guys are juicing then u must believe there r no dishonest people in this world. Just a quick story a current nba player that i played poker with for few years is 100% a recreational drug user that i seen first hand. But guess what? He never popped positive on any tests. I have a funny feeling if silva passes this hgh testing u might see a difference in lebrons game. There has to b some usage of hgh in nba for silva to try and push testing for it. He has clearly gotten word from somewhere that players are using it
Mucak did u really just say joker is only one who comes close to rafa??? So joker with what6 majors is better than fed with 17? From what ive learned in sports is that when someone is linked to peds its usually is true. I find it hard to believe rafa is not juicing eapecially when he has been rumored numerous times. Same goes for lebron and even kobe. Kobe goin to germany and what not an lebron linked to that biogenesis clinic. The testing in nba and tennis are a joke and if people dont think some of these guys are juicing then u must believe there r no dishonest people in this world. Just a quick story a current nba player that i played poker with for few years is 100% a recreational drug user that i seen first hand. But guess what? He never popped positive on any tests. I have a funny feeling if silva passes this hgh testing u might see a difference in lebrons game. There has to b some usage of hgh in nba for silva to try and push testing for it. He has clearly gotten word from somewhere that players are using it
Silva? He's a person, not a Brazilian, lol
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Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:
Mucak did u really just say joker is only one who comes close to rafa??? So joker with what6 majors is better than fed with 17? From what ive learned in sports is that when someone is linked to peds its usually is true. I find it hard to believe rafa is not juicing eapecially when he has been rumored numerous times. Same goes for lebron and even kobe. Kobe goin to germany and what not an lebron linked to that biogenesis clinic. The testing in nba and tennis are a joke and if people dont think some of these guys are juicing then u must believe there r no dishonest people in this world. Just a quick story a current nba player that i played poker with for few years is 100% a recreational drug user that i seen first hand. But guess what? He never popped positive on any tests. I have a funny feeling if silva passes this hgh testing u might see a difference in lebrons game. There has to b some usage of hgh in nba for silva to try and push testing for it. He has clearly gotten word from somewhere that players are using it
Is Lebron better than MJ? Tough question. Nadal is great in his own rights, and only time will tell if he is regarded as the G.O.A.T
Other than Wilander he is the only man to win atleast 2 GS on each surface. Add his Masters 1000 record and his h2h with Feds, you have a few good points for an argument that he is.
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Is Lebron better than MJ? Tough question. Nadal is great in his own rights, and only time will tell if he is regarded as the G.O.A.T
Other than Wilander he is the only man to win atleast 2 GS on each surface. Add his Masters 1000 record and his h2h with Feds, you have a few good points for an argument that he is.
Nadal will end up the best of all time 14 majors already. He will Surely surpass Fed's 17. And not only that he won all these majors in the Fed-Djokovic era. Making it even more amazing.
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Nadal will end up the best of all time 14 majors already. He will Surely surpass Fed's 17. And not only that he won all these majors in the Fed-Djokovic era. Making it even more amazing.
Mats W won zip at Wimby making your statement incorrect.
Although he never won the singles title at Wimbledon, Wilander twice won the Australian Open when that tournament was still played on grass courts. I accept your apology
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Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:
Mats W won zip at Wimby making your statement incorrect.
Although he never won the singles title at Wimbledon, Wilander twice won the Australian Open when that tournament was still played on grass courts. I accept your apology
Despite Nadal having the hd to hd, Federer has the better overall results on everything else except clay.
Federer has a much better resume on outdoor hard, indoor hard and grass and it's not like Fed sucks on clay either as he's been #2 on the surface forever.
Fed is the more consistent player on all surfaces and Grand Slams. No one will ever touch Federer's Semis record.
Throw in a Slam Indoors and Fed has 5 more GS's. There's a reason Federer has won the Year ending Indoor tourney 10 times.
I feel like Outdoor hard court is the most neutral court going as almost everyone can play on it. Fed has won 5 of each Slam, while Nadal has 3.
I don't think you can be considered the GOAT with only 3 slams on the most neutral and most played surface.
I do not particularly like Jordan, but he's the best in my opinion. He has done more with the least as I see it. Throw in the fact Jordan had very little to no physical advantage and it's a no brainer for me.
Wilt, Shaq, Russell, Magic, Lebron were/are all physically dominant at their position.
Just my opinion and the way I see it.
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Federer and Jordan for me.
Despite Nadal having the hd to hd, Federer has the better overall results on everything else except clay.
Federer has a much better resume on outdoor hard, indoor hard and grass and it's not like Fed sucks on clay either as he's been #2 on the surface forever.
Fed is the more consistent player on all surfaces and Grand Slams. No one will ever touch Federer's Semis record.
Throw in a Slam Indoors and Fed has 5 more GS's. There's a reason Federer has won the Year ending Indoor tourney 10 times.
I feel like Outdoor hard court is the most neutral court going as almost everyone can play on it. Fed has won 5 of each Slam, while Nadal has 3.
I don't think you can be considered the GOAT with only 3 slams on the most neutral and most played surface.
I do not particularly like Jordan, but he's the best in my opinion. He has done more with the least as I see it. Throw in the fact Jordan had very little to no physical advantage and it's a no brainer for me.
Wilt, Shaq, Russell, Magic, Lebron were/are all physically dominant at their position.
Nadal will end up the best of all time 14 majors already. He will Surely surpass Fed's 17. And not only that he won all these majors in the Fed-Djokovic era. Making it even more amazing.
He won them all in the Federer era, but definitely not in the djokovic era.
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Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:
Nadal will end up the best of all time 14 majors already. He will Surely surpass Fed's 17. And not only that he won all these majors in the Fed-Djokovic era. Making it even more amazing.
He won them all in the Federer era, but definitely not in the djokovic era.
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