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    MLB Alternate Runline Question?

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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 6:08 AM ET #1

    This is my 2nd year of betting so forgive me if these are stupid questions about runlines but I never really bet them last year. I'm trying to develop a system for baseball using the runline. It's coming along good and I've backtracked 2005-2007 the past 3 days and each year had winning results. I'm just trying to determine to the nearest dollar what my results would have been. I switched from Bodog to BetJamaica this year, I didn't see anywhere on the site that BetJamaica uses runlines, but I assume they do? I simply got fed up with Bodog's Christmas colored boxes and late lines. Plus there's higher limits at BetJamaica. Anyways:

    1. Is the 1.5 runline ALWAYS given to the away team or is it given to the underdog?

    2. How do you figure the odds of the runline? For example if the favorite/home team is -160, how would you figure out the away/underdog's 1.5 runline is?

    3. Does matchbook.com use the alternative runline?
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    This is my 2nd year of betting so forgive me if these are stupid questions about runlines but I never really bet them last year. I'm trying to develop a system for baseball using the runline. It's coming along good and I've backtracked 2005-2007 the past 3 days and each year had winning results. I'm just trying to determine to the nearest dollar what my results would have been. I switched from Bodog to BetJamaica this year, I didn't see anywhere on the site that BetJamaica uses runlines, but I assume they do? I simply got fed up with Bodog's Christmas colored boxes and late lines. Plus there's higher limits at BetJamaica. Anyways:

    1. Is the 1.5 runline ALWAYS given to the away team or is it given to the underdog?

    2. How do you figure the odds of the runline? For example if the favorite/home team is -160, how would you figure out the away/underdog's 1.5 runline is?

    3. Does matchbook.com use the alternative runline?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 1:48 PM ET #2

    Care to share how your picks on the run line are determined?

    As for your first question, the underdog is always the +1.5, while the favorite is always -1.5. So for example the favorite may be -180 moneyline, but -1.5 (+120) run line or something close to that.

    Does that make sense?
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    Care to share how your picks on the run line are determined?

    As for your first question, the underdog is always the +1.5, while the favorite is always -1.5. So for example the favorite may be -180 moneyline, but -1.5 (+120) run line or something close to that.

    Does that make sense?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 4:30 PM ET #3

    It would be a 3-game chase. Win 1 game and you're done with the 3 games and consider it a win. When I set the specific criteria I'll let you know. I'm debating between 2 things and I'm trying to backtrack what is the more profitable situation. The 1 thing I want to do is strictly take away teams, whether they are given 1.5 or 2.5 runs.
     
    I've tried 3-4 game chases with the home team winning outright but you lose so much on the juice so I'm trying to see how much you would lose on the juice if you took a road team and took 1.5 runs.
     
    In your example of -180 for the favorite assuming they were the home team, if I took the away team and I'm getting 1.5 runs how would you figure out the odds? 1 guy on sbrforums said to on average it would be .90 so figuring the away team for the moneyline is at +170, getting 1.5 runs would put them at or around -120?
     
     
     
     
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    It would be a 3-game chase. Win 1 game and you're done with the 3 games and consider it a win. When I set the specific criteria I'll let you know. I'm debating between 2 things and I'm trying to backtrack what is the more profitable situation. The 1 thing I want to do is strictly take away teams, whether they are given 1.5 or 2.5 runs.
     
    I've tried 3-4 game chases with the home team winning outright but you lose so much on the juice so I'm trying to see how much you would lose on the juice if you took a road team and took 1.5 runs.
     
    In your example of -180 for the favorite assuming they were the home team, if I took the away team and I'm getting 1.5 runs how would you figure out the odds? 1 guy on sbrforums said to on average it would be .90 so figuring the away team for the moneyline is at +170, getting 1.5 runs would put them at or around -120?
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 8:43 PM ET #4

    its very similar to hockey,  swing the money around the other way a total of about 325 dollars so -180 would now be a dog of +145.
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    its very similar to hockey,  swing the money around the other way a total of about 325 dollars so -180 would now be a dog of +145.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 8:45 PM ET #5

    your gonna want to avoid playing a home team laying 1 1/2 runs. for obvious reasons. { extra innings}
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    your gonna want to avoid playing a home team laying 1 1/2 runs. for obvious reasons. { extra innings}
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 9:56 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by rudie:

    its very similar to hockey,  swing the money around the other way a total of about 325 dollars so -180 would now be a dog of +145.

    Just making sure I'm doing this right. So the +170 underdog swinging $325 would be -155 getting +1.5 runs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudie:

    its very similar to hockey,  swing the money around the other way a total of about 325 dollars so -180 would now be a dog of +145.

    Just making sure I'm doing this right. So the +170 underdog swinging $325 would be -155 getting +1.5 runs?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2008 - 11:54 PM ET #7

    Also, Bodog had an option for +2.5 runs for the favorite. Does anyone know if BetJamaica has that option?
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    Also, Bodog had an option for +2.5 runs for the favorite. Does anyone know if BetJamaica has that option?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2008 - 5:46 PM ET #8

    that is correct , acutally its more of a swing of 340 to 360, not 325.
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    that is correct , acutally its more of a swing of 340 to 360, not 325.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2008 - 4:16 PM ET #9

    kritz, if you are looking for the most flexibility for RL's, then you should consider 5dimes.  Check this out.
     
    Pittsburgh Pirates at Atlanta Braves
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L +1 1/2 -155      
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L -1 1/2 +135      
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L +2 1/2 -255               
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L -2 1/2 +215             
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L -1 1/2 +195              
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L +1 1/2 -235              
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L -2 1/2 +320               
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L +2 1/2 -390
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    kritz, if you are looking for the most flexibility for RL's, then you should consider 5dimes.  Check this out.
     
    Pittsburgh Pirates at Atlanta Braves
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L +1 1/2 -155      
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L -1 1/2 +135      
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L +2 1/2 -255               
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L -2 1/2 +215             
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L -1 1/2 +195              
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L +1 1/2 -235              
    Thu 4/3 961  Pittsburgh Pirates
    Z Duke -L -2 1/2 +320               
    7:10PM (EST)  962 Atlanta Braves
    M Hampton -L +2 1/2 -390
     
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    Wow, didn't know 5dimes offered that.
     
    I have some $$ in BetJM right now and I'm going to use them for now even though I don't think I'll be getting the best available lines. The only other place I have money in right now is Bodog. Don't have the extra cash to deposit elsewhere right now.
     
    Anyways I'm going to post my plays in this thread and see how they do. It's a 3-game chase system, 4-games if the series goes 4 games. If the team is the underdog take the 1.5 runline. If the team is the favorite, take the moneyline.
     
    Anyways the plays I'm doing for tomorrow:
    -200. Pirates +1.5 over Marlins. Betting 15 to win 7.50.
    -165. Nationals +1.5 over Cardinals. Betting 25 to win 15.15.
     
    As of April 3.
    Individual Record: 0-0
    Series Record: 0-0
    Winnings: $0
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    Wow, didn't know 5dimes offered that.
     
    I have some $$ in BetJM right now and I'm going to use them for now even though I don't think I'll be getting the best available lines. The only other place I have money in right now is Bodog. Don't have the extra cash to deposit elsewhere right now.
     
    Anyways I'm going to post my plays in this thread and see how they do. It's a 3-game chase system, 4-games if the series goes 4 games. If the team is the underdog take the 1.5 runline. If the team is the favorite, take the moneyline.
     
    Anyways the plays I'm doing for tomorrow:
    -200. Pirates +1.5 over Marlins. Betting 15 to win 7.50.
    -165. Nationals +1.5 over Cardinals. Betting 25 to win 15.15.
     
    As of April 3.
    Individual Record: 0-0
    Series Record: 0-0
    Winnings: $0
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 2:02 AM ET #11

    Change of plans, gonna post my plays in my space, that way I don't clog up the posts in this forum. Glad I got the 1.5 runs because both Pittsburgh and Washington lost by 1.
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    Change of plans, gonna post my plays in my space, that way I don't clog up the posts in this forum. Glad I got the 1.5 runs because both Pittsburgh and Washington lost by 1.
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