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    Detecting Unpredictability using Standard Deviation (NHL)

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    Tomspeople
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 7:30 PM ET #1

    This is something that I randomly thought of today while trying to help a friend understand standard deviation for her stats class.

    The stats I incorporated into the formula were GF/G, GA/G, 5-5FA, PP%, PK%, S/G, SA/G, FO%
    I use the formula by the league ranking of each stat for each team.

    We all know that the higher the standard deviation is, the more unpredictable the game should be theoretically.

    Well using this information, I have came up with two theories that I wish to test and track in this thread.
    1) In a game with high unpredictability, you should bet the dog.
    2) In a game with high unpredictability, the game might be more likely to go to OT.

    I'll be betting (not real money yet) on any game that has a 15 or higher Standard Deviation combined between the two teams.

    Nov. 4th
    NYI/NYR (SD = 18.41)
    NYI +270
    OT +400

    Nas/Van (SD = 15.83)
    Nas +139
    OT +320

    Ana/LA (SD = 18.21)
    LA +132
    OT +320

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    This is something that I randomly thought of today while trying to help a friend understand standard deviation for her stats class.

    The stats I incorporated into the formula were GF/G, GA/G, 5-5FA, PP%, PK%, S/G, SA/G, FO%
    I use the formula by the league ranking of each stat for each team.

    We all know that the higher the standard deviation is, the more unpredictable the game should be theoretically.

    Well using this information, I have came up with two theories that I wish to test and track in this thread.
    1) In a game with high unpredictability, you should bet the dog.
    2) In a game with high unpredictability, the game might be more likely to go to OT.

    I'll be betting (not real money yet) on any game that has a 15 or higher Standard Deviation combined between the two teams.

    Nov. 4th
    NYI/NYR (SD = 18.41)
    NYI +270
    OT +400

    Nas/Van (SD = 15.83)
    Nas +139
    OT +320

    Ana/LA (SD = 18.21)
    LA +132
    OT +320

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 7:42 PM ET #2

    Very interesting and very creative....
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    Very interesting and very creative....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 10:41 PM ET #3

    TP you are always thinking... I will be interested on how this plays out. 
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    TP you are always thinking... I will be interested on how this plays out. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 9:04 AM ET #4

    1) 1-2 +0.70u
    2) 1-2 +1.2u

    I'll post any games for today soon
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    1) 1-2 +0.70u
    2) 1-2 +1.2u

    I'll post any games for today soon
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 11:25 AM ET #5

    I'm gonna split the results by SD (A = 15-15.99, B = 16-16.99 etc)

    A
    1) 0-1 -1.00u
    2) 0-1 -1.00u

    D
    1) 1-1 +1.70u
    2) 1-1 +2.20u


    Nov 5th
    TB/NJ (SD = 21.29 [G])
    Odd not out yet.

    Stl/Ana (SD = 15.48 [A])
    Stl +161
    OT +350
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    I'm gonna split the results by SD (A = 15-15.99, B = 16-16.99 etc)

    A
    1) 0-1 -1.00u
    2) 0-1 -1.00u

    D
    1) 1-1 +1.70u
    2) 1-1 +2.20u


    Nov 5th
    TB/NJ (SD = 21.29 [G])
    Odd not out yet.

    Stl/Ana (SD = 15.48 [A])
    Stl +161
    OT +350
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 6:58 PM ET #6

    Toms...I sent you an e-mail last week...did you see it?
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    Toms...I sent you an e-mail last week...did you see it?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 7:04 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

    Toms...I sent you an e-mail last week...did you see it?
    I must have missed it, I'll check now and see and email you back.

    I'll get todays games up soon

    A
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 1-1 +1.70u
    2) 1-1 +2.20u

    G

    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 1-0 +3.2u
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    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

    Toms...I sent you an e-mail last week...did you see it?
    I must have missed it, I'll check now and see and email you back.

    I'll get todays games up soon

    A
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 1-1 +1.70u
    2) 1-1 +2.20u

    G

    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 1-0 +3.2u
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 10:19 PM ET #8

    I know it's a bit late but I'll post them anyway for tracking purposes.

    Nov 6th

    Fla/LA (SD = 19.23 [E])
    Fla +118
    OT +300

    Min/Col (SD = 18.38 [D])
    Min +106
    OT +300

    NYI/Atl (SD = 15.08 [A])
    NYI +130
    OT +325

    Phi/Ott (SD = 18.20 [D])
    Phi +125
    OT +300

    Stl/Sj (SD = 15.65 [A])
    Stl +255
    OT +350

    TB/NYR (SD = 21.51 [G])
    TB +172
    OT +300

    Tor/Bos (SD = 17.20 [C])
    Tor +155
    OT +320

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    I know it's a bit late but I'll post them anyway for tracking purposes.

    Nov 6th

    Fla/LA (SD = 19.23 [E])
    Fla +118
    OT +300

    Min/Col (SD = 18.38 [D])
    Min +106
    OT +300

    NYI/Atl (SD = 15.08 [A])
    NYI +130
    OT +325

    Phi/Ott (SD = 18.20 [D])
    Phi +125
    OT +300

    Stl/Sj (SD = 15.65 [A])
    Stl +255
    OT +350

    TB/NYR (SD = 21.51 [G])
    TB +172
    OT +300

    Tor/Bos (SD = 17.20 [C])
    Tor +155
    OT +320

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 12:58 PM ET #9

    A
    1) 0-4 -4.0u
    2) 1-3 +0.5u

    C
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    D
    1) 2-2 +1.76u
    2) 1-3 +0.20u

    E
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 7th, 2008
    Atl/Buf (SD = 15.54 [A])
    Atl +230
    OT +365

    Dal/Ana (SD = 15.46 [A])
    Dal +145
    OT +325
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    A
    1) 0-4 -4.0u
    2) 1-3 +0.5u

    C
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    D
    1) 2-2 +1.76u
    2) 1-3 +0.20u

    E
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 7th, 2008
    Atl/Buf (SD = 15.54 [A])
    Atl +230
    OT +365

    Dal/Ana (SD = 15.46 [A])
    Dal +145
    OT +325
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2008 - 4:40 PM ET #10

    Good day yesterday :)
    A
    1) 2-4 -0.25u
    2) 2-3 +3.15u

    C
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    D
    1) 2-2 +1.76u
    2) 1-3 +0.20u

    E
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 8th, 2008
    Buf/Bos (SD = 16.30 [B])
    Buf +120
    OT +325

    Pit/NYI (SD = 15.70 [A])
    NYI +150
    OT +350

    TB/Phi (SD = 19.97 [E])
    TB +137
    OT +340

    NYR/Was (SD = 15.37 [A])
    NYR +109
    OT +320

    NJ/Det (SD = 18.90 [D])
    NJ +210
    OT +365

    Nas/Col (SD = 19.40 [E])
    Nas +132
    OT +325

    Min/Van (SD = 17.12 [C])
    Min +134
    OT +340

    Dal/SJ (SD = 16.00 [B])
    Dal +182
    OT +355

    Stl/LA (SD = 20.21 [F])
    Stl +122
    OT +335
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    Good day yesterday :)
    A
    1) 2-4 -0.25u
    2) 2-3 +3.15u

    C
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    D
    1) 2-2 +1.76u
    2) 1-3 +0.20u

    E
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 8th, 2008
    Buf/Bos (SD = 16.30 [B])
    Buf +120
    OT +325

    Pit/NYI (SD = 15.70 [A])
    NYI +150
    OT +350

    TB/Phi (SD = 19.97 [E])
    TB +137
    OT +340

    NYR/Was (SD = 15.37 [A])
    NYR +109
    OT +320

    NJ/Det (SD = 18.90 [D])
    NJ +210
    OT +365

    Nas/Col (SD = 19.40 [E])
    Nas +132
    OT +325

    Min/Van (SD = 17.12 [C])
    Min +134
    OT +340

    Dal/SJ (SD = 16.00 [B])
    Dal +182
    OT +355

    Stl/LA (SD = 20.21 [F])
    Stl +122
    OT +335
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2008 - 11:07 AM ET #11

    A
    1) 2-6 -2.25u
    2) 3-4 +5.45u

    B
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    C
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 2-3 +0.76u
    2) 1-4 -0.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 9th, 2008
    Edm/NJ (SD = 15.32 [A])
    NJ -103
    OT +300

    SJ/Phx (SD = 15.62 [A])
    Phx +137
    OT +320
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    A
    1) 2-6 -2.25u
    2) 3-4 +5.45u

    B
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    C
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 2-3 +0.76u
    2) 1-4 -0.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 9th, 2008
    Edm/NJ (SD = 15.32 [A])
    NJ -103
    OT +300

    SJ/Phx (SD = 15.62 [A])
    Phx +137
    OT +320
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 10:51 AM ET #12

    A
    1) 3-7 -1.88u
    2) 3-7 +5.45u

    B
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    C
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 2-3 +0.76u
    2) 1-4 -0.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 10th, 2008
    TB/Was (SD = 15.18 [A])
    TB +155
    OT +335

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    1) 3-7 -1.88u
    2) 3-7 +5.45u

    B
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    C
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 2-3 +0.76u
    2) 1-4 -0.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 10th, 2008
    TB/Was (SD = 15.18 [A])
    TB +155
    OT +335

     
    Tomspeople
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    Posts: 1476
    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 3:12 PM ET #13

    A
    1) 3-8 -2.88u
    2) 3-8 +4.45u

    B
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    C
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 2-3 +0.76u
    2) 1-4 -0.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 11th, 2008
    Phi/NYI (SD = 18.37 [D])
    NYI +135
    OT +320

    Tor/Cal (SD = 16.64 [B])
    Tor +132
    OT +325

    Dal/LA (SD = 17.88 [C])
    LA +107
    OT +300

    Nsh/SJ (SD = 15.47 [A])
    Nsh +200
    OT +360
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    A
    1) 3-8 -2.88u
    2) 3-8 +4.45u

    B
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    C
    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 0-2 -2.0u

    D
    1) 2-3 +0.76u
    2) 1-4 -0.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 11th, 2008
    Phi/NYI (SD = 18.37 [D])
    NYI +135
    OT +320

    Tor/Cal (SD = 16.64 [B])
    Tor +132
    OT +325

    Dal/LA (SD = 17.88 [C])
    LA +107
    OT +300

    Nsh/SJ (SD = 15.47 [A])
    Nsh +200
    OT +360
     
    Tomspeople
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    Joined: Dec, 2007
    Posts: 1476
    Posted: Nov. 13, 2008 - 7:59 PM ET #14

    A
    1) 4-8 -0.88u
    2) 4-8 +8.05u

    B
    1) 0-3 -3.0u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    C
    1) 1-2 -0.93u
    2) 1-2 +1.0u

    D
    1) 2-4 -0.24u
    2) 1-5 -1.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 11th, 2008
    Mon/Bos (SD = 16.15 [B])
    Bos +120
    OT +300

    NYI/Ott (SD = 16.57 [B])
    NYI +200
    OT +365

    Phi/Pit (SD = 15.31 [A])
    Phi +145
    OT +335

    Det/TB (SD = 16.42 [B])
    TB +180
    OT +315

    Phx/Min (SD = 18.81 [D])
    Phx +168
    OT +300

    LA/Dal (SD = 18.24 [D])
    LA +162
    OT +350

    Tor/Edm (SD = 15.26 [A])
    Tor +122
    OT +325

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    A
    1) 4-8 -0.88u
    2) 4-8 +8.05u

    B
    1) 0-3 -3.0u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    C
    1) 1-2 -0.93u
    2) 1-2 +1.0u

    D
    1) 2-4 -0.24u
    2) 1-5 -1.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 11th, 2008
    Mon/Bos (SD = 16.15 [B])
    Bos +120
    OT +300

    NYI/Ott (SD = 16.57 [B])
    NYI +200
    OT +365

    Phi/Pit (SD = 15.31 [A])
    Phi +145
    OT +335

    Det/TB (SD = 16.42 [B])
    TB +180
    OT +315

    Phx/Min (SD = 18.81 [D])
    Phx +168
    OT +300

    LA/Dal (SD = 18.24 [D])
    LA +162
    OT +350

    Tor/Edm (SD = 15.26 [A])
    Tor +122
    OT +325

     
    Tomspeople
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    Joined: Dec, 2007
    Posts: 1476
    Posted: Nov. 14, 2008 - 11:19 PM ET #15

    A
    1) 5-9 -0.66u
    2) 5-9 +10.20u

    B
    1) 2-4 -0.8u
    2) 0-6 -6.0u

    C
    1) 1-2 -0.93u
    2) 1-2 +1.0u

    D
    1) 3-5 +0.38u
    2) 1-7 -3.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 14th, 2008
    Nsh/Ana (SD = 15.48 [A])
    Nsh +173
    OT +340

    NJ/Was (SD = 17.88 [C])
    NJ +175
    OT +350

    Clb/Buf (SD = 15.14 [A])
    Clb +157
    OT +350

    Det/Fla (SD = 16.14 [B])
    Fla +143
    OT +325

    Stl/Chi (SD = 16.41 [B]
    Stl +175
    OT +340
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    1) 5-9 -0.66u
    2) 5-9 +10.20u

    B
    1) 2-4 -0.8u
    2) 0-6 -6.0u

    C
    1) 1-2 -0.93u
    2) 1-2 +1.0u

    D
    1) 3-5 +0.38u
    2) 1-7 -3.80u

    E
    1) 1-2 -0.63u
    2) 0-3 -3.0u

    F
    1) 0-1 -1.0u
    2) 0-1 -1.0u

    G

    1) 0-2 -2.0u
    2) 1-1 +2.2u


    November 14th, 2008
    Nsh/Ana (SD = 15.48 [A])
    Nsh +173
    OT +340

    NJ/Was (SD = 17.88 [C])
    NJ +175
    OT +350

    Clb/Buf (SD = 15.14 [A])
    Clb +157
    OT +350

    Det/Fla (SD = 16.14 [B])
    Fla +143
    OT +325

    Stl/Chi (SD = 16.41 [B]
    Stl +175
    OT +340
     
     
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    Posts: 346
    Posted: Nov. 20, 2008 - 7:49 AM ET #16

    How is this going Tom?
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