Any advanced roulette players here?

Just networking and maybe share a few tips and strategies. Inside players who have memorized the layout and those following dealer signatures, wheel clocking, sections play. Right now I do 6 number 1-20 spin progressions or 10 number 1-15 spin progressions. Example 0,00,1,2,27,28 >5,6,7,8, 17,18,19,20, 31,32 and so on. I want to better my winning percentage and be a more consistent player. I play at all the Harrah's or any casino with video roulette...also play limited table action. If you have interest in sharing some ideas let me know here or send me an email. Thanks,

i see where you like to play multiple numbers. every time you play more then one number in the middle, you actually increase the houses edge. you lose value. no matter how many numbers you play, there are no systems, formulas, nothing to increase your chances of winning. it's an "L" game. "L" games are all table games, video games. only games where you can have an advantage "W" games are blackjack with extreme dicipline and card counting and varying your bet accordingly, table poker. not even in craps do you have an edge and thats one of the lowest house games next to baccarat. playing roulette is like playing the lottery. good luck as always

6.8.9.17.20.25.26.29.34.36  play them every spin.  you will make money

everything that mike caro has just said may have you thinking but its absolute nonsense. exclude the number 30 ! WHY???? only bet red even or black odd numbers. does a red even number have a better chance to come out than any other number. if your comparing all the red even numbers as a group compared to all the red odd numbers then caro is fuked up again there are 8 red even numbers and 10 red odd numbers.8 black odd numbers and 10 black even numbers. each space on the wheel is identified by a number. the ball lands in spaces, in theory the ball will land in each space the same amount of times as the next space. putting numbers is only a way to identify your bet with its corresponding space. every bet on the wheel has a minimal house edge built in. there isnt a bet anywhere on the table to put the odds in your favor. you cannot beat roulette in the long run. and as for the site bthat love totals mentioned, did you see where the site lists casinos to play at. who do you think is sponsoring that site, probably the casions. you take this article and you think its ground breaking new and join the casino site and you will eventually dabble in other forms of gambling and again they got there. this game is so obvious that it cannot be beat. if anyone considers themselves  a roulette professional, then im a catholic priest with a day care clinic.

degen, I'm looking at those numbers and only 25 and 29 are neighbors, the rest are spaced between 1-4 spots. The area uncovered are 21 clock-wise to 28(10 spots). Yes, if you play all these numbers eventually one will hit, but how many spins can you play before going bust? How much bankroll would you need to ride out the bad streaks? Do you follow the dealer's "finger print" or just blindly bet these numbers spin after spin?

 

rudie, you seem to have very strong conviction that roulette can not be beat, but based on your writing it's clear you're more than a casual observer. Are you making these statements because you have personally tried every strategy? How many years have you been playing and are you an inside or outside player?

 

I do think roulette can be beat, not all the time, but it's not unbeatable. One need to set realistic win goals. If you buy in for X amount and expect to double or triple, then you will lose more than you win. But if you're happy with 20-35% profit per session from your buy in, then you can win more than you lose.  Also, winning doesn't always mean walking away with money. I can't count how many times I've played for 3-4 hours and only walked away with my bankroll. Plus all the times I've walked away losing 20% of my buy in and not trying to break even.

 

The 5,6,7,8,17,18,19,20,31,32 I gave was only an example. There are also 1,2,3,4,13,14,23,24,35,36> 9,10,11,12,25,26,27,28,29,30...etc. Sometimes a number from the group won't show up for 10+ spins, sometimes you'll see a number out of the same group 8 spins in a row. About two weeks ago a dealer at Rio spun 28,28,1,10,0,28,11,0... so dealer's signature is a FACT. That's only one example. I've seen a dealer at Paris spin 6 in a row from the group of 15,16,21,22,33,34.

 

Think about it. Know all the facts before you say something can't be done. It can be done, but easier said than done.

love_totals... do you actually use that system?  looks interesting

rockonova, i agree with you that roulette can be beat, but you just dont know when. so therefore is a guessing game, yea a short list of numbers might hit and someone calls it a system or trend, but long term the game is labeled with a big "L" over it because there are no long term mathemitical or statistical formulas to win a roulette. again anyone can get lucky in the short term but every spin has you betting into a negative situation, every spin the house has an edge and the more volume "bets" on the table the larger the house edge. think about this....why does roulette give you a tree to show you what numbers came out for the last 20 or so rolls or the casino will give you pen and paper so you can write down previous results. the same with the baccarat table, i see all the asians writing down what the dealer had and what the banker had and they all are trying to come up with a formula or pattern to help them decide what to bet next. if the casino is giving you info. they're not trying to help you win, they're trying to keep you at the table, now go over toa blackjack table and start keeping tabs on what cards came out. they'll snap your pencil into tiny bits. why is that? because with "basic strategy" and card counting , blackjack can be beat in the long run. why does the only game in the casino, blackjack, have a basic strategy. because there is a legimate mathematical and statistical "basic strategy" that should be applied to limit your losses and card counting puts you over the edge and has you betting into a positive expectation. hell, mike caro is just selling books to anyone who is stupid or just in the dark to the houses edge on each game in the casino. again short term anything is possible, just try to figure when that short term is your lucky day.  best of luck at the tables in the future 

rockonova, email me and I will give you a system that wins 100% of the time, it is free, and it has been tested over a mil spins,,, and the hamburg numbers book,,,

 

tater

LOVE_T, I checked out that andruchi system and it's got some major flaws. First of all, how can they say you'll make $70 an hour? Let's put it to the test:

 

In a casino you can maybe do 50-60 spins an hour depending on how busy the table, so let's say your 5 in-a-row opportunity happens every 15 spins- which is a very optimistic estimate- so you win 4 spins for a total of $8. At home you can probably do 400 spins an hour, if everything goes perfect that's roughly 25 winning spins, about $50. And we know at home you do need money on the layout to generate a spin so what happens if zero hits 2 or 3 times before the 5-in-a-row scenario? Now you're down $6, say you win a couple of spins and break even, now a few zeros show up again, so you're just grinding it out for what? Sooner or later a dozen won't show up for 16 spins and you're out $200. And for those of you who think that will never happen, think again because I've seen it with my own two eyes. Once at TI in 18 spins, once at Paris for 20+ spins.

 

What's more laughable is the, "A last few pointers that should help you along the way."

 

1. Try not to spin more than 15-20 mins at each table(yes, you should win $2 and move on to the next target).

 

2. Avoid playing between 2-3 PM US Eastern time(I don't think I need to explain this one).

 

3. Do not get greedy and call attention to yourself(no, no, put that $10 away and run, don't walk out of the casino).

 

tatehill, I lost immediate interest when you say, "...a system that wins 100% of the time." Why not say 70% or 75% and sucker me in?

 

 

rudie, very well put, a voice of reason. Again, my goal is to get better and increase my winning percentage. I know you can't win all the time but if you have a clear set plan before you step inside a casino and follow them you should win more than you lose. I think some people do win playing roulette, but how many have the discipline to 'grind it out' is a different story. But I will continue to research and hope to become a better player.

No problem wallstreet, I really dont care too much,,,

 

 rockonova, the system was tested among a group of serious roulette players in 2003, the site is still around I think, anyway, I created a system, and it is better than most, it finished 10th out of 80 some systems,,,, down 30 some  thous lolol,,,, and the above mentioned one finished in the green, it was the only one,,,, soooooo take it for what its worth,,, (Nothing) lol,,,, I have used it a few times, and it will DRAW DOWN sometimes, but it is Meant to be very slow by design,,,,

 

If anyone wants it they can message me ask wallstreet for my email, 

tater  

also, there are systems out there that can drain your money slower, giving you a better break even percentage.  But you're still going broke in the long run.