• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • NFL Prediction Prices
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
        • Back
        • UFC
        • Odds
        • Picks
        • News & Analysis
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
      • Politics
        • Back
        • Politics
        • Politics Home
        • Presidential Election Odds
        • Midterm Election Odds
        • House Midterm Odds
        • Senate Midterm Odds
        • Texas Midterm Odds
        • Michigan Midterm Odds
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • UFC
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Crown Coins Promo Code
          • FreeSpin Casino Promo Code
          • Jackpota Promo Code
          • LoneStar Promo Code
          • McLuck Promo Code
          • NoLimitCoins Promo Code
          • Rainbet.us Promo Code
          • RealPrize Promo Code
          • Splash Coins Promo Code
          • Stake.us Promo Code
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetMGM Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • 7Bit Promo Code
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • BitStarz Promo Code
          • Jack Casino Promo Code
          • JackpotCity Promo Code
          • Rainbet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Spin Casino Promo Code
          • TonyBet Casino Bonus Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • FanDuel Predicts Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
    • NFL Week 10
      NFL Week 10
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Commanders-Giants Picks
      • Week 10 Survivor Picks
      • NFL Week 10 Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Systems & Strategies

    Another system I found by accident

    kevnbs
    powerade
    jhudd70
    AChigurh
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 728
    Posts: 9
     
    kevnbs
    kevnbs
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 89
    Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 8:12 PM ET #1

    Was researching my system of betting the dogs in division rivalries and found this.

    Bet any team that lost laying -200 or more in their previous game.

    In 2008 this returned a 31-15 record for a profit of $336 at an average price of about -160. If you stop betting this August 1st this would give you a 13-4 record for a profit of $379.

    More importantly for me it shows how to improve my numbers betting dogs in division rivalries.

    I'm gonna run the numbers for all 1999-2007 sometime this week and see if this is an aberration or holds true through other seasons.

    Almost forgot, those 4 losses mentioned above, they all won in their next outing.

    This system requires laying big wood but might help the end numbers with a small profit.


    Thoughts......
    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Was researching my system of betting the dogs in division rivalries and found this.

    Bet any team that lost laying -200 or more in their previous game.

    In 2008 this returned a 31-15 record for a profit of $336 at an average price of about -160. If you stop betting this August 1st this would give you a 13-4 record for a profit of $379.

    More importantly for me it shows how to improve my numbers betting dogs in division rivalries.

    I'm gonna run the numbers for all 1999-2007 sometime this week and see if this is an aberration or holds true through other seasons.

    Almost forgot, those 4 losses mentioned above, they all won in their next outing.

    This system requires laying big wood but might help the end numbers with a small profit.


    Thoughts......
     
    powerade
    powerade
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2007
    Posts: 18254
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 11:49 AM ET #2

    too much risk for such a small profot
    Reply
    too much risk for such a small profot
     
    kevnbs
    kevnbs
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 89
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 1:38 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by powerade:

    too much risk for such a small profot


    For most yes.

    The fact that it takes me off some other plays though is where I find the most value.

    On the other hand, $1700 wagered with a return of $379. 22% return on investment. Not bad. I'll try and run more past season and see what happens.


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by powerade:

    too much risk for such a small profot


    For most yes.

    The fact that it takes me off some other plays though is where I find the most value.

    On the other hand, $1700 wagered with a return of $379. 22% return on investment. Not bad. I'll try and run more past season and see what happens.


     
    kevnbs
    kevnbs
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 89
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 1:51 PM ET #4

    Seasonal REturns on this idea

    2007  13-19   -$1116
    2006   22-6      $677
    2005   23-11    $250
    2004   19-13   -$137
    2003   49-25   $536
    2002   29-11   $404

    Looks like this is more of a help in picking teams not to play against. That's probably how I'll use it.
     


    Reply
    Seasonal REturns on this idea

    2007  13-19   -$1116
    2006   22-6      $677
    2005   23-11    $250
    2004   19-13   -$137
    2003   49-25   $536
    2002   29-11   $404

    Looks like this is more of a help in picking teams not to play against. That's probably how I'll use it.
     


     
    jhudd70
    jhudd70
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2009
    Posts: 328
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 4:48 PM ET #5

    How about reduicing the juice by playing the run line? Any chance you can run those numbers?
    Reply
    How about reduicing the juice by playing the run line? Any chance you can run those numbers?
     
    powerade
    powerade
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2007
    Posts: 18254
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 7:41 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by kevnbs:



    For most yes.

    The fact that it takes me off some other plays though is where I find the most value.

    On the other hand, $1700 wagered with a return of $379. 22% return on investment. Not bad. I'll try and run more past season and see what happens.


    that seems like too much risk for such a minor profit IMO

    if you roll with this I would bump the units up to say $500 a play then your profits increases bigtime....but again you gotta have the bankroll and be able to sustain the ups and downs ending in the final results...

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by kevnbs:



    For most yes.

    The fact that it takes me off some other plays though is where I find the most value.

    On the other hand, $1700 wagered with a return of $379. 22% return on investment. Not bad. I'll try and run more past season and see what happens.


    that seems like too much risk for such a minor profit IMO

    if you roll with this I would bump the units up to say $500 a play then your profits increases bigtime....but again you gotta have the bankroll and be able to sustain the ups and downs ending in the final results...

     
    powerade
    powerade
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2007
    Posts: 18254
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 7:43 PM ET #7

    by the way, don't think I'm knocking you or the idea....
     
    I have come up with many....tons of ways to bet games and have pages and pages and files and files on my computer of saved research....
       some good and some bad.....but doing work and trying to find ways to win is always a good thing....
     
    i'm just giving you another side of looking at it ya know
    Reply
    by the way, don't think I'm knocking you or the idea....
     
    I have come up with many....tons of ways to bet games and have pages and pages and files and files on my computer of saved research....
       some good and some bad.....but doing work and trying to find ways to win is always a good thing....
     
    i'm just giving you another side of looking at it ya know
     
    kevnbs
    kevnbs
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 89
    Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 11:33 PM ET #8

    Power

    I never take opinion, criticism or suggestions as a knock.

    Jhudd

    I don't have the 1' lines in my database. However the record for 2008 went from 13-4 to 9-8. The runline is usually a 60 cent + improvement so there would be a slight profit.

    I don't have the rest of the years handy and I'm gonna watch the end of the A's game instead of looking
    Reply
    Power

    I never take opinion, criticism or suggestions as a knock.

    Jhudd

    I don't have the 1' lines in my database. However the record for 2008 went from 13-4 to 9-8. The runline is usually a 60 cent + improvement so there would be a slight profit.

    I don't have the rest of the years handy and I'm gonna watch the end of the A's game instead of looking
     
     
    AChigurh
    AChigurh
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2008
    Posts: 833
    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 10:00 AM ET #9

    40 events does not make something statisically relevent
     
    I would hate for u to drop a dime on every game this "system" prodeces just forit to go .500 this season
    Reply
    40 events does not make something statisically relevent
     
    I would hate for u to drop a dime on every game this "system" prodeces just forit to go .500 this season
    All Forums | Systems & Strategies

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 63,588
    • Tuesday 11/10/2026 313
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 113,699
    • Week 11 Money 2,528
    • Florida Man Tuesday 3,399
    • ::Tuesday:: 11/10 (34-15-0) +18.6 units 2,200
    • 11/9 4,143
    • Bags Tuesday LARGE **Michigan State vs Duke** 1,766
    • MODERATE voters say ... 35,402
    • BILLS/VIKS live in game comments welcome 797

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Privacy Choices Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo
    Covers Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.