Glenn Beck's Rumors of War 3

 "It is Glenn Beck’s Rumors of War 3 which I believe goes into great detail about how the Muslim Brotherhood has been given access to our government and as a result our country. "

https://www.therightscoop.com/sunday-ot-and-matinee-glenn-becks-rumors-of-war-3/

Watch with an open mind.

Left wing nuts, watch it before u bash it......

 

I watched ten minutes and had a couple of questions come to mind. First, why do these Islamist groups want to attack us? Second, when did this desire to attack us start? Third, what can we do to change their ideals?

I have my own personal answers for all of these questions but I am curious to know what you're are?

Third, what can we do to change their ideals?

NOTHING .......

I went to college w/ this muslim girl who had recently converted to christianity. Her family cursed her, disowned her, and won't even speak to her. It's really sad that they could disown their own flesh and blood. That is a scarey idealistic religion.

I would be interested to see what frc has as answers... my guess it that "another poster" will answer the question however

The movie had me until the last 2 minutes. Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a hero to the jihadists, fighting for totalitarian Muslim rule and former president Ronald Reagan is the hero of the crusaders fighting for colonialism and dominionism. They are both terrorists in my eyes.

I want NO part of this war between Islam and Christianity. The crusades never ended, it just took a different form. Ron Paul is the only politician alive that understands that the only reason there is a war on terrorism is the US acting as the world police.

Get all the US troops from every country home and stay out of everyone else’s business. Every time the US kills Muslim’s, it’s recruiting propaganda for the Jihadists. As long as the US has bases on every country, it’s recruiting propaganda for the Jihadists. Every time the US has US troops on Holy Land, it’s recruiting propaganda for the Jihadists.

As long as the US has troops overseas and are the world police crusaders fighting for colonialism and dominionism, this war will never end, they will continue the drum beat and both sides will be responsible.

someone, i think rick, posted a brief but good video of the US's meddling in iran.  it was illustrative of the US's continual tendency to get involved in these middle eastern countries, exploit them for our own gain, piss the people off, sometimes help to install a government or group that is worse than the previous one, leave it much worse than when we got there and basically take a short term approach for our immediate gain without any consideration for the long term ramifications for the people who live thre and the resulting hatred towards us. 

our government is the same there as it is here.  they care only about themselves, do what they need to do to accomplish their immediate goals and are too dumb or just don't give a shot about long term ramifications.  and then they just tell the average idiot that muslims are evil, christians are good and that explains everything.   

No disrepect, but I think I know your answer to your question.

I'm gonna go out on a limb.

Who is "We're to blame", Alex?

to your typical rightwinger, use of allocated brain cells beyond, brown skin bad, white skin good and muslim bad, christian good, is just not part of the program.  as a result, not only will answers to ktrain's questions evade them but so will the reasons for asking them.  the good question isn't why they hate us but why wouldn't they hate us. 

here's the video that i think rick posted.  it's obviously short and just scratches the surface but it's a start.

there are mroe examples and more countries in which we have intervened than i can name.

however, read up on our history in afghanistan and what we did to enable the taliban and bin laden.

read the book The Prize about what we did to exploit these countries for their oil and how we treated them

read about our history in iraq with saddam and others.

read about our history with saudi arabia. 

learn some history.

if you are a santorum republican, don't get left out, have someone read to you. 

Here is that video 

Does anyone need to click on the link to know what the content is going to be?

*came and set up shop.....

Evidently money means everything in that family. Like uncle, like nephew.

as predicted...  "another poster" comes in to answer the question as if speaking for FRC...

Typical KKroger discussion...


The were to blame comment tho sounds like the reluctant and resentful tone taken in situations where GW is responsible...

For certain groups of people the concept of accountability and personal responsibility is not something they can process... thus the reliance on scapegoating

but what 21st century politics has shown us is that devoting alot of attention, fear and concern  about middle eastern countries and being a "war time president" results in an emperor like rule of the executive branch as well as the power to devote trillions of dollars and as much resource and lives as they feel fit with no accountability to their blank check spending...

I am for Ron Paul as everyone knows as he is most conservative candidate (most conservative on spending, wars/occupation, wasting of resources/lives)

but I fail to see why romney/obama would not invade iraq and create as much global friction as possible as it create a smoke screen to other issues and allow the executive branch to seize more power...

At least that what 21st century history has shown us...

Bush Sr was considered a wimp because he was more conservative in his choices and style of diplomacy...  and ended up being a one term president as he base prefers the reckless and senseless spending in the name of saber rattling that made Bush Jr a two term president...

I hear what you saying logically ktrain, but based on 21st century history that is how the emperor seizes the power... so what is to stop obama/romney from doing what is simply the natural thing to do based on precedent?

I agree with what you say dl. The only thing stopping them is people finally getting sick of war, and the people who profit from it.

It's going to take voting in Ron Paul, or someone like him. It's also going to take ensuring that elections aren't rigged and that the media and supreme court are not influencing or even determining our electoral process.

I'm not sure that is possible anymore in America, at least not right now. Things aren't bad enough for the general populace to want to make changes.

IMO it's not that"things aren't bad enough" but people are oblivious to the facts.

People are oblivious to the facts because this doesn't affect their daily lives....yet. But let's be honest, as bad as things are it doesn't affect us on a day to day basis yet. We're not waiting two hours in breadlines or having to walk everywhere because gas is finally expensive enough that we can't/won't buy it.

It's pretty sad but most people know more about reality tv or what Kim Kardashian is doing than the state of our country.

Funny you should mention reality tv ,lol! the american pickers were in my hometown today. Actually across the street from where I live. I sold mike wolfe a tank from an old columbia bicycle.lol!!

 

First, why do these Islamist groups want to attack us?

 

Who knows?  I’ll certainly admit we have our faults. Don’t think it’s the majority of the the Islamic peoples who want to attack. I don’t think the Islamic radicals are very “tolerant”. No exactly a stunning revelation.

Perhaps nature has instilled an aggressive gene, that I’ll bet both you and I deny having, and, that perhaps can never be completely extinguished.  

 

 

 Second, when did this desire to attack us start?

 

My guess is around 600 AD. Islam has been (not that we haven’t) an aggressive and expansionists’ culture since its inception.

 

 

Third, what can we do to change their ideals?

 

We can let them know that we prefer dialogue first, but they’ll pay a high price if they use force or terrorism.

 

I really need to start proof reading my posts

 

You’re very articulate. Don’t think that would be necessary.

 

Glendef,

I realize the crusades are probably a sore spot for islamist through out history. America has primarily been a Christian oriented country since its inception. I know we based this country on a freedom of religion, but it's been primarily Christian.

It only seems like we see response and aggression from the Muslim world when America does something in their world. Exploiting Iran's resources and oil, installing the Shah, building marine barracks in Lebanon, staying in Saudi Arabia after the Persian Gulf War.

It seems like every Islamist attack is in response to an action from America in their part the world. Maybe I'm missing something but have they attacked us without provocation? Was there an attack after we left Lebanon but before we stayed in Saudi Arabia acted the gulf war? I don't remember one if there was. Why didn't we see any attacks until the Iranian hostage crisis?

I just think that if we withdrew from the area, both militarily and in terms of foreign aid, it would be better for America. I'm all for focusing on building our own nation instead of others.

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