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@Anthostarks: Unfortunately not everyone is as lucky as you are. I’ve had family members die from covid before inception of vaccine also.
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 Thank you my brother. I'm not some wacko trump guy I just hate being forced to do something. 

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 Thank you my brother. I'm not some wacko trump guy I just hate being forced to do something. 

 
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 “Nobody has to get vaccinated”

Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay. 

 

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 “Nobody has to get vaccinated”

Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay. 

 

 
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 I'm terribly sorry to hear that. I had major open heart surgery Dec 3. Aortic valve replacement and a new tricuspid  valve. I'm glad I have it now and not a month ago.  I don't deny the reality of covid but I do feel like we can't hide forever and the media and govt is manipulating the masses.

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 I'm terribly sorry to hear that. I had major open heart surgery Dec 3. Aortic valve replacement and a new tricuspid  valve. I'm glad I have it now and not a month ago.  I don't deny the reality of covid but I do feel like we can't hide forever and the media and govt is manipulating the masses.

 
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@StumpTownStu  “Nobody has to get vaccinated” Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay.

That sucks and I don't agree with it but that is there decision to make. Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment.

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@StumpTownStu  “Nobody has to get vaccinated” Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay.

That sucks and I don't agree with it but that is there decision to make. Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment.

 
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Also I'm not trying to sound like Aaron Rodgers over here but some incorporating some zinc, liposomal vitamin C,  oil of oregano and etc into your daily life works wonders 

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Also I'm not trying to sound like Aaron Rodgers over here but some incorporating some zinc, liposomal vitamin C,  oil of oregano and etc into your daily life works wonders 

 
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@7out  I have covid right now. I'm unvaccinated. It's like the most mild cold ever.

My sister had the first variant before vaccines. She was 50 and has Asthma. Loss of smell but not taste and lethargy. It's a crap shoot. Nobody super close to be has passed but I know people through people who have. The people who are closest to me who have had it, both vaccinated and unvaccinated, have not had a tough go of it, thankfully. My sister who had it got vaccinated. My other sister, both of her young adult kids have had it. None are vaccinated. They both seem to be doing just fine. There is no one right answer. You all can stop bickering amongst yourselves and pushing your agenda on others. There is no right answer.

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@7out  I have covid right now. I'm unvaccinated. It's like the most mild cold ever.

My sister had the first variant before vaccines. She was 50 and has Asthma. Loss of smell but not taste and lethargy. It's a crap shoot. Nobody super close to be has passed but I know people through people who have. The people who are closest to me who have had it, both vaccinated and unvaccinated, have not had a tough go of it, thankfully. My sister who had it got vaccinated. My other sister, both of her young adult kids have had it. None are vaccinated. They both seem to be doing just fine. There is no one right answer. You all can stop bickering amongst yourselves and pushing your agenda on others. There is no right answer.

 
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@Thirtythree That’s not what I’ve noticed. People vaccinated at work who have tested positive have returned saying it was like flu or cold but fully recovered. Those that have not been vaccinated have had longer recouping time and some had to be pumped with steroids. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/10/blog-posting/no-getting-covid-19-vaccine-wont-weaken-your-immun/
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Also I'm not trying to sound like Aaron Rodgers over here but some incorporating some zinc, liposomal vitamin C,  oil of oregano and etc into your daily life works wonders

Vitamin D. A take a ton of stuff 

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Also I'm not trying to sound like Aaron Rodgers over here but some incorporating some zinc, liposomal vitamin C,  oil of oregano and etc into your daily life works wonders

Vitamin D. A take a ton of stuff 

 
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 This is my 2nd bout with covid. First time before my heart surgery I also lost taste and smell and it took like several months to come back. Like I stated before I don't deny the reality of this shit I just refuse to be forced to take a vaccine when I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. Everyone is different though and everyone should be able to chose for themselves 

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 This is my 2nd bout with covid. First time before my heart surgery I also lost taste and smell and it took like several months to come back. Like I stated before I don't deny the reality of this shit I just refuse to be forced to take a vaccine when I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. Everyone is different though and everyone should be able to chose for themselves 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyStarks:

@StumpTownStu  This is my 2nd bout with covid. First time before my heart surgery I also lost taste and smell and it took like several months to come back. Like I stated before I don't deny the reality of this shit I just refuse to be forced to take a vaccine when I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. Everyone is different though and everyone should be able to chose for themselves

If I had heart surgery, I'd be especially apprehensive about the vaccine too. If I was a professional athlete, I would be apprehensive. And frankly, if anybody is apprehensive, given that this form of therapy is very new and unproven in the long run, it should be their right to abstain. It should also be an employer's right to set the parameters of conduct and conditions of employment within their respective companies. There's no right answer. It's a complex, multifaceted issue but arguing about it in a football forum, saying the same things over and over again every day, does dick to figure it out.

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@StumpTownStu  This is my 2nd bout with covid. First time before my heart surgery I also lost taste and smell and it took like several months to come back. Like I stated before I don't deny the reality of this shit I just refuse to be forced to take a vaccine when I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. Everyone is different though and everyone should be able to chose for themselves

If I had heart surgery, I'd be especially apprehensive about the vaccine too. If I was a professional athlete, I would be apprehensive. And frankly, if anybody is apprehensive, given that this form of therapy is very new and unproven in the long run, it should be their right to abstain. It should also be an employer's right to set the parameters of conduct and conditions of employment within their respective companies. There's no right answer. It's a complex, multifaceted issue but arguing about it in a football forum, saying the same things over and over again every day, does dick to figure it out.

 
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@StumpTownStu  WHAT???? Ever heard of mandates? WOW!

A requirement of vaccination as a condition or term is a big difference than making it a law that one is vaccinated. You don't have to be vaccinated. It's a slippery slope, and I am against mandates, but my point is everyone has the right to be unvaccinated.

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@StumpTownStu  WHAT???? Ever heard of mandates? WOW!

A requirement of vaccination as a condition or term is a big difference than making it a law that one is vaccinated. You don't have to be vaccinated. It's a slippery slope, and I am against mandates, but my point is everyone has the right to be unvaccinated.

 
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In the last days you will be required to take a mark on your hand or forehead. No one can buy or sell without it. Rev 13 MARK OF THE BEAST

I was brought up with the Christian faith but keep standing on the street corner, screaming that the end of the world is coming. att_pleasean_blowhorn  EVERY president/world leader is the anti-Christ and we're always at the end of times.

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In the last days you will be required to take a mark on your hand or forehead. No one can buy or sell without it. Rev 13 MARK OF THE BEAST

I was brought up with the Christian faith but keep standing on the street corner, screaming that the end of the world is coming. att_pleasean_blowhorn  EVERY president/world leader is the anti-Christ and we're always at the end of times.

Yes, please do so.. *eye roll

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

when you catch it, may your cases be mild ones.[/Quote That's the key, I'm very thankful I only had mild symptoms ( exhausted for 2 days) coworkers have not been so lucky over the last month... , unfortunately gullible rubes think omicton is no big deal as 2000+ Americans die per day of covid.

Did your credibility die of Covid or with Covid?

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Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

when you catch it, may your cases be mild ones.[/Quote That's the key, I'm very thankful I only had mild symptoms ( exhausted for 2 days) coworkers have not been so lucky over the last month... , unfortunately gullible rubes think omicton is no big deal as 2000+ Americans die per day of covid.

Did your credibility die of Covid or with Covid?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by 7out: I got a vaccinated cousin who got over omnicron in 4 days and a Trumper cousin who believes all the dumb conspiracy theories trumpers do in the ICU with covid fighting to breath. Same story throughout the country. Science should stand alone when making the decision to vaccinate or not. Converse with a doctor to make a decision not politically driven memes. its a pandemic of the vaccinated you moron. 99.5% of all new cases are from the jabbed. Your IQ is showing.

7out, Doubleup4life, BWS77 and Vanzack are right.  After 2 years, obviously pandemic is not a hoax or the flu.  Sadly, there is also a infodemic of misinformation from Fox news and anti-vaxxers.  Hospitals are overwhelmed with vast majority of covid patients unvaccinated especially in intensive care.  Center for disease control or any top public health organization in the world confirms that unvaccinated people are far more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. 

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Quote Originally Posted by 7out: I got a vaccinated cousin who got over omnicron in 4 days and a Trumper cousin who believes all the dumb conspiracy theories trumpers do in the ICU with covid fighting to breath. Same story throughout the country. Science should stand alone when making the decision to vaccinate or not. Converse with a doctor to make a decision not politically driven memes. its a pandemic of the vaccinated you moron. 99.5% of all new cases are from the jabbed. Your IQ is showing.

7out, Doubleup4life, BWS77 and Vanzack are right.  After 2 years, obviously pandemic is not a hoax or the flu.  Sadly, there is also a infodemic of misinformation from Fox news and anti-vaxxers.  Hospitals are overwhelmed with vast majority of covid patients unvaccinated especially in intensive care.  Center for disease control or any top public health organization in the world confirms that unvaccinated people are far more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. 

 
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 You may want to expand on this. Not everyone reads fiction and believes in mythical sky fairies.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @StumpTownStu  WHAT???? Ever heard of mandates? WOW! A requirement of vaccination as a condition or term is a big difference than making it a law that one is vaccinated. You don't have to be vaccinated. It's a slippery slope, and I am against mandates, but my point is everyone has the right to be unvaccinated.

Nice comments Stu. With Omicron racing right through the vaccinated what is the sense of vaccine mandates anymore? 

Michigan State University mandated all students and faculty be vaccinated last fall. So why is the university using only remote learning right now?? Too dangerous for the vaccinated to go to class???? Oh, by the way, Spartan basketball home games are sold out every night they play this month. an_wink crazy world!!!

If your old, have comorbidities, big time smoker, hell yeah you should get vaccinated. 

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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @StumpTownStu  WHAT???? Ever heard of mandates? WOW! A requirement of vaccination as a condition or term is a big difference than making it a law that one is vaccinated. You don't have to be vaccinated. It's a slippery slope, and I am against mandates, but my point is everyone has the right to be unvaccinated.

Nice comments Stu. With Omicron racing right through the vaccinated what is the sense of vaccine mandates anymore? 

Michigan State University mandated all students and faculty be vaccinated last fall. So why is the university using only remote learning right now?? Too dangerous for the vaccinated to go to class???? Oh, by the way, Spartan basketball home games are sold out every night they play this month. an_wink crazy world!!!

If your old, have comorbidities, big time smoker, hell yeah you should get vaccinated. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

Quote Originally Posted by M_M: @StumpTownStu  “Nobody has to get vaccinated” Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay. That sucks and I don't agree with it but that is there decision to make. Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment.

Disagree here Stu. I worked in a field that had possible Hep-C exposer, vax never was mandated, always a choice. Since July the vaccinated are more likely to be asymptomatic and spread covid unknowingly and according to the CDC the vaccinated are less likely to get tested for covid. In August Fauci says viral load the same in vaccinated when infected. What sense does it make for an employer to mandate with this evidence? It doesn't make sense.

Rams won, good call.

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Quote Originally Posted by M_M: @StumpTownStu  “Nobody has to get vaccinated” Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay. That sucks and I don't agree with it but that is there decision to make. Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment.

Disagree here Stu. I worked in a field that had possible Hep-C exposer, vax never was mandated, always a choice. Since July the vaccinated are more likely to be asymptomatic and spread covid unknowingly and according to the CDC the vaccinated are less likely to get tested for covid. In August Fauci says viral load the same in vaccinated when infected. What sense does it make for an employer to mandate with this evidence? It doesn't make sense.

Rams won, good call.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by Skipster: when you catch it, may your cases be mild ones.[/Quote That's the key, I'm very thankful I only had mild symptoms ( exhausted for 2 days) coworkers have not been so lucky over the last month... , unfortunately gullible rubes think omicton is no big deal as 2000+ Americans die per day of covid. Did your credibility die of Covid or with Covid? Quote Originally Posted by Contrarian21: Quote Originally Posted by 7out: I got a vaccinated cousin who got over omnicron in 4 days and a Trumper cousin who believes all the dumb conspiracy theories trumpers do in the ICU with covid fighting to breath. Same story throughout the country. Science should stand alone when making the decision to vaccinate or not. Converse with a doctor to make a decision not politically driven memes. its a pandemic of the vaccinated you moron. 99.5% of all new cases are from the jabbed. Your IQ is showing. 7out, Doubleup4life, BWS77 and Vanzack are right.  After 2 years, obviously pandemic is not a hoax or the flu.  Sadly, there is also a infodemic of misinformation from Fox news and anti-vaxxers.  Hospitals are overwhelmed with vast majority of covid patients unvaccinated especially in intensive care.  Center for disease control or any top public health organization in the world confirms that unvaccinated people are far more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. @lancer89074  You may want to expand on this. Not everyone reads fiction and believes in mythical sky fairies. Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @StumpTownStu  WHAT???? Ever heard of mandates? WOW! A requirement of vaccination as a condition or term is a big difference than making it a law that one is vaccinated. You don't have to be vaccinated. It's a slippery slope, and I am against mandates, but my point is everyone has the right to be unvaccinated. Nice comments Stu. With Omicron racing right through the vaccinated what is the sense of vaccine mandates anymore?  Michigan State University mandated all students and faculty be vaccinated last fall. So why is the university using only remote learning right now?? Too dangerous for the vaccinated to go to class???? Oh, by the way, Spartan basketball home games are sold out every night they play this month.  crazy world!!! If your old, have comorbidities, big time smoker, hell yeah you should get vaccinated.  Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by M_M: @StumpTownStu  “Nobody has to get vaccinated” Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay. That sucks and I don't agree with it but that is there decision to make. Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment. Disagree here Stu. I worked in a field that had possible Hep-C exposer, vax never was mandated, always a choice. Since July the vaccinated are more likely to be asymptomatic and spread covid unknowingly and according to the CDC the vaccinated are less likely to get tested for covid. In August Fauci says viral load the same in vaccinated when infected. What sense does it make for an employer to mandate with this evidence? It doesn't make sense. Rams won, good call.

What are you disagreeing with exactly, Uni?

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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by Skipster: when you catch it, may your cases be mild ones.[/Quote That's the key, I'm very thankful I only had mild symptoms ( exhausted for 2 days) coworkers have not been so lucky over the last month... , unfortunately gullible rubes think omicton is no big deal as 2000+ Americans die per day of covid. Did your credibility die of Covid or with Covid? Quote Originally Posted by Contrarian21: Quote Originally Posted by 7out: I got a vaccinated cousin who got over omnicron in 4 days and a Trumper cousin who believes all the dumb conspiracy theories trumpers do in the ICU with covid fighting to breath. Same story throughout the country. Science should stand alone when making the decision to vaccinate or not. Converse with a doctor to make a decision not politically driven memes. its a pandemic of the vaccinated you moron. 99.5% of all new cases are from the jabbed. Your IQ is showing. 7out, Doubleup4life, BWS77 and Vanzack are right.  After 2 years, obviously pandemic is not a hoax or the flu.  Sadly, there is also a infodemic of misinformation from Fox news and anti-vaxxers.  Hospitals are overwhelmed with vast majority of covid patients unvaccinated especially in intensive care.  Center for disease control or any top public health organization in the world confirms that unvaccinated people are far more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. @lancer89074  You may want to expand on this. Not everyone reads fiction and believes in mythical sky fairies. Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @StumpTownStu  WHAT???? Ever heard of mandates? WOW! A requirement of vaccination as a condition or term is a big difference than making it a law that one is vaccinated. You don't have to be vaccinated. It's a slippery slope, and I am against mandates, but my point is everyone has the right to be unvaccinated. Nice comments Stu. With Omicron racing right through the vaccinated what is the sense of vaccine mandates anymore?  Michigan State University mandated all students and faculty be vaccinated last fall. So why is the university using only remote learning right now?? Too dangerous for the vaccinated to go to class???? Oh, by the way, Spartan basketball home games are sold out every night they play this month.  crazy world!!! If your old, have comorbidities, big time smoker, hell yeah you should get vaccinated.  Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by M_M: @StumpTownStu  “Nobody has to get vaccinated” Tell that to all employees who are having it a requirement to keep their job. People who have kids and bills to pay. That sucks and I don't agree with it but that is there decision to make. Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment. Disagree here Stu. I worked in a field that had possible Hep-C exposer, vax never was mandated, always a choice. Since July the vaccinated are more likely to be asymptomatic and spread covid unknowingly and according to the CDC the vaccinated are less likely to get tested for covid. In August Fauci says viral load the same in vaccinated when infected. What sense does it make for an employer to mandate with this evidence? It doesn't make sense. Rams won, good call.

What are you disagreeing with exactly, Uni?

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment. What sense does it make for an employer to mandate with this evidence? 

Pope Francis urges people to get vaccinated as a civic duty to society.  Even with milder omicron variant, hospitals are overwhelmed.  For a more contagious virus, vaccination rate of population needs to be higher to reduce burden on healthcare system.  Hospitals and nursing homes  mandate vaccination  to protect patients and healthcare workers against severe illness.  Especially those at higher risk such as the unvaccinated and immune compromised.   According to Kaiser family foundation study, hundreds of thousands of covid hospitalizations could have prevented by vaccines in the US.   Historically, achieving high vaccination rates are almost impossible without mandates.

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Having that job isn't a right. It's a privilege. Not getting vaccinated is a right. It is an employer's right to set conditions of employment. What sense does it make for an employer to mandate with this evidence? 

Pope Francis urges people to get vaccinated as a civic duty to society.  Even with milder omicron variant, hospitals are overwhelmed.  For a more contagious virus, vaccination rate of population needs to be higher to reduce burden on healthcare system.  Hospitals and nursing homes  mandate vaccination  to protect patients and healthcare workers against severe illness.  Especially those at higher risk such as the unvaccinated and immune compromised.   According to Kaiser family foundation study, hundreds of thousands of covid hospitalizations could have prevented by vaccines in the US.   Historically, achieving high vaccination rates are almost impossible without mandates.

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