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I thought they had a shot at the cup earlier in the year. They've got to much talent

 
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some say it's the Ballard curse 
 
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The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
 
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The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
 
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Same crap happened in Chi town but no one .made any excuses there they went on to win mulitiple  cups...quinville caused all over kinds of turmoil with the front office 
 
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The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
 
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The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
 
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I think Jroc touched upon this subject a while back, i.e. the Leaf's are very soft and Babcock does nothing to harden the team.  The leafs are an extension of a soft Babcock that used to not be this way ($$$ changes coaches in a big way, at times).    an_light

 
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ya bad defensively and soft like marshmallow new_sweating1

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Quote Originally Posted by ryan3212:

I thought they had a shot at the cup earlier in the year. They've got to much talent

No physicality, no heart, no mental toughness.

 
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Playing as predicted. 

About 104 points pace...not much off what was expected. 
Regular season meaningless. 

Tampa stole all their thunder. 
 
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Has anything really changed over the decades with them ?  If this same team was in another city, south of the border they would of won at least a few more cups.  The microscope is so intense there and of course being in the shadow of the Habs and Oilers for so long.   

As much as most people in Canada can't stand the Southeast and Southwest U.S. having teams.  Almost every player loves playing in those places because they can actually go down the street and not even be noticed.  Mostly only questions from news outlets from Canada asking questions after the games.  They are out of there in minutes instead of 30 minutes of grilling.  

Also not 24/7 talk radio saying how much you $uck


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

Ryan, are you American? I'm only asking that because there is major off ice turmoil with the Leafs right now, some warranted but of course amplified by the Toronto. So I asked because it would explain that you have not heard about any of it. With that said hockey wise, they lack defensive talent and have zero sandpaper on their team, two must haves for any team with cup aspirations.

Bear what is this turmoil you talking about? I wasnt aware of anything
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

jroc the two situations have nothing in common. First off you can find hockey news in Chicago on page 6 of the sports section, in Toronto you can find it on the front page of the newspaper itself. Also the hawks were stacked with talent, the leafs are not. Hockey is life here, in American cites it is an after thought. Night and day.


From my experiences living in Toronto, I can tell you that most people here probably don't care all that much about the leafs / hockey / sports in general, at least before the playoffs start. I would say that there are a lot of die-hard leaf fans but you'll probably find them in the 40 plus population. To say hockey is life is a pretty big stretch at least from what i see.
 
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Anderson hasn't been great lately, plus Leafs are still with in striking distance. Teams change moment weekly, even though Tampa and Boston are a cut above our boys can still win it all if they get hot. We can win with just pure offence if you piss us off.

The only sure thing about luck is that it will change.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

Quote Originally Posted by jski66:

Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

jroc the two situations have nothing in common. First off you can find hockey news in Chicago on page 6 of the sports section, in Toronto you can find it on the front page of the newspaper itself. Also the hawks were stacked with talent, the leafs are not. Hockey is life here, in American cites it is an after thought. Night and day.
From my experiences living in Toronto, I can tell you that most people here probably don't care all that much about the leafs / hockey / sports in general, at least before the playoffs start. I would say that there are a lot of die-hard leaf fans but you'll probably find them in the 40 plus population. To say hockey is life is a pretty big stretch at least from what i see.
Lived in Toronto all my life as well minus a few years living in the States and yes in comparison hockey is life here compared to American cities. However I have stated on here many times that is changing with demographics which is the age thing you mention, to be blunt those older people you speak of are white Canadians, who are being replaced by younger people of color from different cultures that could give a rat's azz about hockey. That is part of a general wipeout of white Canadian culture in general but let's not get all into that. However living just northeast of Toronto now in a smaller city hockey hotbed it along with white Canadian culture is still as strong as ever so depends where you are. But yes I agree with you in the major cities across Canada as white Canadians and their culture get replaced and discarded so does the game of hockey.
same idea out here in BC, more of the immigrant or new to canada crowd is interested in the whitecaps etc. Most fans have been fans for a while because of their parents etc. plus we suck so the whole bandwagon playoff only crown dissappeared ages ago

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