They've been through the gauntlet. #1 sos in the league. Multiple injuries on the defensive front. An injury to Lamar who is probably worth the most points to a spread of any player in the league right now.
I've heard some chirping from Ravens fans that Harbaugh's time may be up, or at least looked at being up. Sitting at 1-5 you have to think that this is a true "must win" spot at this juncture in time. Just think of what everyone will be talking about if they in fact lose this game. All hope for the season could be completely lost after Sunday. Their next 3 games are otr.
What they have going for them:
Clearly Lamar being back is #1. What other key players are coming back? Is it Roquon, an ex Bear? On defense he's just as important to that unit as Lamar is on offense. It would be Smith’s first time playing against the Bears, who drafted him No. 8 overall in 2018.
The Ravens despite being 1-5 have had 4 of 6 games at home. This game is at home making 5 of their first 7 at home. The schedule makers did them a favor in that regard, despite the tough competition.
They are coming off a bye.
Onto the Bears next post...
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Bears@Baltimore
Let's start with the Ravens.
They've been through the gauntlet. #1 sos in the league. Multiple injuries on the defensive front. An injury to Lamar who is probably worth the most points to a spread of any player in the league right now.
I've heard some chirping from Ravens fans that Harbaugh's time may be up, or at least looked at being up. Sitting at 1-5 you have to think that this is a true "must win" spot at this juncture in time. Just think of what everyone will be talking about if they in fact lose this game. All hope for the season could be completely lost after Sunday. Their next 3 games are otr.
What they have going for them:
Clearly Lamar being back is #1. What other key players are coming back? Is it Roquon, an ex Bear? On defense he's just as important to that unit as Lamar is on offense. It would be Smith’s first time playing against the Bears, who drafted him No. 8 overall in 2018.
The Ravens despite being 1-5 have had 4 of 6 games at home. This game is at home making 5 of their first 7 at home. The schedule makers did them a favor in that regard, despite the tough competition.
The Bears are flying high after winning 4 in a row after an 0-2 start. Their competition hasn't been tough, minus Minnesota and GB who were their 2 losses.
They've recently been to the DC area and beat the Commanders, same trip travel wise.
The run game has finally taken form for the Bears, it's Ben Johnson's bread n butter.
The Bears are the only team in the NFL to score 21 or more points in every game.
The defense has also turned it around under Dennis Allen. They lead the league in forced turnovers. The pass rush from the front 4 is still mediocre at best, but Dennis Allen's blitz package has been dialed up of late getting a lot of pressure on qb's.
I'll let all of you talk about Caleb. I'm not seeing the guy everyone expected as of yet. When we're seeing a lot of the younger qb's in the league turning into great players, we're still waiting for Caleb to join that conversation. To his credit, he's not turning the ball over much at all. But he's not getting the ball out on time, it's 1,2,3 with him and then goes into his hero scramble mode.
What to make of the #?
This spread opened Ravens -6, and quickly got bet to -7. That's not the regular Joe's betting this early in the week.
Just think about it like this...the Bears won 4 in a row and the Ravens lost 4 in a row. And you have to lay 7(win by 8 or more) with a 1-5 team to cash your ticket.
That's insane, but I think the books know it's a smash spot. I was looking for an opener of Ravens -3 or so. And even then wouldn't it still be hard(for the average bettor) to be on the Ravens side?
What do y'all think?
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The Bears are flying high after winning 4 in a row after an 0-2 start. Their competition hasn't been tough, minus Minnesota and GB who were their 2 losses.
They've recently been to the DC area and beat the Commanders, same trip travel wise.
The run game has finally taken form for the Bears, it's Ben Johnson's bread n butter.
The Bears are the only team in the NFL to score 21 or more points in every game.
The defense has also turned it around under Dennis Allen. They lead the league in forced turnovers. The pass rush from the front 4 is still mediocre at best, but Dennis Allen's blitz package has been dialed up of late getting a lot of pressure on qb's.
I'll let all of you talk about Caleb. I'm not seeing the guy everyone expected as of yet. When we're seeing a lot of the younger qb's in the league turning into great players, we're still waiting for Caleb to join that conversation. To his credit, he's not turning the ball over much at all. But he's not getting the ball out on time, it's 1,2,3 with him and then goes into his hero scramble mode.
What to make of the #?
This spread opened Ravens -6, and quickly got bet to -7. That's not the regular Joe's betting this early in the week.
Just think about it like this...the Bears won 4 in a row and the Ravens lost 4 in a row. And you have to lay 7(win by 8 or more) with a 1-5 team to cash your ticket.
That's insane, but I think the books know it's a smash spot. I was looking for an opener of Ravens -3 or so. And even then wouldn't it still be hard(for the average bettor) to be on the Ravens side?
The Bears are the only team in the NFL to score 21 or more points in every game. Interesting stat
Despite recent successes, the Bears are still a work in progress, maybe a year away from being truly competitive. If the Ravens get key players back and bring their A game, they could easily win by DD. The only true must-win games are the ones that eliminate a team from the playoffs, or qualifying for playoffs. That said, this is as close to must-win as a mid season game can be for the Ravens.
at first glance, not sure I like this game, but lean to Ravens. Might also consider Bears TT UNDER.
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Nice write up
The Bears are the only team in the NFL to score 21 or more points in every game. Interesting stat
Despite recent successes, the Bears are still a work in progress, maybe a year away from being truly competitive. If the Ravens get key players back and bring their A game, they could easily win by DD. The only true must-win games are the ones that eliminate a team from the playoffs, or qualifying for playoffs. That said, this is as close to must-win as a mid season game can be for the Ravens.
at first glance, not sure I like this game, but lean to Ravens. Might also consider Bears TT UNDER.
wait why is ravens -7, thats so high. lamar coming back? i know damn sure cooper rush cant cover that LOL. 2ndly, if roquan smith comes back, what about their pass defense!?!?!??!? they are cheeks right now
Lamar, Roquon, and CB Chidobe Awuzie expected back.
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
wait why is ravens -7, thats so high. lamar coming back? i know damn sure cooper rush cant cover that LOL. 2ndly, if roquan smith comes back, what about their pass defense!?!?!??!? they are cheeks right now
Lamar, Roquon, and CB Chidobe Awuzie expected back.
First instinct is to take Bears +7 even though their wins are vs cookie cutters. If Bears defense can get Ravens offense under 30 pts then they have a shot to cover. Can Ravens defense keep the Bears under 20 pts. Tight spread regardless
Sip on that plus money honey!
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First instinct is to take Bears +7 even though their wins are vs cookie cutters. If Bears defense can get Ravens offense under 30 pts then they have a shot to cover. Can Ravens defense keep the Bears under 20 pts. Tight spread regardless
First instinct is to take Bears +7 even though their wins are vs cookie cutters. If Bears defense can get Ravens offense under 30 pts then they have a shot to cover. Can Ravens defense keep the Bears under 20 pts. Tight spread regardless
My first instinct was Ravens -7, the books are talking to us.
If I look at power rankings and stats, the Bears +7 look like a gift from the heavens.
I wasn't going to post about this game, or any of em at all honestly until I saw the crooked #.
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Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:
First instinct is to take Bears +7 even though their wins are vs cookie cutters. If Bears defense can get Ravens offense under 30 pts then they have a shot to cover. Can Ravens defense keep the Bears under 20 pts. Tight spread regardless
My first instinct was Ravens -7, the books are talking to us.
If I look at power rankings and stats, the Bears +7 look like a gift from the heavens.
I wasn't going to post about this game, or any of em at all honestly until I saw the crooked #.
If there are any sdql guys that could look up some stuff I'd appreciate it, but I'm thinking there won't be many results if any...
For the Ravens spot, has there ever been a team to lose 4 in a row and favored by 7 or more points before? Use -6 if it will get more results cause that's what it opened at.
Has a 1-5 team ever been a -6/-7 fav or more?
Throw after the bye week in there as well if you can.
For the Bears, has a team ever won 4 in a row and been dogs of 6 or 7 and more?
How often has a 4-2 team been a dog of 6 or 7 and more? This one should have more results.
Thanks in advance
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If there are any sdql guys that could look up some stuff I'd appreciate it, but I'm thinking there won't be many results if any...
For the Ravens spot, has there ever been a team to lose 4 in a row and favored by 7 or more points before? Use -6 if it will get more results cause that's what it opened at.
Has a 1-5 team ever been a -6/-7 fav or more?
Throw after the bye week in there as well if you can.
For the Bears, has a team ever won 4 in a row and been dogs of 6 or 7 and more?
How often has a 4-2 team been a dog of 6 or 7 and more? This one should have more results.
Unfortunately, being an Illinois resident since birth, I've been a Bear fan since the mid 1960's. It has for the most part always been about defense and the turnovers they create. Sure, when Wally Payton was dressing, the run was critical. The Bear D will have to really step up this weekend!
FIND JESUS/GO DAWGS/5K GOLD/TRIPLE DIGIT SILVER
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Unfortunately, being an Illinois resident since birth, I've been a Bear fan since the mid 1960's. It has for the most part always been about defense and the turnovers they create. Sure, when Wally Payton was dressing, the run was critical. The Bear D will have to really step up this weekend!
Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma: First instinct is to take Bears +7 even though their wins are vs cookie cutters. If Bears defense can get Ravens offense under 30 pts then they have a shot to cover. Can Ravens defense keep the Bears under 20 pts. Tight spread regardless My first instinct was Ravens -7, the books are talking to us. If I look at power rankings and stats, the Bears +7 look like a gift from the heavens. I wasn't going to post about this game, or any of em at all honestly until I saw the crooked #.
Exactly, I'm looking at it from the perspective of the ordinary bettor based on the eye test. I mean +7 why wouldn't someone not take the Bears?
Based on the way these teams are playing this line feels like it should be -5.5. Not sure if the line is a tad higher because of the desperation tax, Lamar being back or the Ravens excellent post bye record but linesmakers and some respected bettors still giving Ravens respect despite their 1-5 start. Im thinking people will gravitate towards Bears later in the week
Sip on that plus money honey!
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma: First instinct is to take Bears +7 even though their wins are vs cookie cutters. If Bears defense can get Ravens offense under 30 pts then they have a shot to cover. Can Ravens defense keep the Bears under 20 pts. Tight spread regardless My first instinct was Ravens -7, the books are talking to us. If I look at power rankings and stats, the Bears +7 look like a gift from the heavens. I wasn't going to post about this game, or any of em at all honestly until I saw the crooked #.
Exactly, I'm looking at it from the perspective of the ordinary bettor based on the eye test. I mean +7 why wouldn't someone not take the Bears?
Based on the way these teams are playing this line feels like it should be -5.5. Not sure if the line is a tad higher because of the desperation tax, Lamar being back or the Ravens excellent post bye record but linesmakers and some respected bettors still giving Ravens respect despite their 1-5 start. Im thinking people will gravitate towards Bears later in the week
@Biscuit "Might also consider Bears TT UNDER." nahhhhhh ravens can still cover the spread and chicago can go over tt at the same time. but i guess we just gotta see what they set that TT at.
current lines @DK are -6’ + 50’
half of total = 25.25
minus half of spread = 3.25
bears TT should be 22 or maybe 21’
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
@Biscuit "Might also consider Bears TT UNDER." nahhhhhh ravens can still cover the spread and chicago can go over tt at the same time. but i guess we just gotta see what they set that TT at.
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