Be careful. Eagles have exact same offense except RG.
I am listing the changes and reasons why I took those dogs:
Eagles changes:
OC: Kellen Moore, out. Promotions and new hires in behind all the offensive positions. There are many offensive coaching changes.
Offensive line:
Becton out 10 million per year to LAC
Instead of me wasting my own time, if you want more info, go find the info on all the Philly offseason changes there are many. I am sure another has does a better job but ill list this one.
its +7 does Philly lose ? Probably not. Does Dallas at some point get a lead I think yes. Id it a Philly cake walk like last year I am betting against it.
Nothing is ever in the bank until it is in the bank
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Quote Originally Posted by tahoejoe2:
Be careful. Eagles have exact same offense except RG.
I am listing the changes and reasons why I took those dogs:
Eagles changes:
OC: Kellen Moore, out. Promotions and new hires in behind all the offensive positions. There are many offensive coaching changes.
Offensive line:
Becton out 10 million per year to LAC
Instead of me wasting my own time, if you want more info, go find the info on all the Philly offseason changes there are many. I am sure another has does a better job but ill list this one.
its +7 does Philly lose ? Probably not. Does Dallas at some point get a lead I think yes. Id it a Philly cake walk like last year I am betting against it.
Quote Originally Posted by tahoejoe2: Be careful. Eagles have exact same offense except RG. I am listing the changes and reasons why I took those dogs: Eagles changes: OC: Kellen Moore, out. Promotions and new hires in behind all the offensive positions. There are many offensive coaching changes. Offensive line: Becton out 10 million per year to LAC Instead of me wasting my own time, if you want more info, go find the info on all the Philly offseason changes there are many. I am sure another has does a better job but ill list this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Philadelphia_Eagles_season then look up Dallas its +7 does Philly lose ? Probably not. Does Dallas at some point get a lead I think yes. Id it a Philly cake walk like last year I am betting against it.
The new OC at Philly was an understudy of Moore. He will probably use most of Moore's playbook.
False statement about all O coaches. The great OL coach is still there. Oh, and we have the tush push. lol
All the new guys in Philly D will have a year in the system. They will only get better.
I'm sorry Dallas and Giants suck. As long as Dallas has Prescott they will go nowhere.
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Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:
Quote Originally Posted by tahoejoe2: Be careful. Eagles have exact same offense except RG. I am listing the changes and reasons why I took those dogs: Eagles changes: OC: Kellen Moore, out. Promotions and new hires in behind all the offensive positions. There are many offensive coaching changes. Offensive line: Becton out 10 million per year to LAC Instead of me wasting my own time, if you want more info, go find the info on all the Philly offseason changes there are many. I am sure another has does a better job but ill list this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Philadelphia_Eagles_season then look up Dallas its +7 does Philly lose ? Probably not. Does Dallas at some point get a lead I think yes. Id it a Philly cake walk like last year I am betting against it.
The new OC at Philly was an understudy of Moore. He will probably use most of Moore's playbook.
False statement about all O coaches. The great OL coach is still there. Oh, and we have the tush push. lol
All the new guys in Philly D will have a year in the system. They will only get better.
I'm sorry Dallas and Giants suck. As long as Dallas has Prescott they will go nowhere.
DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self.
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DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self.
49ers spent a lot of money for Purdy. That should negatively effect the team.
49ers seemed to have invested in their key offensive players (save Deebo). Fred Warner anchors the defense, and I think bringing back Saleh again at DC will get him to develop another solid defensive unit. He is a very overlooked piece IMHO.
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Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:
49ers spent a lot of money for Purdy. That should negatively effect the team.
49ers seemed to have invested in their key offensive players (save Deebo). Fred Warner anchors the defense, and I think bringing back Saleh again at DC will get him to develop another solid defensive unit. He is a very overlooked piece IMHO.
On the Massey Ratings, it's hard to see how BAL moves up to #1 when they've lost arguably the best kicker of all time.... this despite key acquisitions w/ Jaire Alexander and D-Hop.
The Packers at #5 is a real surprise. I wouldn't put them as a top 5 team..
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@Digitalkarma
On the Massey Ratings, it's hard to see how BAL moves up to #1 when they've lost arguably the best kicker of all time.... this despite key acquisitions w/ Jaire Alexander and D-Hop.
The Packers at #5 is a real surprise. I wouldn't put them as a top 5 team..
DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self.
Ignore the talent and roster changes? Really? That’s kind of interesting.
no wonder you don’t post a thread in any forum here. I mean you would establish some credibility here if you did. Instead you just lurk and chime in when you see a mistake or something to give your image a boost. Do as you do bro. Some might say it’s trolling but I guess you’re no different than others here.
Nothing is ever in the bank until it is in the bank
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self.
Ignore the talent and roster changes? Really? That’s kind of interesting.
no wonder you don’t post a thread in any forum here. I mean you would establish some credibility here if you did. Instead you just lurk and chime in when you see a mistake or something to give your image a boost. Do as you do bro. Some might say it’s trolling but I guess you’re no different than others here.
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self. Ignore the talent and roster changes? Really? That’s kind of interesting. no wonder you don’t post a thread in any forum here. I mean you would establish some credibility here if you did. Instead you just lurk and chime in when you see a mistake or something to give your image a boost. Do as you do bro. Some might say it’s trolling but I guess you’re no different than others here.
Another incoherent rant by covers annointed retard. You would think you have been a posted winner here....haha
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Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self. Ignore the talent and roster changes? Really? That’s kind of interesting. no wonder you don’t post a thread in any forum here. I mean you would establish some credibility here if you did. Instead you just lurk and chime in when you see a mistake or something to give your image a boost. Do as you do bro. Some might say it’s trolling but I guess you’re no different than others here.
Another incoherent rant by covers annointed retard. You would think you have been a posted winner here....haha
DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self.
Not too sure how the other teams below the Browns got worse I'd think they made some improvements to their team but maybe not substantial enough. Cleveland still has some talent on the defensive side. Nick Chubb and Amari Cooper aren't on the roster anymore. Maybe it's the Watson effect sounds like he's being benched in favor of Flacco. Pickett is the backup i presume things could change in training camp/preseason. They still have some talent on that squad but had an off year last season. Quite possible this team can bounce back with better than a 3-14 record
I haven't had much time to dig into the majority of teams yet just only some of the top contending teams. I will need a refresher bc I may have forgot some players that signed to new teams in free agency
Sip on that plus money honey!
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self.
Not too sure how the other teams below the Browns got worse I'd think they made some improvements to their team but maybe not substantial enough. Cleveland still has some talent on the defensive side. Nick Chubb and Amari Cooper aren't on the roster anymore. Maybe it's the Watson effect sounds like he's being benched in favor of Flacco. Pickett is the backup i presume things could change in training camp/preseason. They still have some talent on that squad but had an off year last season. Quite possible this team can bounce back with better than a 3-14 record
I haven't had much time to dig into the majority of teams yet just only some of the top contending teams. I will need a refresher bc I may have forgot some players that signed to new teams in free agency
@Digitalkarma On the Massey Ratings, it's hard to see how BAL moves up to #1 when they've lost arguably the best kicker of all time.... this despite key acquisitions w/ Jaire Alexander and D-Hop. The Packers at #5 is a real surprise. I wouldn't put them as a top 5 team..
That is definitely a concern. It seemed like Tucker was bouncing back from his early season struggles after the bye week. But kinda hard to tell, they didn't play deep enough into the playoffs for us to find out if he would choke one. Went 5 of 5 on FG a few 50 yarders and 23 of 23 on XP in last 5 games.
The new rookie kicker they drafted Tyler Loop has been spotty in minicamp...
Hopefully offense is good enough to where they don't need to rely on kicker as much as they once did..
Sip on that plus money honey!
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:
@Digitalkarma On the Massey Ratings, it's hard to see how BAL moves up to #1 when they've lost arguably the best kicker of all time.... this despite key acquisitions w/ Jaire Alexander and D-Hop. The Packers at #5 is a real surprise. I wouldn't put them as a top 5 team..
That is definitely a concern. It seemed like Tucker was bouncing back from his early season struggles after the bye week. But kinda hard to tell, they didn't play deep enough into the playoffs for us to find out if he would choke one. Went 5 of 5 on FG a few 50 yarders and 23 of 23 on XP in last 5 games.
The new rookie kicker they drafted Tyler Loop has been spotty in minicamp...
Hopefully offense is good enough to where they don't need to rely on kicker as much as they once did..
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self. Ignore the talent and roster changes? Really? That’s kind of interesting. no wonder you don’t post a thread in any forum here. I mean you would establish some credibility here if you did. Instead you just lurk and chime in when you see a mistake or something to give your image a boost. Do as you do bro. Some might say it’s trolling but I guess you’re no different than others here.
I never threw a hissy fit when you tried to improve one of my queries. I am beginning to understand why jowchoo finds you so nasty and abrasive.
This forum is supposed to be a cooperative effort by congenial people. Your behavior is sorely lacking.
You have some sharp things to say. You can say them without the pointed barbs.
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Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self. Ignore the talent and roster changes? Really? That’s kind of interesting. no wonder you don’t post a thread in any forum here. I mean you would establish some credibility here if you did. Instead you just lurk and chime in when you see a mistake or something to give your image a boost. Do as you do bro. Some might say it’s trolling but I guess you’re no different than others here.
I never threw a hissy fit when you tried to improve one of my queries. I am beginning to understand why jowchoo finds you so nasty and abrasive.
This forum is supposed to be a cooperative effort by congenial people. Your behavior is sorely lacking.
You have some sharp things to say. You can say them without the pointed barbs.
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self. Not too sure how the other teams below the Browns got worse I'd think they made some improvements to their team but maybe not substantial enough. Cleveland still has some talent on the defensive side. Nick Chubb and Amari Cooper aren't on the roster anymore. Maybe it's the Watson effect sounds like he's being benched in favor of Flacco. Pickett is the backup i presume things could change in training camp/preseason. They still have some talent on that squad but had an off year last season. Quite possible this team can bounce back with better than a 3-14 record I haven't had much time to dig into the majority of teams yet just only some of the top contending teams. I will need a refresher bc I may have forgot some players that signed to new teams in free agency
Thanks for your observations. Even if CLV improves by 3 wins, they'll only finish 6-11. Not much cause for optimism.
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Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: DK, I don't pour over rosters, so maybe you have a better idea why Massey boosted CLV from 30 to 27. I did read that their draft was generally highly rated, but FTN Fantasy has CLV's OFF line ranked #30. It's hard to imagine ANY of CLV's shaky QB crew thriving behind those paper tigers, and Nick Chubb is just a shadow of his former self. Not too sure how the other teams below the Browns got worse I'd think they made some improvements to their team but maybe not substantial enough. Cleveland still has some talent on the defensive side. Nick Chubb and Amari Cooper aren't on the roster anymore. Maybe it's the Watson effect sounds like he's being benched in favor of Flacco. Pickett is the backup i presume things could change in training camp/preseason. They still have some talent on that squad but had an off year last season. Quite possible this team can bounce back with better than a 3-14 record I haven't had much time to dig into the majority of teams yet just only some of the top contending teams. I will need a refresher bc I may have forgot some players that signed to new teams in free agency
Thanks for your observations. Even if CLV improves by 3 wins, they'll only finish 6-11. Not much cause for optimism.
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that is my early lean as well. 
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