• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | NFL Betting Forum

    NFL Primer - Key Numbers and how they have changed over the years and why it is important....

    12 Next Last»
    vanzack
    pvr2022
    Surfrancis123
    umgmu
    DoubleUp4Life
    ...
    Participants:
    Search model icon
    Views: 4552
    Posts: 48
    12 Next Last»
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:21 PM ET #1

    We often talk about "key numbers" when betting football - these are line numbers that are the most important because they are the most common result numbers.

    The NFL has changed with the 2 point conversion and with more modern approaches to strategy decisions.  Have key numbers changed also?

    Below is a chart (unfortunately, covers 1998 technology doesnt let me post a chart without it being a garbled mess so I will type it out and do my best) that shows the full seasons (including playoffs) for 2010 and 2021 (current), and the most common margin of victory:

    Margin of victory, Times it happened in that season, percentage of that margin vs all games played that season

                   2010                                                                   2021
    1.           3, 47, 16.5%                                             3, 43, 15.1%
    2.           7, 18, 6.3%                                               6, 20, 7.0%
    3.           4, 16, 5.6%                                               7, 19, 6.7%
    4.           10, 15, 5.3%                                             2, 16, 5.6%
    5.           14, 13, 4.6%                                             10, 16, 5.6%
    6.           6, 12, 4.2%                                               4, 11, 3.9%
    7.           8, 10, 3.5%                                               8, 11, 3.9%
    8.           18, 10, 3.5%                                             15, 10, 3.5%
    9.           5, 10, 3.5%                                               12, 9, 3.2%
    10.         2, 9, 3.2%                                                 14, 9, 3.2% 

     

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    6
    Report User
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    We often talk about "key numbers" when betting football - these are line numbers that are the most important because they are the most common result numbers.

    The NFL has changed with the 2 point conversion and with more modern approaches to strategy decisions.  Have key numbers changed also?

    Below is a chart (unfortunately, covers 1998 technology doesnt let me post a chart without it being a garbled mess so I will type it out and do my best) that shows the full seasons (including playoffs) for 2010 and 2021 (current), and the most common margin of victory:

    Margin of victory, Times it happened in that season, percentage of that margin vs all games played that season

                   2010                                                                   2021
    1.           3, 47, 16.5%                                             3, 43, 15.1%
    2.           7, 18, 6.3%                                               6, 20, 7.0%
    3.           4, 16, 5.6%                                               7, 19, 6.7%
    4.           10, 15, 5.3%                                             2, 16, 5.6%
    5.           14, 13, 4.6%                                             10, 16, 5.6%
    6.           6, 12, 4.2%                                               4, 11, 3.9%
    7.           8, 10, 3.5%                                               8, 11, 3.9%
    8.           18, 10, 3.5%                                             15, 10, 3.5%
    9.           5, 10, 3.5%                                               12, 9, 3.2%
    10.         2, 9, 3.2%                                                 14, 9, 3.2% 

     

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:22 PM ET #2

    Some things jump out.  If I would have asked before posting this how many times an NFL game lands on 2 would anyone have said top 4?  Look at the increase from 2010 to 2021 for 2.  Who would have guessed that there were more games that landed on 6 (2nd in 2021) than 7, or even that 6 was close to 7?

    But it is always important to remember PRICE and SPREAD = THE LINE.  They cannot be separated.  Betting -3.5 at -120 is not getting -3.5.  You ALWAYS have a choice to get off of the "primary" (-110) line the book is giving you - do you know when and why you should be doing it?  Important betting skill.

    GL all.

    peace_5

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    3
    Report User

    Some things jump out.  If I would have asked before posting this how many times an NFL game lands on 2 would anyone have said top 4?  Look at the increase from 2010 to 2021 for 2.  Who would have guessed that there were more games that landed on 6 (2nd in 2021) than 7, or even that 6 was close to 7?

    But it is always important to remember PRICE and SPREAD = THE LINE.  They cannot be separated.  Betting -3.5 at -120 is not getting -3.5.  You ALWAYS have a choice to get off of the "primary" (-110) line the book is giving you - do you know when and why you should be doing it?  Important betting skill.

    GL all.

    peace_5

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:24 PM ET #3

    Tonight is a great example.

    If you can get the Bills at -2 for 5 cents more than -2.5 (bookmaker for example), it is a wise buy.

    2 is a key number now.

     

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    5
    Report User

    Tonight is a great example.

    If you can get the Bills at -2 for 5 cents more than -2.5 (bookmaker for example), it is a wise buy.

    2 is a key number now.

     

     
    pvr2022
    pvr2022
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2022
    Posts: 113
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:25 PM ET #4

    an_shake

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    an_shake

     
    Surfrancis123
    Surfrancis123
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2021
    Posts: 775
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:28 PM ET #5

    @vanzack

     Great stats Van. Thank you man !!!

    Surfrancis
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    @vanzack

     Great stats Van. Thank you man !!!

     
    umgmu
    umgmu
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2005
    Posts: 47621
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:28 PM ET #6

    @vanzack

     Excellent comments

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    @vanzack

     Excellent comments

     
    DoubleUp4Life
    DoubleUp4Life
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2007
    Posts: 66896
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:34 PM ET #7

    Thank you 

    One or the very best to ever post on the interweb an_praisean_praise

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Thank you 

    One or the very best to ever post on the interweb an_praisean_praise

     
    undermysac
    undermysac
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2014
    Posts: 52184
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 5:40 PM ET #8

    If I had to guess, it's because the NFL moved the yardage on extra points. It's not a gimme anymore 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    1
    Report User

    If I had to guess, it's because the NFL moved the yardage on extra points. It's not a gimme anymore 

     
    avenue
    avenue
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2010
    Posts: 7615
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 6:39 PM ET #9

    agree for the NFL, good stats

     

     

    different application for college 

     

    stack bills pal 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    agree for the NFL, good stats

     

     

    different application for college 

     

    stack bills pal 

     
    LionsIn2023
    LionsIn2023
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2022
    Posts: 754
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 6:45 PM ET #10

    @vanzack

     Vanzack the man who always attacks

    he's a legend definitely worth a mention

    he comes with a fury and he won't hurry

    Take off on your 40 he's gonna forage 

    he's coming for the bookies money

    gonna run up on ya and yell

    I'm Vanzack leader of the pack

    WELCOME BACK

    Reply
    Quote Post
    3
    Report User

    @vanzack

     Vanzack the man who always attacks

    he's a legend definitely worth a mention

    he comes with a fury and he won't hurry

    Take off on your 40 he's gonna forage 

    he's coming for the bookies money

    gonna run up on ya and yell

    I'm Vanzack leader of the pack

    WELCOME BACK

     
    Rush51
    Rush51
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2005
    Posts: 8840
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 7:27 PM ET #11

    If that's a new 'rap I'm all aboard.  lol.   an_policeman

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    If that's a new 'rap I'm all aboard.  lol.   an_policeman

     
    MudPhud3
    MudPhud3
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2016
    Posts: 2756
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 9:17 PM ET #12

    Excellent info and analysis (entering the chart must have been painful - kudos).

     

     

    This thread will change how I cap - a very rare occurence on Covers these days. Thank you for posting.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    1
    Report User

    Excellent info and analysis (entering the chart must have been painful - kudos).

     

     

    This thread will change how I cap - a very rare occurence on Covers these days. Thank you for posting.

     
    camby700
    camby700
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2011
    Posts: 33948
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 9:21 PM ET #13

    peace_5

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    peace_5

     
    LionsIn2023
    LionsIn2023
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2022
    Posts: 754
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 9:28 PM ET #14

    @Rush51

     haha yup 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    @Rush51

     haha yup 

     
    buttas
    buttas
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2020
    Posts: 3682
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 9:35 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Some things jump out.  If I would have asked before posting this how many times an NFL game lands on 2 would anyone have said top 4?  Look at the increase from 2010 to 2021 for 2.  Who would have guessed that there were more games that landed on 6 (2nd in 2021) than 7, or even that 6 was close to 7? But it is always important to remember PRICE and SPREAD = THE LINE.  They cannot be separated.  Betting -3.5 at -120 is not getting -3.5.  You ALWAYS have a choice to get off of the "primary" (-110) line the book is giving you - do you know when and why you should be doing it?  Important betting skill. GL all.

    can you explain this a little further for us dummies? 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Some things jump out.  If I would have asked before posting this how many times an NFL game lands on 2 would anyone have said top 4?  Look at the increase from 2010 to 2021 for 2.  Who would have guessed that there were more games that landed on 6 (2nd in 2021) than 7, or even that 6 was close to 7? But it is always important to remember PRICE and SPREAD = THE LINE.  They cannot be separated.  Betting -3.5 at -120 is not getting -3.5.  You ALWAYS have a choice to get off of the "primary" (-110) line the book is giving you - do you know when and why you should be doing it?  Important betting skill. GL all.

    can you explain this a little further for us dummies? 

     
    wolfeman3
    wolfeman3
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2008
    Posts: 6283
    Posted: Sep. 8, 2022 - 9:38 PM ET #16

    an_light Outstanding 

    The impossible only takes longer….
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    an_light Outstanding 

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Sep. 9, 2022 - 8:42 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023:

    @vanzack  Vanzack the man who always attacks he's a legend definitely worth a mention he comes with a fury and he won't hurry Take off on your 40 he's gonna forage  he's coming for the bookies money gonna run up on ya and yell I'm Vanzack leader of the pack WELCOME BACK

    an_praise

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023:

    @vanzack  Vanzack the man who always attacks he's a legend definitely worth a mention he comes with a fury and he won't hurry Take off on your 40 he's gonna forage  he's coming for the bookies money gonna run up on ya and yell I'm Vanzack leader of the pack WELCOME BACK

    an_praise

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Sep. 9, 2022 - 8:48 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:   Betting -3.5 at -120 is not getting -3.5.  You ALWAYS have a choice to get off of the "primary" (-110) line the book is giving you - do you know when and why you should be doing it?  Important betting skill. GL all. can you explain this a little further for us dummies?

    Sure...

    Every book proposes what I call a "primary line".  This is the line that is put forth as the posted line by the book.  But at most online books, and physical books - you have the opportunity to bet a range of spreads around that primary line.

    So if a last nights line was lets say Bills -2.5 -110 on each side.  But you can get Bills -2 for -113, or Bills -3 for +110.  Which of those 3 is the best option?  The spread / price combination should determine which one you select to wager on - not the "I need to win this bet today" mentality.

    If you always bet the best spread / price combination in terms of value - you will be better off over the course of a season.  I realize that on one single bet, if that was the only bet you would ever make - it is less likely to win that bet at -3 than -2, but over the course of a season - at the right price - betting the best spread / price combination is always in your best interest.

    The chart above can help you determine what numbers are worth what value in terms of price.

    peace_5

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by buttas:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:   Betting -3.5 at -120 is not getting -3.5.  You ALWAYS have a choice to get off of the "primary" (-110) line the book is giving you - do you know when and why you should be doing it?  Important betting skill. GL all. can you explain this a little further for us dummies?

    Sure...

    Every book proposes what I call a "primary line".  This is the line that is put forth as the posted line by the book.  But at most online books, and physical books - you have the opportunity to bet a range of spreads around that primary line.

    So if a last nights line was lets say Bills -2.5 -110 on each side.  But you can get Bills -2 for -113, or Bills -3 for +110.  Which of those 3 is the best option?  The spread / price combination should determine which one you select to wager on - not the "I need to win this bet today" mentality.

    If you always bet the best spread / price combination in terms of value - you will be better off over the course of a season.  I realize that on one single bet, if that was the only bet you would ever make - it is less likely to win that bet at -3 than -2, but over the course of a season - at the right price - betting the best spread / price combination is always in your best interest.

    The chart above can help you determine what numbers are worth what value in terms of price.

    peace_5

     
    DW7
    DW7
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2008
    Posts: 2650
    Posted: Sep. 9, 2022 - 8:50 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023:

    @vanzack  Vanzack the man who always attacks he's a legend definitely worth a mention he comes with a fury and he won't hurry Take off on your 40 he's gonna forage  he's coming for the bookies money gonna run up on ya and yell I'm Vanzack leader of the pack WELCOME BACK

    We need some Rap music for this one ! Right on point an_clap

    "Stop chasing the money and start chasing the passion."
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023:

    @vanzack  Vanzack the man who always attacks he's a legend definitely worth a mention he comes with a fury and he won't hurry Take off on your 40 he's gonna forage  he's coming for the bookies money gonna run up on ya and yell I'm Vanzack leader of the pack WELCOME BACK

    We need some Rap music for this one ! Right on point an_clap

     
    dimndimn
    dimndimn
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2006
    Posts: 5291
    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 6:25 PM ET #20

    peace_5

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    peace_5

     
    ChOmP
    ChOmP
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2012
    Posts: 3114
    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 6:42 PM ET #21

    @vanzack

     peace_5

    Winning isn’t everything.. It’s the Only thing.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    @vanzack

     peace_5

     
    JimmyGape
    JimmyGape
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2018
    Posts: 4860
    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 8:33 PM ET #22

    vanzack just continues to be balls deep insiide the industry.

     

    Thank you sir and BOL to you  an_cheers

    Reply
    Quote Post
    4
    Report User

    vanzack just continues to be balls deep insiide the industry.

     

    Thank you sir and BOL to you  an_cheers

     
    DogbiteWilliams
    DogbiteWilliams
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2015
    Posts: 6428
    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 9:03 PM ET #23

    Sharp research; thanks.  They have discussed this on Daily Wager, so I already knew about the declining importance of 4.  What really shocked me was that 15 was more common than 14 last season.

    Any margins combined with any other parameters (away/home, favorite/dog, off a win/loss) can be researched at Killer Sports as long as you know SDQL.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Sharp research; thanks.  They have discussed this on Daily Wager, so I already knew about the declining importance of 4.  What really shocked me was that 15 was more common than 14 last season.

    Any margins combined with any other parameters (away/home, favorite/dog, off a win/loss) can be researched at Killer Sports as long as you know SDQL.

     
    User854910
    User854910
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2018
    Posts: 4581
    Posted: Oct. 19, 2022 - 9:06 PM ET #24

    Post Deleted
    Don't let the book set the number
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Post Deleted
     
     
    wolfeman3
    wolfeman3
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2008
    Posts: 6283
    Posted: Oct. 20, 2022 - 4:08 AM ET #25

    @dimndimn

     

     Appreciate you finding this gem… thumbs_up

    +/- 2pts is the new 3… Not quite, but Books aren’t taxing it like 3 or 7 when buying a half point around key numbers. an_light

    This season in particular, moving off +1.5 to +2 has helped save me with some fortunate pushes (which is insurance imo). At the same time -1.5 over -2 has become important.  Books are also placing a lot of -2.5’s out there making you believe you’re getting a helluva half pt….an_shake.  With XP’s as shady as ever, and coaches gambling with the going for 2 and with success, the 1-2 pt winning results will continue to be the Norm imo. 

    thanks again DimnDim

    The impossible only takes longer….
    Reply
    Quote Post
    1
    Report User

    @dimndimn

     

     Appreciate you finding this gem… thumbs_up

    +/- 2pts is the new 3… Not quite, but Books aren’t taxing it like 3 or 7 when buying a half point around key numbers. an_light

    This season in particular, moving off +1.5 to +2 has helped save me with some fortunate pushes (which is insurance imo). At the same time -1.5 over -2 has become important.  Books are also placing a lot of -2.5’s out there making you believe you’re getting a helluva half pt….an_shake.  With XP’s as shady as ever, and coaches gambling with the going for 2 and with success, the 1-2 pt winning results will continue to be the Norm imo. 

    thanks again DimnDim

    All Forums | NFL Betting Forum
    12 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 445,789 Covers arrow
    • Tuesday 09/08/2026 977 Covers arrow
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 253,251 Covers arrow
    • Couple thoughts 3,963 Covers arrow
    • 9/8 POD 🔥🔥???? 3,462 Covers arrow
    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 57,291 Covers arrow
    • Tuesday 2,842 Covers arrow
    • Breathtaking ....truly 20,481 Covers arrow
    • PART DEUX 217 Covers arrow
    • Obviously the true face of the republican party 30,560 Covers arrow

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 CS Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.