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    MIA/RAMS Why the FG on 3rd?

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 7:36 AM ET #1

    Can someone explain why you would kick a FG on 3rd and 10 instead of taking another shot at a TD from the 10-yard line that would take less than 5 seconds?

    I understand they were down and needed an onside kick .... but 3rd down FG?

    I played the under 39.5 at HT so I am not complaining .... but dang. 

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    Can someone explain why you would kick a FG on 3rd and 10 instead of taking another shot at a TD from the 10-yard line that would take less than 5 seconds?

    I understand they were down and needed an onside kick .... but 3rd down FG?

    I played the under 39.5 at HT so I am not complaining .... but dang. 

     
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    They only had one timeout and, I think, around 40 seconds on the clock. They also needed to successfully recover an onside kick and then score again. It was a time management thing. If you score the touchdown first, then the time needed for the conversion attempt comes off the clock. If you kick a FG and then recover and score a touchdown, then you can score the TD with nothing left on the clock and the conversion attempt is cost-free in terms of time management. 

     

    The greater question is why the endzone pass(es?) before the FG. I think there were 2. If McVay was going with the time management strategy, he should have kicked the FG as soon as they were in FG range. But if I remember correctly (ha!) there were 2 TD pass attempts from the same spot they kicked the field goal from. 

     

    It's like McVay shifted strategies abruptly for some reason. If he had kicked the FG on first down, the rest would make more sense. (He probably has a number in his head that told him to take the endzone shots until a certain time left on the clock.) But yeah, a head scratching set of downs on the last Rams possession.

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    They only had one timeout and, I think, around 40 seconds on the clock. They also needed to successfully recover an onside kick and then score again. It was a time management thing. If you score the touchdown first, then the time needed for the conversion attempt comes off the clock. If you kick a FG and then recover and score a touchdown, then you can score the TD with nothing left on the clock and the conversion attempt is cost-free in terms of time management. 

     

    The greater question is why the endzone pass(es?) before the FG. I think there were 2. If McVay was going with the time management strategy, he should have kicked the FG as soon as they were in FG range. But if I remember correctly (ha!) there were 2 TD pass attempts from the same spot they kicked the field goal from. 

     

    It's like McVay shifted strategies abruptly for some reason. If he had kicked the FG on first down, the rest would make more sense. (He probably has a number in his head that told him to take the endzone shots until a certain time left on the clock.) But yeah, a head scratching set of downs on the last Rams possession.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTsCrazedDog:

    They only had one timeout and, I think, around 40 seconds on the clock. They also needed to successfully recover an onside kick and then score again. It was a time management thing. If you score the touchdown first, then the time needed for the conversion attempt comes off the clock. If you kick a FG and then recover and score a touchdown, then you can score the TD with nothing left on the clock and the conversion attempt is cost-free in terms of time management.    The greater question is why the endzone pass(es?) before the FG. I think there were 2. If McVay was going with the time management strategy, he should have kicked the FG as soon as they were in FG range. But if I remember correctly (ha!) there were 2 TD pass attempts from the same spot they kicked the field goal from.    It's like McVay shifted strategies abruptly for some reason. If he had kicked the FG on first down, the rest would make more sense. (He probably has a number in his head that told him to take the endzone shots until a certain time left on the clock.) But yeah, a head scratching set of downs on the last Rams possession.


    There were multiple instances of this idiocy on the last drive by the rams. I agree with everything you said here. The thing that really made me laugh was that three plays before the field goal they called a run play with less than 1:30 on a running clock. They either had one or zero timeouts at that point I can’t remember. 

    I can never understand why a coach decides for a field goal down at or inside the 10 yard line in this situation. You need two scores. You have taken all the time off the clock to drive down to the 10 yard line. You are 10 YDS FROM A TD.You now have used so much of the clock that even if you kick a field goal and recover an onside kick you will only have time for a Hail Mary. Why not just go for the endzone and if you don’t get in you lost? If you do, then you have a small but reasonable amount of time to get the onside and try to get into long fg range. If the FG is even on your mind you cannot kick it after you burn 45 seconds off the clock. You have to do it immediately when you’re in your kickers comfortable range. And calling a run play in that situation? You cannot be serious…

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTsCrazedDog:

    They only had one timeout and, I think, around 40 seconds on the clock. They also needed to successfully recover an onside kick and then score again. It was a time management thing. If you score the touchdown first, then the time needed for the conversion attempt comes off the clock. If you kick a FG and then recover and score a touchdown, then you can score the TD with nothing left on the clock and the conversion attempt is cost-free in terms of time management.    The greater question is why the endzone pass(es?) before the FG. I think there were 2. If McVay was going with the time management strategy, he should have kicked the FG as soon as they were in FG range. But if I remember correctly (ha!) there were 2 TD pass attempts from the same spot they kicked the field goal from.    It's like McVay shifted strategies abruptly for some reason. If he had kicked the FG on first down, the rest would make more sense. (He probably has a number in his head that told him to take the endzone shots until a certain time left on the clock.) But yeah, a head scratching set of downs on the last Rams possession.


    There were multiple instances of this idiocy on the last drive by the rams. I agree with everything you said here. The thing that really made me laugh was that three plays before the field goal they called a run play with less than 1:30 on a running clock. They either had one or zero timeouts at that point I can’t remember. 

    I can never understand why a coach decides for a field goal down at or inside the 10 yard line in this situation. You need two scores. You have taken all the time off the clock to drive down to the 10 yard line. You are 10 YDS FROM A TD.You now have used so much of the clock that even if you kick a field goal and recover an onside kick you will only have time for a Hail Mary. Why not just go for the endzone and if you don’t get in you lost? If you do, then you have a small but reasonable amount of time to get the onside and try to get into long fg range. If the FG is even on your mind you cannot kick it after you burn 45 seconds off the clock. You have to do it immediately when you’re in your kickers comfortable range. And calling a run play in that situation? You cannot be serious…

     

     
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    OMG I forgot about that run play. WTF, SMH, more letters needed. 

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    OMG I forgot about that run play. WTF, SMH, more letters needed. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTsCrazedDog:

    OMG I forgot about that run play. WTF, SMH, more letters needed.

    He also called a run play earlier in the drive that resulted in a holding call!!!! How can you possibly be that stupid? Less than two minutes, down two scores and you’re calling run plays? With no timeouts?!? Unreal. The boneheaded things you see these coaches do every single week in the NFL is amazing to watch. These guys are supposedly the best in the world at this job…

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTsCrazedDog:

    OMG I forgot about that run play. WTF, SMH, more letters needed.

    He also called a run play earlier in the drive that resulted in a holding call!!!! How can you possibly be that stupid? Less than two minutes, down two scores and you’re calling run plays? With no timeouts?!? Unreal. The boneheaded things you see these coaches do every single week in the NFL is amazing to watch. These guys are supposedly the best in the world at this job…

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