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    Bills @ Patriots: It's put up or shut up time for Rex. Win now or the guillotine rope gets greased

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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 11:51 AM ET #1

    2016 Record: 18-6 (75%)


    The Pick: Bills +160 over Patriots

    The angle: You heard it all week. The Bills have made overtures to Tom Coughlin. Rex knows it. The owners know its out there. The fans knows it. Tom isn't getting the job but now that that leak has sprung, if Rex sits back and says "Come what may" it will be like putting his finger in a leak in the Hoover Dam.

    If you cannot beat Jacoby Brissett today at 1-2 and you fall to 1-3, you deserve to be fired as does your brother and several others.

    Yes, the Bills come in the walking wounded but they were the walking wounded last week against Arizona, and on life support, they played sensational.

    Know this: Rex will throw the kitchen sink at Brissett today. He has enough blitz packages to keep the score low and steal this one today in Foxborough.  And if he doesn't? He's done. That's enough motivation with a coach that has the players behind his psychologically to take the Bills here. End of story.

    It's much like the Nevada game (9 am body clock, you have a bye to prepare) vs. Purdue. Lose that game and just the symbolism of loss in that spot will cost you your job. Today if you lose to a third stringer, regardless of what he did to the Texans, it will likely end your coaching career. That's much more than a game folks. It may not happen today but by the end of the year it is basically certain he is done. 1-3 teams losing to third stringers are done in terms of the playoffs.

    Many here LOVE the fade the "Star Out other players Step Up" theory and that theory works...in the right situation.

    We know what Brissett is. I'll take Taylor and his legs, in addition to ever increasing pressure to improve his passing game, over   17-28 for 195 yards. The star has BEEN out. This is not game one. The Pats have been functioning as one of the best teams in the league with Tom. That theory does not apply to the Pats today.

    What pressure is on the Pats here? They fall to 3-1 if they lose, still have a stranglehold on this division and are getting Brady back. Mr. Hoodie would sign up for that every day of the week before the season. No major psychological edges for the Pats here.

    You can't fade a wounded dog here folks. Despite what you think, the Pats are not the wounded dogs. You are not 'wounded' psychologically at 3-0. The Bills are wounded. And this is their season. And they get it against a third stringer who played admirably but still has one career start. And you have Rex to gameplan against that.

    And you have to take that no matter your/like dislike of Rex because he gets his team to play for him when it matters, just like he did against Arizona last week.

    Bills get a nice shot in the arm on Monday with Darues and Henderson coming off inactive. So they can get a boost here with a win and one their best coming back or lose it all. I'll bet on Rex to take it down. In the right spot, he'll come through. Today is that day. No metrics, just the psychological situation.

    I don't care if this line was 7.5 at one time with Garrapolo starting. I'm fine with taking the 100% of my bet + 60%. There is not time to be fooling with spreads today. It's win it all or go home for Rex and the bettor.

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    2016 Record: 18-6 (75%)


    The Pick: Bills +160 over Patriots

    The angle: You heard it all week. The Bills have made overtures to Tom Coughlin. Rex knows it. The owners know its out there. The fans knows it. Tom isn't getting the job but now that that leak has sprung, if Rex sits back and says "Come what may" it will be like putting his finger in a leak in the Hoover Dam.

    If you cannot beat Jacoby Brissett today at 1-2 and you fall to 1-3, you deserve to be fired as does your brother and several others.

    Yes, the Bills come in the walking wounded but they were the walking wounded last week against Arizona, and on life support, they played sensational.

    Know this: Rex will throw the kitchen sink at Brissett today. He has enough blitz packages to keep the score low and steal this one today in Foxborough.  And if he doesn't? He's done. That's enough motivation with a coach that has the players behind his psychologically to take the Bills here. End of story.

    It's much like the Nevada game (9 am body clock, you have a bye to prepare) vs. Purdue. Lose that game and just the symbolism of loss in that spot will cost you your job. Today if you lose to a third stringer, regardless of what he did to the Texans, it will likely end your coaching career. That's much more than a game folks. It may not happen today but by the end of the year it is basically certain he is done. 1-3 teams losing to third stringers are done in terms of the playoffs.

    Many here LOVE the fade the "Star Out other players Step Up" theory and that theory works...in the right situation.

    We know what Brissett is. I'll take Taylor and his legs, in addition to ever increasing pressure to improve his passing game, over   17-28 for 195 yards. The star has BEEN out. This is not game one. The Pats have been functioning as one of the best teams in the league with Tom. That theory does not apply to the Pats today.

    What pressure is on the Pats here? They fall to 3-1 if they lose, still have a stranglehold on this division and are getting Brady back. Mr. Hoodie would sign up for that every day of the week before the season. No major psychological edges for the Pats here.

    You can't fade a wounded dog here folks. Despite what you think, the Pats are not the wounded dogs. You are not 'wounded' psychologically at 3-0. The Bills are wounded. And this is their season. And they get it against a third stringer who played admirably but still has one career start. And you have Rex to gameplan against that.

    And you have to take that no matter your/like dislike of Rex because he gets his team to play for him when it matters, just like he did against Arizona last week.

    Bills get a nice shot in the arm on Monday with Darues and Henderson coming off inactive. So they can get a boost here with a win and one their best coming back or lose it all. I'll bet on Rex to take it down. In the right spot, he'll come through. Today is that day. No metrics, just the psychological situation.

    I don't care if this line was 7.5 at one time with Garrapolo starting. I'm fine with taking the 100% of my bet + 60%. There is not time to be fooling with spreads today. It's win it all or go home for Rex and the bettor.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 11:53 AM ET #2

    Thanks for all your time and hard work.
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    window.post_1475423536320_3 = function(win,msg){ win.postMessage(msg,"*"); }window.post_1475423539899_16 = function(win,msg){ win.postMessage(msg,"*"); }Typo: The Pats have been functioning as one of the best teams in the league withOUT Tom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolty:

    Thanks for all your time and hard work.
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    Thanks for all your time and hard work.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 11:57 AM ET #5

    No way patriots are going 4-0 without Tom Brady! Lets get em Scal!
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    No way patriots are going 4-0 without Tom Brady! Lets get em Scal!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 12:00 PM ET #7

    bills are way to injured and bellichek way to smart to let mccoy beat the pats.... pats don't lose at home.... pats are angry at the nfl...every game they are trying to beat teams by 50 points to prove a point....i can see pats going undefeated this year....their defines is the real deal and no one can stop blount he's just to big
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    bills are way to injured and bellichek way to smart to let mccoy beat the pats.... pats don't lose at home.... pats are angry at the nfl...every game they are trying to beat teams by 50 points to prove a point....i can see pats going undefeated this year....their defines is the real deal and no one can stop blount he's just to big
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 12:01 PM ET #8

    BOL SCAL 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanKing23:

    No way patriots are going 4-0 without Tom Brady! Lets get em Scal!


    BUT Just Think if it Happens??

    Just Like Dak Prescott for Dallas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanKing23:

    No way patriots are going 4-0 without Tom Brady! Lets get em Scal!


    BUT Just Think if it Happens??

    Just Like Dak Prescott for Dallas...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe_V24:

    bills are way to injured and bellichek way to smart to let mccoy beat the pats.... pats don't lose at home.... pats are angry at the nfl...every game they are trying to beat teams by 50 points to prove a point....i can see pats going undefeated this year....their defines is the real deal and no one can stop blount he's just to big

    So your angle is the Pats are 'angry at the nfl' for something, if you really look at the evidence and are honest with yourself, Brady was fully involved with.

    And you'll take that angle over the motivation from a coach about to lose his job. This we know for certain. Your angle? Even if it is known, I'd be a lot less angry at 3-0.

    Guys here rub their hands together in nervousness because they don't like the OP. They want metrics. They want power rankings. They want names and stats.

    Sometimes, you'll get none of that and you'll still have to put bets in. This is one of those times. And these angles work. Why? Because they assess the unquantifiable which overrides the quantifiable stats.

    I was going ML today at 7.5/7 or 3.5 so the line movement doesn't bother me in the least. Garrapolo, who will be Brady's heir, bothered me. Brissett does not. Belichik will stack the box today to stifle Buffalo's run game but the Bills do not have time to toe the line today. Attack or lose everything. I'll take that on the ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe_V24:

    bills are way to injured and bellichek way to smart to let mccoy beat the pats.... pats don't lose at home.... pats are angry at the nfl...every game they are trying to beat teams by 50 points to prove a point....i can see pats going undefeated this year....their defines is the real deal and no one can stop blount he's just to big

    So your angle is the Pats are 'angry at the nfl' for something, if you really look at the evidence and are honest with yourself, Brady was fully involved with.

    And you'll take that angle over the motivation from a coach about to lose his job. This we know for certain. Your angle? Even if it is known, I'd be a lot less angry at 3-0.

    Guys here rub their hands together in nervousness because they don't like the OP. They want metrics. They want power rankings. They want names and stats.

    Sometimes, you'll get none of that and you'll still have to put bets in. This is one of those times. And these angles work. Why? Because they assess the unquantifiable which overrides the quantifiable stats.

    I was going ML today at 7.5/7 or 3.5 so the line movement doesn't bother me in the least. Garrapolo, who will be Brady's heir, bothered me. Brissett does not. Belichik will stack the box today to stifle Buffalo's run game but the Bills do not have time to toe the line today. Attack or lose everything. I'll take that on the ML.

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    Scal, been sitting here all morning pondering this game and then this post appears like a beacon in the night (wow that was an awful turn of phrase). This is a very gritty pick (even for you) but I admire your will. But I can not argue with your logic about Rexy and his job. I could not explain how (certainly not as well as you can) they will do it, but I feel the Bills will get this done today (somehow). I am riding with ya again! GL!
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    Scal, been sitting here all morning pondering this game and then this post appears like a beacon in the night (wow that was an awful turn of phrase). This is a very gritty pick (even for you) but I admire your will. But I can not argue with your logic about Rexy and his job. I could not explain how (certainly not as well as you can) they will do it, but I feel the Bills will get this done today (somehow). I am riding with ya again! GL!
     
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    I like this pick 
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    Agreed!! Buffalo wins

    It ain't over til it's over
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    Agreed!! Buffalo wins

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 12:25 PM ET #15

    if you can't beat Brisett what does that mean  
     you know nothing about him  Patriots win easy watch 
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    They are scrapping pregame.......
    You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going.
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    Pats still have huge motivation because going 4-0 without Brady really sticks it to Roger Goodell.  And I doubt Bill will let the team have a letdown against his ole buddy Rex.  
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    Love and respect your plays Scal. But I had to take the Pats -3 at home. First we need to realize Rex is not a good head coach. Is he all of a sudden going to coach harder or better today??? He's done! 
    GL with your other wages today. Keep those college picks coming. They're gold, Jerry. Gold!!!
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    Love and respect your plays Scal. But I had to take the Pats -3 at home. First we need to realize Rex is not a good head coach. Is he all of a sudden going to coach harder or better today??? He's done! 
    GL with your other wages today. Keep those college picks coming. They're gold, Jerry. Gold!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 12:34 PM ET #20

    Patriots team total under is worth a look. I doubt they put up a ton of points
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    BOL
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 12:44 PM ET #22

    Scal... Nice call on Maryland 
    KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK BROTHER!!!
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    Bills + points maybe..bills ml??? Cmon man
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    BOL with the play!
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    Quote Originally Posted by njsupreme1:

    Scal, been sitting here all morning pondering this game and then this post appears like a beacon in the night (wow that was an awful turn of phrase). This is a very gritty pick (even for you) but I admire your will. But I can not argue with your logic about Rexy and his job. I could not explain how (certainly not as well as you can) they will do it, but I feel the Bills will get this done today (somehow). I am riding with ya again! GL!


    One faithful follower (along with Macky and Rollo) who puts his trust in Rex in the right spot.

    Here's to us getting paid at 4:30 with a 60% interest rate for 3 and half hours of sitting on our as* watching others do our work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsupreme1:

    Scal, been sitting here all morning pondering this game and then this post appears like a beacon in the night (wow that was an awful turn of phrase). This is a very gritty pick (even for you) but I admire your will. But I can not argue with your logic about Rexy and his job. I could not explain how (certainly not as well as you can) they will do it, but I feel the Bills will get this done today (somehow). I am riding with ya again! GL!


    One faithful follower (along with Macky and Rollo) who puts his trust in Rex in the right spot.

    Here's to us getting paid at 4:30 with a 60% interest rate for 3 and half hours of sitting on our as* watching others do our work.

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