Anyone take a look at that game and have a lean either way? I know the line sitting at 2.5 as of now, but I can see it trickling to 3+ come kickoff.
I'm a long way from pulling the trigger and I have a lot of research to do to get everything straight in my head, but some quick basic thoughts.
- Panthers fixed their offensive woes late last season by getting back to more power running and not using Cam like he is Aaron Rodgers or Matt Stafford and the team responded by playing some very good football the last 6 weeks(off top of my head they finished 5-1)
- Seattle is dealing with some key injuries and Wilson now is known and teams can plan better on how to stop him.
- Carolina obviously has been a weak defensive club the last few years, but from what I saw with my eyes, that defense is flying around the field and making things happen on the defensive side of the ball. It might just be enough to cause some turnovers and let the offense go out, score 27, and pull off a small upset in front of the home crowd.
Any thoughts on this seattle-carolina game??
Other games that jump off the board at me are the Lions -3(I can see that being 6 by kickoff), the under in the bronco-Ravens opener, and Colts -7(fade of Oakland who is a disgrace and I can see that trickling up to -9.5 my game time)
Anyone take a look at that game and have a lean either way? I know the line sitting at 2.5 as of now, but I can see it trickling to 3+ come kickoff.
I'm a long way from pulling the trigger and I have a lot of research to do to get everything straight in my head, but some quick basic thoughts.
- Panthers fixed their offensive woes late last season by getting back to more power running and not using Cam like he is Aaron Rodgers or Matt Stafford and the team responded by playing some very good football the last 6 weeks(off top of my head they finished 5-1)
- Seattle is dealing with some key injuries and Wilson now is known and teams can plan better on how to stop him.
- Carolina obviously has been a weak defensive club the last few years, but from what I saw with my eyes, that defense is flying around the field and making things happen on the defensive side of the ball. It might just be enough to cause some turnovers and let the offense go out, score 27, and pull off a small upset in front of the home crowd.
Any thoughts on this seattle-carolina game??
Other games that jump off the board at me are the Lions -3(I can see that being 6 by kickoff), the under in the bronco-Ravens opener, and Colts -7(fade of Oakland who is a disgrace and I can see that trickling up to -9.5 my game time)
Wow, I rang off my post going off what the lines were Friday afternoon at work when I was shooting the $hit with some co-workers.
I see since then the panthers are already at 3. The Lions already at -4.5, and Indy jumped to -9.5. Obviously I'm happy with the Carolina movement, but Lions moving hurts(will still play them at 4.5), but Indy way up at -9.5 is dangerously close to a pass now for me. A TD I could handle, but as bad as I think Oakland is gonna be, 9.5 is a lot of chalk for a young QB and an average defense(at best).
Wow, I rang off my post going off what the lines were Friday afternoon at work when I was shooting the $hit with some co-workers.
I see since then the panthers are already at 3. The Lions already at -4.5, and Indy jumped to -9.5. Obviously I'm happy with the Carolina movement, but Lions moving hurts(will still play them at 4.5), but Indy way up at -9.5 is dangerously close to a pass now for me. A TD I could handle, but as bad as I think Oakland is gonna be, 9.5 is a lot of chalk for a young QB and an average defense(at best).
I expect the SEA/CAR line to continue moving in favor of the Panthers. Personally, I like the proven Seahawks team over the trying to make corrections Panther team.
I expect the SEA/CAR line to continue moving in favor of the Panthers. Personally, I like the proven Seahawks team over the trying to make corrections Panther team.
i have a Seattle ML -165 second leg parlay with other winning play. This is Week 1, you never know which team is which. But i'm betting on Seahawks will play very well this season.
i have a Seattle ML -165 second leg parlay with other winning play. This is Week 1, you never know which team is which. But i'm betting on Seahawks will play very well this season.
its week 1 anything could happen i wouldnt get to carried away.....if i were to play i would hammer seattle, you can throw out the cross country trip as another poster mentioned, if you can travel to the east coast on week 1 then you have some serious issues....i see seattle raping these poor boys, shocked the line isnt more like5 shurman will take stevie outta the game and the run game will be non existent with stewart likely to miss out and deangelo isnt anything i am to worried about.....take seattle if your going to play but again its week 1 anything could happen till we see what everones got....
its week 1 anything could happen i wouldnt get to carried away.....if i were to play i would hammer seattle, you can throw out the cross country trip as another poster mentioned, if you can travel to the east coast on week 1 then you have some serious issues....i see seattle raping these poor boys, shocked the line isnt more like5 shurman will take stevie outta the game and the run game will be non existent with stewart likely to miss out and deangelo isnt anything i am to worried about.....take seattle if your going to play but again its week 1 anything could happen till we see what everones got....
The only play here is Seattle however u wanna do it, Carolina O wont do much to anything vs Seattle, Seattle might have as much depth defensively then anyone else in the league, Caroline WR arent holding on to the ball and against Seattle u have to sustain drives they wont be capable of doing that, Cam still has to prove he wont make that one mistake and against and agressive D like Seattle that one mistake is much easier to make. Carolina D can be good but its gonna spend enough time on the field to be bad, The O will provide no help and theyll get worn out most games and by the end of the season itll be even worst...Give me Seattle 24 ( they have defensive touchdown ability ) to Carolina 10 ( cams first drive ugh be a TD and thats it for the game ) just my thoughts
The only play here is Seattle however u wanna do it, Carolina O wont do much to anything vs Seattle, Seattle might have as much depth defensively then anyone else in the league, Caroline WR arent holding on to the ball and against Seattle u have to sustain drives they wont be capable of doing that, Cam still has to prove he wont make that one mistake and against and agressive D like Seattle that one mistake is much easier to make. Carolina D can be good but its gonna spend enough time on the field to be bad, The O will provide no help and theyll get worn out most games and by the end of the season itll be even worst...Give me Seattle 24 ( they have defensive touchdown ability ) to Carolina 10 ( cams first drive ugh be a TD and thats it for the game ) just my thoughts
Carolina first team offense has done very little this pre season. Seattle offense will not have 4 turnovers to tds like they got vs the ravens. Do not be fooled the play here is Seattle money line imo.
Carolina first team offense has done very little this pre season. Seattle offense will not have 4 turnovers to tds like they got vs the ravens. Do not be fooled the play here is Seattle money line imo.
I agree with ariana09, I think betting against the Seahawks will be a losing prop all season. might want to look at their NFC @ 7-2 and Super Bowl 13-2 futures. also 6-5 NFC West and OVER 10 1/2 wins -120 (odds LVH Superbook, Las Vegas - formerly the Hilton)
I agree with ariana09, I think betting against the Seahawks will be a losing prop all season. might want to look at their NFC @ 7-2 and Super Bowl 13-2 futures. also 6-5 NFC West and OVER 10 1/2 wins -120 (odds LVH Superbook, Las Vegas - formerly the Hilton)
Seattle won 16-12 in carolina last year. +3 is a fair line. seattle is getting alot of preseason love but they are certainly not a lock to win this. carolina defense is solid and seattle will not score at will vs them. wouldnt be shrprised if the points come into play and seahawks win 17-16 or something like that
Seattle won 16-12 in carolina last year. +3 is a fair line. seattle is getting alot of preseason love but they are certainly not a lock to win this. carolina defense is solid and seattle will not score at will vs them. wouldnt be shrprised if the points come into play and seahawks win 17-16 or something like that
My thought is why would you want to bet one of the best teams in the NFC? If you're doing it simply because of their road record, that's not really enough to be pulling the trigger. They are better top to bottom than the Panthers and look ready for week 1.
My thought is why would you want to bet one of the best teams in the NFC? If you're doing it simply because of their road record, that's not really enough to be pulling the trigger. They are better top to bottom than the Panthers and look ready for week 1.
My thought is why would you want to bet one of the best teams in the NFC? If you're doing it simply because of their road record, that's not really enough to be pulling the trigger. They are better top to bottom than the Panthers and look ready for week 1.
you may be right about this one game, but i've learned over the years that if you think inside the box betting the pros, you end up with a reload special type of year. faded baltimore on and off all year last year and they won the SB. they cashed a bunch of tickets for me by not covering.
My thought is why would you want to bet one of the best teams in the NFC? If you're doing it simply because of their road record, that's not really enough to be pulling the trigger. They are better top to bottom than the Panthers and look ready for week 1.
you may be right about this one game, but i've learned over the years that if you think inside the box betting the pros, you end up with a reload special type of year. faded baltimore on and off all year last year and they won the SB. they cashed a bunch of tickets for me by not covering.
Great discussion in this thread with lots of good points so don't mind if I join the party fellas:
When I first glanced at the week 1 lines when they opened up awhile back, this game in particular jumped out to me as one of the most peculiar lines on the board. Along with the Bucs/Jets and KC/Jags. When thinking of the public perception on this game, everybody is so high on Seattle after what they did last year, me being one of them (I bet them to win it all during early October last year for a great payout and was pretty upset when they blew it against Atlanta since I think they would've taken it to the Niners in the NFC ship, and then the Ravens in the Bowl, but oh well), and so low on the Panthers, understandably because of their losing season. So I asked myself why is this line so low? Especially with the addition of the explosive Percy Harvin (at the time of this thought he wasn't hurt yet). Then I thought of how people forget about how strongly the Panthers finished the season last year which was mentioned above. They also forget how banged up their defense was. They are pretty much healthy for the first time in a long time and pretty damn good. I know Seattle's D is extremely dominant but people also forget that their D Coordinator has moved on to take the HC job in Jacksonville. That being said I could see them having a bit of a slow start before getting acquainted to their new DC's style. Yes, the Panthers have a lack of offensive weapons, but they have enough to put up points especially with Cam at QB. I fully expect Cam to have a bounce back year this season and become more of the dominant QB we saw during his rookie performance. I could see Cam taking this game completely into his hands and using his legs to get the job done to steal one at home and upset the Hawks. I am going to wait to place my wager to see if the line gets pushed a little higher before kickoff, I am hoping it will go all the way to +4. Right now I show -3 -120, that in my eyes looks like a trap considering I think the general public will pound Seattle and the moneyline feeling pretty good about their 'safe' bet.
The only thing that has me second guessing my initial analysis of this game is that Seattle looks as if they haven't skipped a beat during the preseason so far, and the Panthers offense is looking a bit shaky...I'm not looking too much into this being that it is in fact the preseason and I have learned not to read too much into what teams are putting out there. Afterall I am a Lions fan and saw them go 4-0 in preseason only to follow it up with 0-16 season, so there's that. On a positive note Carolina's D looks awesome being lead by their young stud Kuechly. This kid is the truth and I am a fan of his play big time. They also have their stud dlineman Charles Johnson back ready to wreak havoc and rip sht up.
I haven't made up my mind if I am going to pull the trigger yet on this one being that I see some better options on the board, but if I'm feeling lucky and I do play it, it will be Panthers and the points. That is just my insight, see you guys week 1
Great discussion in this thread with lots of good points so don't mind if I join the party fellas:
When I first glanced at the week 1 lines when they opened up awhile back, this game in particular jumped out to me as one of the most peculiar lines on the board. Along with the Bucs/Jets and KC/Jags. When thinking of the public perception on this game, everybody is so high on Seattle after what they did last year, me being one of them (I bet them to win it all during early October last year for a great payout and was pretty upset when they blew it against Atlanta since I think they would've taken it to the Niners in the NFC ship, and then the Ravens in the Bowl, but oh well), and so low on the Panthers, understandably because of their losing season. So I asked myself why is this line so low? Especially with the addition of the explosive Percy Harvin (at the time of this thought he wasn't hurt yet). Then I thought of how people forget about how strongly the Panthers finished the season last year which was mentioned above. They also forget how banged up their defense was. They are pretty much healthy for the first time in a long time and pretty damn good. I know Seattle's D is extremely dominant but people also forget that their D Coordinator has moved on to take the HC job in Jacksonville. That being said I could see them having a bit of a slow start before getting acquainted to their new DC's style. Yes, the Panthers have a lack of offensive weapons, but they have enough to put up points especially with Cam at QB. I fully expect Cam to have a bounce back year this season and become more of the dominant QB we saw during his rookie performance. I could see Cam taking this game completely into his hands and using his legs to get the job done to steal one at home and upset the Hawks. I am going to wait to place my wager to see if the line gets pushed a little higher before kickoff, I am hoping it will go all the way to +4. Right now I show -3 -120, that in my eyes looks like a trap considering I think the general public will pound Seattle and the moneyline feeling pretty good about their 'safe' bet.
The only thing that has me second guessing my initial analysis of this game is that Seattle looks as if they haven't skipped a beat during the preseason so far, and the Panthers offense is looking a bit shaky...I'm not looking too much into this being that it is in fact the preseason and I have learned not to read too much into what teams are putting out there. Afterall I am a Lions fan and saw them go 4-0 in preseason only to follow it up with 0-16 season, so there's that. On a positive note Carolina's D looks awesome being lead by their young stud Kuechly. This kid is the truth and I am a fan of his play big time. They also have their stud dlineman Charles Johnson back ready to wreak havoc and rip sht up.
I haven't made up my mind if I am going to pull the trigger yet on this one being that I see some better options on the board, but if I'm feeling lucky and I do play it, it will be Panthers and the points. That is just my insight, see you guys week 1
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