ACE pitcher tries to induce a ground ball to get a double-play after intentionally walking a slugger. His effort/skill works PERFECTLY as a routine ground ball is indeed struck directly to the shortstop - who then whiffs on the ball under his glove. Runners now safe at first and second. Who is responsible for that? The shortstop is charged with an error! No base hit; No mark against the pitcher, because it is deemed NOT his fault.
But football stat keeping hasn't caught up with baseball. Any and all interceptions - no matter how they occur - are inexplicably charged against the QB - making him appear incompetent even when they were not his fault.
To be sure there are plenty of times when an interception is the QB's fault:
-- errant pass. Overthrows; underthrows; throws behind WR; in each case where a defender is in better position to catch the ball than the WR! -- unhurried, he tries to force a ball into double coverage or through a maze of defenders in the flight path. -- hurried and about to be hit (or is being tackled around the legs) rather than throwing it away or eating it, the "hero" tries to throw into general direction of a covered receiver.
Some due to poor skill; some due to dumbass decisions...
But then there are the other interceptions, added to the QBs boxscore [unfairly] and we've all seen the following happen:
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ACE pitcher tries to induce a ground ball to get a double-play after intentionally walking a slugger. His effort/skill works PERFECTLY as a routine ground ball is indeed struck directly to the shortstop - who then whiffs on the ball under his glove. Runners now safe at first and second. Who is responsible for that? The shortstop is charged with an error! No base hit; No mark against the pitcher, because it is deemed NOT his fault.
But football stat keeping hasn't caught up with baseball. Any and all interceptions - no matter how they occur - are inexplicably charged against the QB - making him appear incompetent even when they were not his fault.
To be sure there are plenty of times when an interception is the QB's fault:
-- errant pass. Overthrows; underthrows; throws behind WR; in each case where a defender is in better position to catch the ball than the WR! -- unhurried, he tries to force a ball into double coverage or through a maze of defenders in the flight path. -- hurried and about to be hit (or is being tackled around the legs) rather than throwing it away or eating it, the "hero" tries to throw into general direction of a covered receiver.
Some due to poor skill; some due to dumbass decisions...
But then there are the other interceptions, added to the QBs boxscore [unfairly] and we've all seen the following happen:
- the all too common tipped ball! WR should catch it but fails, bounces off his hands/body and lands into a defender's hands. BAD beat! not QB error!
- deflected pass at the source by edge rusher who gets his fingers on the ball (or arm of QB) after OL FAILS protection and thus the ball never gets to the wide open receiver, instead diverts into a crowd of defenders. Both OL error and BAD beat! not QB error!
- WR is open but falls down; easy int for nearby defender. BAD beat! not QB error!
- WR is being held/interfered with on a timing rout but refs miss the call: easy int for nearby defender. BAD beat! not QB error!
- WR turns the wrong way or stops short on a timing rout; easy int for nearby defender. WR error! not QB error!
- defender makes an unbelievably freaky "highlight reel" grab that would fall incomplete 99.9% of the time. BAD beat! not QB error!
- QB is instructed by the coach to force a 50/50 ball to ace WR who not only fails to make the catch, which he gets his hands on, but fails to do his job and at least strip the ball away from the defender. WR and/or coaching error! not QB error!
- Just inside FG range, so QB cannot risk a sack, an all out blitz that overruns the OL in a heartbeat! Coaches failed to anticipate and playcall for it and QB forced into a hurried pass that falls into defender's hands. GREAT defense is not the QB's fault, so SHARED error at worst!
- "fruit of the poisonous tree." In short, if you run the ball on any given play then no risk of int. Team trails by one score with 50 seconds left in 4Q and gets to their own 38, but now 4th and inches. QB sneak and immediate timeout preserves their chances. But....FALSE START by OL!! Arrrgghh! Now it's 4th and 5+ and MUST pass. Another case where, if an int ensues on the coming 4th down pass - even if a dumbass passing error - that pass play NEVER should've happened in the first place, through no fault of the QB! Same can happen on 1st and goal from the 1.5 yd line, when coach directs a pass play rather than pound the ball. SHARED error at worst!
To assume the QB is responsible for the ints on the boxscore can be very misleading!
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- the all too common tipped ball! WR should catch it but fails, bounces off his hands/body and lands into a defender's hands. BAD beat! not QB error!
- deflected pass at the source by edge rusher who gets his fingers on the ball (or arm of QB) after OL FAILS protection and thus the ball never gets to the wide open receiver, instead diverts into a crowd of defenders. Both OL error and BAD beat! not QB error!
- WR is open but falls down; easy int for nearby defender. BAD beat! not QB error!
- WR is being held/interfered with on a timing rout but refs miss the call: easy int for nearby defender. BAD beat! not QB error!
- WR turns the wrong way or stops short on a timing rout; easy int for nearby defender. WR error! not QB error!
- defender makes an unbelievably freaky "highlight reel" grab that would fall incomplete 99.9% of the time. BAD beat! not QB error!
- QB is instructed by the coach to force a 50/50 ball to ace WR who not only fails to make the catch, which he gets his hands on, but fails to do his job and at least strip the ball away from the defender. WR and/or coaching error! not QB error!
- Just inside FG range, so QB cannot risk a sack, an all out blitz that overruns the OL in a heartbeat! Coaches failed to anticipate and playcall for it and QB forced into a hurried pass that falls into defender's hands. GREAT defense is not the QB's fault, so SHARED error at worst!
- "fruit of the poisonous tree." In short, if you run the ball on any given play then no risk of int. Team trails by one score with 50 seconds left in 4Q and gets to their own 38, but now 4th and inches. QB sneak and immediate timeout preserves their chances. But....FALSE START by OL!! Arrrgghh! Now it's 4th and 5+ and MUST pass. Another case where, if an int ensues on the coming 4th down pass - even if a dumbass passing error - that pass play NEVER should've happened in the first place, through no fault of the QB! Same can happen on 1st and goal from the 1.5 yd line, when coach directs a pass play rather than pound the ball. SHARED error at worst!
To assume the QB is responsible for the ints on the boxscore can be very misleading!
This is why the interception market can be very profitable. I’ve been working on a “system” for betting on QBs to throw an interception (or two) on a weekly basis and I’m up a few units on the year. Don’t get me wrong I’ve made my share of bad bets but I’ve also cashed some very profitable +money tickets.
Two weeks ago when the Titans played the Browns I bet Cam Ward to throw an interception at -110. At the time Cam hadn’t thrown an interception in 4 games. Now because of the reasons you stated above, it’s extremely unlikely for even the elite quarterbacks in the NFL to go 5 straight games without an interception. It’s just so difficult to do considering the fact that the interception doesn’t have to come on a bad pass from the quarterback. It happens multiple times a week where either a ball is tipped at the line or a wide receiver has a ball bounce off his hands up into the air for the taking.
And so the oddsmakers offered up a bet that in my opinion could not be refused. A rookie quarterback, playing an upper echelon defensive unit (with the league’s leading pass rusher), who has not thrown an interception in 4 games. All for the bargain price of $1.10.
Pay attention to this market. There is money to be made.
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This is why the interception market can be very profitable. I’ve been working on a “system” for betting on QBs to throw an interception (or two) on a weekly basis and I’m up a few units on the year. Don’t get me wrong I’ve made my share of bad bets but I’ve also cashed some very profitable +money tickets.
Two weeks ago when the Titans played the Browns I bet Cam Ward to throw an interception at -110. At the time Cam hadn’t thrown an interception in 4 games. Now because of the reasons you stated above, it’s extremely unlikely for even the elite quarterbacks in the NFL to go 5 straight games without an interception. It’s just so difficult to do considering the fact that the interception doesn’t have to come on a bad pass from the quarterback. It happens multiple times a week where either a ball is tipped at the line or a wide receiver has a ball bounce off his hands up into the air for the taking.
And so the oddsmakers offered up a bet that in my opinion could not be refused. A rookie quarterback, playing an upper echelon defensive unit (with the league’s leading pass rusher), who has not thrown an interception in 4 games. All for the bargain price of $1.10.
Pay attention to this market. There is money to be made.
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Any and all interceptions - no matter how they occur - are inexplicably charged against the QB - making him appear incompetent even when they were not his fault.
But then there are the other interceptions, added to the QBs boxscore [unfairly] and we've all seen the following happen:
To assume the QB is responsible for the ints on the boxscore 
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